Madden 09: Quarterback Ratings

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Dennis Dixon with a 60 speed? Anderson and Young both 88 overall? Come on now...

Good shit shanker. I heard this shit yesterday from my boy Tim that is there.

How are they gonna give Josh Johnson worse awareness then some undrafted QBs? How is Vince Young a 88 overall? How are they going to give Tarvaris Jackson 56 awareness but give Young 70? Makes no sense....

Stupid makes you not want to buy the game brohm is better than rodgers wow and young overrated

How is romo speed more than mcnabb? yeah ok

*falcons fan rant mode on*
Redman a 76 is BS he was the best QB we had all season atleast give him a 80
*Falcons fan rant mode off*
Matt Ryan 83 ovr and with arm an arm
lol rex
Tarvaris Jackson awareness should be higher than 56 atleast 70
I had a feeling Garrard was going to get screwed 76 awareness..please

Matt Ryan rated higher than Russell? When did Tom Brady get a stronger arm than Russell? ****ing Joke.

These look pretty decent.vince young an 88, big ben 95?, both over-rated. other than that it actually looks about right.

And john david booty the 5th or 6th round pick or whatever he ways is rated the same as 2nd round chad henne. that one is WAY off.

Matt Ryan has the same rating as Jason Campbell and Aaron Rodgers has a 83 too!!! EA is full of it he has more P.T. than both Ryan & Rodgers combined!!!

I agree with fort. Dennis Dixon with only 60 speed? Did EA even watch any of his game footage, he is by far a lot faster than a mere 60. I guarantee that Dixon can out run any of the other QB's on this list (with the exception of young and jackson). I also believe that Erik Ainge is very overrated. IMHO he is a decent quarter back at best; atleast make him and Brink closer in ability.

"These look pretty decent.vince young an 88, big ben 95?, both over-rated."

I'm not gonna speak for Vince, but Big Ben overrated?

Passer Rating of 104.1 through week 17 of the NFL, 32/11 TD/INT ratio, and 65.3% accuracy. He's fully deserved of the ratings he got, and that was a 95. The REAL overrated player was Carson Palmer:

Same stats: 86.7 passer rating, 26/20 TD/INT ratio and 64.9% completion. Now those aren't bad stats but how does that make him better than Ben?

And what's with Dennis Dixon getting shafted? I was so excited as a Stealers fan that I was gonna use him for trick plays like fake FG's etc? And he gets a 60 speed rating??? That's slower than Roethlisburger last year (68)! Wtf?? Hell even Matt Ryan's faster than him

I think the Jets want K.Clemens to start. His 92 thp and 83 acc and 66 spd is more the Average for the QBs in Madden. I doubt Chad starts this year. With a better offensive line and more targets (i.e Keller,Franks at TE, Healthy Coles) I see K.Clemens stretching the field. In last weeks OTAs, Clemens clearly outshined Chad, throwing 40 yard completions to Coles and Clowney. Erik Ainge, I thought would get decent rookie numbers and he did. He was a solid QB at Tenn, just wasn't Manning. I could see using Erik Ainge over Chad too.

Yeah... don't knock Big Ben, he played great last season. Youngest QB of all time to win a super bowl, and he didn't even have an o-line last year protecting his ass.

Wait Wait WAIT...how the F*%$ does TOM F&CK!NG BRADY have more throwing power than Brett Favre? He def. deserves a 100 THP rating...And how many times have we seen Brett Favre keep a play alive by spinning away from 709823 defenders and flipping the ball to some running back that nobody knew was there? That in itself justifies AT LEAST a 99 AWR rating. I don't know how you can put a guy on the cover and then shaft him like that...hes the greatest quarterback ever and hes the lowest-ranked legend. Plus, how is REXXX not the lowest-ranked starter in the game? Freaking BS.

And if anyone wants to dispute the fact that Brett Favre is the greatest qb ever...chew on this: He holds every single relevant qb record. He won a super bowl (XXXI). Hes a three time (back-to-back-to-back, the ONLY person to do that) NFL MVP. Don't forget about the ironman streak. And, to top it all off, Since the day he took over for Don Majkowski in 1992, no team in the NFL has had more wins than the Green Bay Packers (160).

With as much money as EA throughs around, you think there'd be a few more big names. But wait, it's EA--Suprise, they did the minimum

"Wait Wait WAIT...how the F*%$ does TOM F&CK!NG BRADY have more throwing power than Brett Favre?"

I concur, the most overated football franchise hops on board with football's most overrated player. And it is crap, Brady only gets long completions because his receivers own at yards-after-the-catch.

Ok why is aaron rodgers so slow he has the same 40 time as tarvaris jackson

P.S. do your research EA, Huard isn't KC's starter

How is Brees with the same throwing power as Romo. Did Romo have surgery or something. For all the yards and deep passes completed he has only 90 thp get real. One of the best numbers behind Brady last year with deep passes to TO and a 90 thp with Brady becoming a Cannon..........bull$hit

Joe Montana a 95 thp and he was known for not being able to throw the ball more than 30 yards. What is EA passing around in the office? When is Backbreaker do out? Russell on his knees threw the ball 70 yards and he's not the strongest arm......WOW

Oh boy...there at it again

first I'd just like to say that although I believe vince young is the fastest I don't think it's worth a 90!

alright what else...

edwards is underatted, anderson is underatted, huard isn't the starter, i don't think romo is faster than garrad although I will say they both should be ranked faster, redman isn't the starter, smith is overrated, mannings rating seems to have shot up after winning a superbowl...idk I think it's akward, tom brady is waaay overrated...then again it doesn't matter when you have to best wide reciever to throw to, jason campbell is waaay underrated, roethlisberger is better than hasselbeck..hmmm, and schaub is underrated.

are these ratings based on how good the quaterback actually is, or how good a quaterbacks wide-recievers are? like if it were based on how good a quaterback is then garrad and hasselbeck and mcnabb are in the right place....but if it's based on how good the wr core is then clearly peyton manning, brady, palmer, and roethlisberger are overated.

Oh sorry I forgot to mention this, but how did madden get the rights to joe montana's name? I thought he was an all-pro boy

oh and brett farve is underatted............WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY underated

Vince young UNDERRATED. . . everyone expects great things form great players. n when they play average its not good enough. everone forgets tennessee whent to the playoffs. 24 other teams couldnt do that.

All pro is dead or will be after this year.

Oops 22

Tom brady at 99? i wonder if he comes with a special bonus power where he can see what plays the opposite team is running. or maybe when you start playing as the patriots you can video-tape the other teams in dynasty mode.

I don't understand why Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are rated higher than Brett Favre. I mean they are the best of the current players but Favre is the better QB ... GIVE HIM THE 99 TOO! Also half of these QB's are overrated on this game ... get it right EA!

How is jon kitna leading the NFL for interceptions an 89 Accuracy

Oh!!! and show the runningbacks soon.

"Vince young UNDERRATED. . . everyone expects great things form great players. n when they play average its not good enough. everone forgets tennessee whent to the playoffs. 24 other teams couldnt do that."

not even sure how to respond to that. vince young hasnt even come close to proving he is a good nfl quarterback. sure the titans made the playoffs, they could have done alot more with a better quarterback.

Well where do i begin.... well first of all, brett favre should be the best qb on the all time greats thinger dinger, second, who the fuck is chris redman, it either should be byron leftwich or joey harrington for starter, or even matt ryan... and brodie croyel or w/e should be the starter for KC as well.... but any ways alot of this $HIT is pretty F'd up, and once i get the game when it comes out, im goin to have to change some friggen ratings cuz these suck major balls

Oh yeah i wonder how much they F up the running backs and other positions as well

Everyone that left a comment before me... i agree on everything you guys said

Titan951, Vince Young didnt lead the Titans to the playoffs, their D did. Lol at Youngs 9 to 17 TD to INT ratio. He sure is underrated...

Tony romo speed sucks

EA! u mutherfuckers. i have about ten things to say. first of all why the fuck does tom brady have the strongest arm in the game. i mean u gave it to him over brett favre( he should have the strongest of anyone) peyton manning, carson palmer, dononvan mcnabb, jaMarcus russel, ben roethlisberger, eli manning, and jason campbell. now that is fucking rediculous. second of all, why the fuck are u going to have the greatest qb of all time on the cover and give him the most fucked up rating on the game.i just don't understand how people like joe montana and y.a. tittle have a higher overall than brett. i mean what the fuck where u all doing this past football season? dosing off? these have got to be by far the most fucked up ratings u have ever givin on a madden football game. i don't even want to see the other positions ratings.

How in the sam hell did Eli get a 93? Thats a disgrace.

LOL Brady More Arm than Russell

Why the hell isn't dan marino on the list of nfl greats

Uhhh.. Rodgers was under the wing of the best QB ever and only an 83? only weakness i see in his game is he's injury prone.. watch him go from 83 to 88-92 by mid/end season if he stays healthy.. with the receiving core he's got i see another nfc championship team... someone plz tell me i'm wrong

Wat Happen with troy Aikman his a NFL Greats

Uhhh.. Rodgers was under the wing of the best QB ever and only an 83? only weakness i see in his game is he's injury prone.. watch him go from 83 to 88-92 by mid/end season if he stays healthy.. with the receiving core he's got i see another nfc championship team... someone plz tell me i'm wrong

Where's Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw or John Elway in the "NFL Greats"? The NFL and AFL weren't even unified when Sammy Baugh played!

How does the immonile Matt Flynn have 15 more speed than Dixon. WTF is that about???????????????

OK...I have a few comments about this one! First of all, WHY the hell is Roger Staubach not on the list of all time greats!?!?!? He was arguably one of the best QBs of his era. Second...why is Tom Brady's throwing power higher than Jamarcus Russell's? I don't think I've ever seen Brady throw 80 yards from his knees! Third...Brett Favre's awareness should be higher. I think the main reason it is as low as it is relates to his "other record" for most interceptions ever. I don't think it's fair though, because he most likely threw more passes than anyone else and he knew what he was doing when he threw the ball...he was just doing everythign he could to win. Favre saw the field better than any QB today except maybe Peyton Manning.

Still excited as hell to play the game...can't wait to see some of the new features!!

Tom Brady has a stronger arm than Brett Favre and JaMarcus Russell. LOL

100/99/99 for Brady in Awareness/THP/THA?

Lol what is he a created player?


I'm glad they didn't snub Josh Johnson on speed that much, but his awareness is laughable. 42? I know he played D-1AA but the guy played in a WCO.


Yet somehow Matt Ryan has more awareness than Jay Cutler, Vince Young, etc. The same Matt Ryan that almost led the nation in INTs has this awesome awareness and accuracy LOL.

Uhhhhh, wheres Elway on the all time greats?

Cut the crap Madden,Favre's power rankings are just a damn joke! I mean the godamn old bastard took the Packers to the championship game. Romo's speed 78? cmon should be at least 84. That "all time great" list is the most awful list I've ever seen,Montana throw power 95? BS. Marino? Elway? Aikman? Young? P Manning & Brady should be 98 or 97, neither of those guys can run and NO ONE has 100 awareness thats more BS. Hopefully Madden 09 will update rosters as well as some of these BS power rankings.

Wow its nice to see anti-Cowboyism is alive and well. If either Aikman or Staubach was on the all-time greats I could understand not having the other, BUT NEITHER????? WTF!!!!

Also, If JaMarcus Russell is an 82 then Trent Edwards should be 85... Vince Young should not have an overall rating of more than 85 until he throws more touchdowns than interceptions!

I am pleased with the rating of Tony Romo.

They can only guess. But you cant help but feel they played to favorites. Where is JOHN ELWAY?

" i wonder if he comes with a special bonus power where he can see what plays the opposite team is running. or maybe when you start playing as the patriots you can video-tape the other teams in dynasty mode"
ROFL that is fuckin classic man!

By far; these are the most biased rating ever.

the way this is going; R. Moss will have 100 spd; ctch; awr; btkl; & jmp. which is all wrong.

Brady and his dink and dunk passes to welker who happened to break for 25+ is what makes them look long. 20-30yd passes to moss for 50yd td's are not cannon arms. Brady is not known for his strong arm. its his accuracy and awareness. the EA Scouts are fuckin up this year...badly.

Also; for a man who only threw 3 interceptions all season; to have a less than 80 awareness rating is just re-damned-diculous.

I agree with brady's THP. 99? His arm isn't that strong, at most a 94-95. Favre should have a better arm. do yourselves a favor. when you get the game, just adjust the attributes to where they should be. that's what i do.

How is Ainge better than Woodson

Lmao@masterbater,Farve was not the only QB to go(backto-backto-back).Before you start chatting BS.Know your facts!!

How come in Pasta's pictures of the Depth Charts, Chris Redman is an 82 overall, but here it says hes a 76? 82 is much more accurate on his rating though. He's gunna be a very good backup for a team to have for the rest of his career and 82 overall makes that a little more easier.

How is Chad Henne ranked 77 and Brian Brohm ranked 80. They were picked back to back in the draft.

WTF!??????!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????? ELI FUCKIN MANNING HAS A 93 OVERALL??? HAS EA FORGOTTEN HIS LEAGUE HIGH 19 INTERCEPTIONS???? AND WHY ISNT FAVRE'S THP 101???
EA jerked alot of qb's stats...like mcnabb...he was out for like half of the season but still has a 92? and the last time i checked vince young threw like 9 touchdowns and like 16 picks....i think....and he has the same overall as derek anderson?? bull shit

"Tom brady at 99? i wonder if he comes with a special bonus power where he can see what plays the opposite team is running. or maybe when you start playing as the patriots you can video-tape the other teams in dynasty mode."


wow....im sure u have memory problems because they only video taped 6 games from 2000-2002 season.....

"Brady and his dink and dunk passes to welker who happened to break for 25+ is what makes them look long. 20-30yd passes to moss for 50yd td's are not cannon arms. Brady is not known for his strong arm. its his accuracy and awareness. the EA Scouts are fuckin up this year...badly."




what the hell are u talkin about?? what happened to all those 50 yrd bombs brady threw to moss and stallworth?? he threw like 2 bombs in every game....except for the colts game

Eli Manning rated higher than Garrad is BULLSHIT!!!! Garrad had only 5 picks to Eli's 1900. Dixon 60 speed? That's some SHIT. NFL Greats QB list is a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is all for now.

Yngtwl3

randy moss should have 100 jm..jk lol

but seriously these stats are fuc*kd up
plaxico all the way biotch

Grossmans thracc should be -999

Eli.... only 888 awareness

Posted by: SpawnFX on June 1, 2008, 10:04 am
Yngtwl3

"randy moss should have 100 jm..jk lol

but seriously these stats are fuc*kd up
plaxico all the way biotch"

Dude, what the heck are you talking about? This is a list of QB's not WR's!

"what the hell are u talkin about?? what happened to all those 50 yrd bombs brady threw to moss and stallworth?? he threw like 2 bombs in every game....except for the colts game"

Giving him 99 THP is like saying he throws 80 yard bombs. Basically saying that Brady has the strongest arm in NFL history.

That is a joke! He doesn't even have the strongest arm in the league right now.

Yeah I'm pretty sure Tom Brady has a better arm than Brett Favre in his prime.

Retarded.

Brett Favre is way better than a 97. he is a 99.

Seriously john elway isnt on the alltime greats? what a joke

I agree with fort. Dennis Dixon with 60 speed is horrible. Dixon was one of if not the fastest quarterbacks in college football. Go lions!!!!!!!!!!!!

How in the world is tom brady's arm strength at 99!
there is no way he can throw harder than jamarcus russle. russle can throw 50 yards from his knees! brady can barely get that standing. looks like another madden game slanted twords the patriots. oh and yeah how the crap is romo faster than mcnabb

Haha look at Jamarcus Russel's Awareness....

LMAO@tvaughn36
Learn how to read fool. He clearly stated Favre is the only player with 3 consecutive MVPs ever in the history of the NFL. So before YOU start chatting BS, know your damn facts, idiot!

Your saying that Joe Montana has the arm strength of McNabb...Brady has the strongest arm...even stronger than Favre and can even out throw Peyton Manning? I see a flaw here. Montana should have an arm strength of no more than 90...speed of 75 in his prime. You need more stats to add to the game to compare qbs. For instance agility in the pocket. A flat footed Jim Kelly compared to Farve who was the escape artist. Manning has a stronger arm then Brady come on...

To p00per: Redman is the starter for ATL because he was the best QB we had last year. Joey is not better than him and Byron was cut. Do a little research before you go shooting off at the mouth about stuff you didn't research.

As always Eli Manning is over rated.

I am Giants fan and Eli's accuracy is not a 94. I would say an 89. I believe his awareness is higher than 88.

Where's Johnny Unitas in the greats? I guess the 12 game season QBs can't be great. Overall these numbers are rediculous. Awareness is subjective but things like speed, throw power, and accuracy can all be "semi" quantitatively measured. It doesn't look like EA even tried to keep these stats fair and balanced.

Don't you guys realize that the CEO of EA is Peter Moore who is a self proclamed Cheatriots cock sucker. That is why Brady has bionic ratings.

Good speed does not a great QB make, so why is Vince Young an 88? I think EA's in love with the dude ( he made the cover of '08 ahead of Payton Manning and LT). I also don't quite see how any QB can have a perfect awareness. C'mon now, how can Payton Manning have perfect awareness when he throws 6 picks in one game last season. Same goes for anybody--one pick and your not perfect anymore. And more thing about this somewhat retarded list; why is John Elway not an NFL GREAT?!!! he's as good or better than anyone else on that list! Especially Brette Favre!

Wow, it's amazing how V.Young had a terrible season, but he's one point better than his 08' rating lol. Derek Anderson is underrated. Rex is overrated. If T.Brady strength is a 99, than J.Russell's should be 100 lol. Ppl were not even talking about M.Ryan like they did J. Russell last year, but he's 1 point better than him already. David Garrard rating surprised the hell outta me, but he's not really overrated. Did I already talk about VINCE YOUNG'S RATING!!!!!

Certainly seems like there are some "Greats" missing.

Homers, please, enough. My god. First of all, bradys arm is fine, he was bombing it all over the field last year and led all Qb's on passes over 40 yards in the air, so enough about that. Now its a videogame, brady had the best season of any Qb basically ever last year so you have to make him a higher rating, thats how it works, so stop crying about this stuff. Also throwing power is not based on how far you can throw the ball, its how quick the ball gets there even on the short routes, firing it in for example.

Pretty messed up to have the guy on the cover of the box with the lowest rating of the NFL Greats.

Tom Brady CAN NOT, WILL NOT, EVER EVER EVER, throw as hard as Brett Favre. 99 TP for him is ridiculous.There are around five guys who throw harder than freakin' Tom Brady. Is Belicheck so obsessed with winning he has to bribe EA to stack Brady? lol just kidding pats fans

Hey Spongbob, I agree with you and I'm NOT joking when I say that. Long Live the Chiefs!

Let me just say this. Accurate or not, with that speed and those numbers Baugh and Tarkenton are a handfull.

Okay...first of all....who is in charge of these rating systems? Eli's rating goes way up even though this guy's INT's go up EVERY year...and he has a higher awareness than Mcnabb! Speaking of which, why is Mcnabb slower than Romo? The only QB you guys have rated correctly is Delhomme! Come on now...EA dropped every ball imagineable here...I'm scared to see the RBs...ugh!

I'm a Giants fan forever...but come on...Eli is WAY over-rated...

Tarvaris is worse then Brian Brohm? How is his awareness worse then most rookies? And he had around a 66% completion over the last 8 games of the year how can he have a 78 accuracy? His completion percentage was on of the best in the NFL the last 8 weeks when he hit his groove. He is definately not the second worst starter in the league. We'll just have to wait for him to prove it this year.

"Uhhh.. Rodgers was under the wing of the best QB ever and only an 83? only weakness i see in his game is he's injury prone.. watch him go from 83 to 88-92 by mid/end season if he stays healthy.. with the receiving core he's got i see another nfc championship team... someone plz tell me i'm wrong"

your wrong, no way the packers are even making the playoffs. Favre was the heart and sould of the packers and Rodgers isn't going to come close to being able to replace him. Think about why Ryan Grant was a good running back, because teams spread out their linebackers in hopes of stopping favre, didn't blitz as much because favre would just beat them, and basically didn't even worry about Grant. With Favre gone teams are going to blitz more and keep their linebackers in, Grant isn't going to have nearly as good of a year, and of course the passing game is going to suffer. Running back isn't a position where you can be a nobody for 5 years and then all of a sudden be great, Grant had a one-year wonder type of thing with favre, it won't be repeated.

Why is dennis dixon speed soo low..it should be aleast in the 80's...J Russell's throw power should be 100..Tom Brady's Accuracy should be 100..

Tom Brady? Are you f**king kidding me? No quarterback in today's game should be rated at 99 ovr. none. Before this season, Tom Brady HAD NEVER EVEN BROKEN 100 ON THE QUARTERBACK RATING! He most certainly doesn't have a 99 in arm strength, any quarterback in the nfl can complete a 50 yard pass in the air, but not every quarterback in the nfl has receivers like Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and Dante Stallworth to throw them to.

Brett Favre got screwed in the throwing power, but the other stats are accurate. He was great, but look at the int's. Not horrible considering the number of pass attempts he had, but if you do the math... career, 30 attempts per INT, vs. Peyton Manning with 35 attempts per INT, and Brady with over 40 attempts per INT. It's not exactly a statistic you find on ESPN, but i find it extremely telling in the accuracy and overall efficiency of a quarterback. Brett Favre did not once, in his entire career break 100 on his QB Rating (although in 95 he came DAMN close). Peyton Manning on the other hand, has had 3 consecutive seasons over 100 until the 07-08 season, and if you remove the San Diego game where he threw 6 picks, it's 4 straight.

On the whole, these are really off stats. Nothing you wouldn't expect from EA. I'm thoroughly unimpressed with the madden franchise and i sincerely hope the nfl does not renew the contract past the '09 season. Competition breeds better gaming.

Again, It's time for:

I CAN RATE BETTER THAN MADDEN MAKERS!-ROOKIES

1. I don't know how fast Brian Brohm, Matt Flynn, Joe Flacco, Andre Woodson, and Colt Brennan is, but i do know they are slower than Dennis Dixon.

2. Look at Chad Henne's arm. He has an arm of McNabb, Roethlisberger, and Jay Cutler. 95, simply amazed at EA game maker's bluffing. I know he has strong arm, but 95 is unfitting for him.

3. Joe Flacco? 66 Speed? Faster than Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady? He was known as classic dropback passer, not very mobile, cannon arm.

Broncovault...
any jack@$$ can say that their fav. qb is better than anyone else. You just proved yourself to be just another jabroni because you cant even support the fact that elway is better than brett favre with ANY stats. Elway wasn't even the guy who won the super bowl for his team. T.D. is the reason that Elgay won ANY titles at all. Plus, there wasn't a year during his career that you could honestly say that Elgay was the best player in the league.

plus, im LMFAO @ tvvaughn...learn how to read you idiot.

lastly, midgar8784...you cannot possibly say that tom brady would get the ball to welker crossing over the middle faster than brett favre would. plain and simple.

Wooooo, master debater, settle down on the elway hating. I'm a vikings fan so i'm not biased on this but elway is definately one of the best qb's of all time. TD didn't win the super bowl for them, he had a part, but without elway they wouldn't have won. He was great in the clinch and definately has better accuracy then favre, don't know about the other stats but i do know on that one. Elway was one of the greatest comeback quarterbacks of all time.

In case everyone is wondering why elway, unitas, staubach, steve young, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Archie Manning, Randall Cunningham, and many more are not in the NFL greats list, it's because ALL PRO 2K8 Still has the rights to them...why? Because Madden freaking sucks, and there monopoly on the football industry needed to be dampered in someway.

Madden bases there rankings on previous years stats like quaterback ranking, yards, TDs, ints....the fact is EA doesn't actually care or watch the games to see who's the best, they just want there product on the market so they can get your money quicker.

Sure they add new features, but the rest of the game is recycled like play book and stuff...

idk I just wish we could get another 2K game.

Hey MasterDebater, your just pissed off that "Elgay" beat your your Brett Favre in the super-bowl. You also proved that your no "master" debater by calling me out on not bringing up any stats while you fail to yourself. Since your so interested in stats here's one: Elway:2 Championships, Favre:1. Thats the only stat that I care about in the end anyway.

First off Brady does not deserve those kind of
stats, I dont care how good he did. and whats with
Russel only getting 58 awareness and Dixon
deserves at least 80 speed

One word: backbreaker

Broncovault...what? you can't remember? i hit you with PLENTY of stats in my earlier post...jack@$$. Like i said, elgay didn't win the superbowls for his team, TD did. How many MVP's did Elgay win? What about td passes? how about consecutive starts? wait, elgay HAD to have more wins than favre, right? nope. Nope. NOPE. Sure, elway was one of the best qbs ever, but Favre IS the greatest qb of all time. (and in case youre a freaking idiot like this broncovault guy, just look at my previous post [on May 31st] to see some stats to back up my claim)

MasterDebater,
Dude...Chill out man,
The fact that Elway didn't win the SB's for his team is not a stat but a matter of opinion. He did win the SB mvp in 1998( 1997 season ). Sure TD won it also in '99. You are also apparently mistaking my anger at John Elway not being on the list as me hating Brett Favre. I think Brett Favre is a great QB and I hate to see him retire. He does also have the greater stats. But you do have to take into consideration that he did only win one SB and only played in two. John Elway was hindered by a lack of talented teammates for a majority of his career and also had a tendency to put too much into his throws making them hard to catch. Brett Favre throws a lot of picks ( holds the record more most ever). Neither is perfect and neither is the greatest of all time. I don't think it cool for you to call me a Jackass and a "freaking idoit" just because I don't agree with across the board.

WTF? rex grossman is not 99 overall, now i know ea is fuckin with us.

ALSO, explain to me what awr has to do with qbs? dont you control them, so wtf is awr used for?

GG. Tom Brady has the Biggest arm of all time. He is the greatest of all time!!?

Yeah right. my mum can throw further than him.

How's chad penny awr 78, he's the smartest qb in the game, if you are gonna make his arm weak, how is awr sub 80, he's a Rhoades Scholar, one of the smartest people in our country, whats with the 78 awr, and about his arm strentgh, he didn't get hurt last year on his arm, and the jets had a terrible line, why should Chad take a ratings hit and no one else did? Ea is strange with the numbers sometimes.

Tom Brady is definetly not better than any quarterback who ever played football

Big ben should be higher than carson palmer ony 5-11 with 2 good wr ben has done more with less

Why isnt shan hill there for the 49ers

D*** where is Dan Marino on the NFL Greats list. Brett broke his records and EA Sports forgot all about him. EA needs some NFL help on these ratings because some of these ratings are totally crazy.

Trent Edwards with only a 79 overall? JP Losman better have a lower rating than a 79

HOW is Jay Cutler 86???, and Rivers 90, if rivers is 90 than Jay should be 95
Jay had a better QB rating than rivers
there were 7 attempts seperating the 2
and Jay had 20 completions more than Rivers
Jay had 300+ yards more, but instead He gets Shafted because The Broncos didnt make it to the playoffs.
Screw EA

Tom Brady should realisticly have 99-100 in awareness and accuracy, but should be no higher than 93, if that in throwing power. Russell having only 72 speed, only 58 awareness and only 98 power is ridiculous, he should have 75-78 speed, at least 66-74 awareness and at least 100 power. He has the strongest arm in the history of football. They should actually give him 105-110 if they want an accurate representation of his power. I'm a USC fan, but Palmers ratings are inflated. His decision making needs a little work and an 85-87 in awareness would reflect that. Romo is grossly inflated and is not even close to being that athletic or that accurate. He has great weapons and a good OL. Let them do the work. Make them great and he will benifit on the game from that, but it's ridiculous to give each individual player credit for team success. It creates an unrealistic disperity in the strength of each team. Make the players as good as they actually are and the teams as a whole will be accurately represented by extension.

How i sdennis dixon so slow?

Eli manning is not worth a 93. just because he won a superbowl with a really lucky pass and an even luckier catch, he will still make the mistakes he's made every season

How is Roethlisberger the 12th most accurate qb on here...he went to pro bowl and finished 2nd in qb rtng not to mention he threw 2 perfect games of 158.3 last yr..he should have at least THA of 94..his 32tds to 11 ints were better than brees,both mannings,romo,pennington,hasselbeck, bulger and leinart..

Where th heck is Dan Marino on the All- Time Great list! He has most of the records!

I just hope EA fixed the control passing this year, it would be nice 2 throw 2 a spot on the field, or lead a reciever without breaking your controler.

Apparently dennis dixon is slower then drew brees.. wow. makes sense

These are decent ratings

Brett Favre..... 98 throw power? are u fucking serious? and tom brady (name not important enough to capitilize) 99 throw power? i dont see tom brady throwing 88 yard td's off her back foot

D Mcnabb 92....he hasn't played in 92 years!!!!lol

Alright im an admitted Patriot hater. But can u seriously say the only reason that brady is good is because he knows the play. Because sorry to tell you, he still has to throw the ball on the money. If you gave the bottom 15 quarterbacks the game tapes do u think they would put up those numbers? Because if you do your stupid.

Ok time to do my responses to the dumbshyt and smart shyt i see ppl put on here....
First and foremost i agree with everybody on here when i say that ea is fucking stupid for putting dennis dixons speed on 60 when he was the one of the best scrambling QB's (second only to pat white) in all of college football last yr so i had to jus get that out the way...now lets see...ppl said tony romo is overrated...hmmm lemme see second best offense in a highly competitive nfc last yr (though i admit he did slack the last like 2-3 games of the season) but still overall a great season...someone on here said he only did that good cuz he has weapons like T.O and Witten and a great o line....ok lets see isnt that wat makes all great quarterbacks great??? peyton manning...amazing OL..marvin harrison and reggie wayne with dallas clark = hall of fame QB...tom brady...great OL all last yr(except superbowl)Randy moss,wes welker,ben watson,kevin faulk = hall of fame QB...Tony Romo...Outstanding OL...TO,Witten,Crayton,glenn = 94 rating makes perfect sense...lets see i'll make this one short...anybody who said big ben and Garrad are overated are complete morons...1st and second best QB ratings in the league and led teams to post season...(not to mention that big ben has been a star since his rookie yr and winning a superbowl in only his second yr) Big Ben a 95 and Garrad a 92...makes perfect sense to me...vince young is not an 88 period!!...anyone who said that hes overated is absolutely right....he fuckin blows and its because of the titans defense that they even made the post season last yr...and i think that drew brees and carson palmer should switch ratings...carson palmer is still one of the top QB's in the league but two mediorcre yrs at best and other QB's rising into stars changes him from wat used to be the 3rd best QB in the game to about the 7th or 8th...drew brees however despite the team having a disappointing ( but not surprising) yr...drew brees and marquees colston are not to blame as they already in their short time as saints players broke recieving and passing records in saints history...and drew brees having 2 consecutive 4000+ passing yrd seasons easily make him the 3rd or 4th best QB in the league

O yea b4 i forget...lets get on mr TOM BRADY...giving tom brady better(and not equal) ratings then peyton manning and making all his qb stats on a 99 is the equivelant of if the nba had gave doc rivers the coach of the yr award...u take a QB that already proved himself to be the second best QB in the league and already placed himself as one of the best in history and give him a future hall of fame WR in randy moss...the best slot reciever in the league in wes welker( though i admit that wes welker wasnt shyt except a good return man until he got to the patriots) a very good reciever in donte stallworth...plus on the defensive end add a pro bowl line backer in adalius thomas to a defense that already had its fair share of pro-bowlers... and not to mention also one of the best Offensive lines (if not the best)in the game...and in the middle of all that... they didnt have any significant loses off their team in the middle of aquiring all of these players...wtf did u expect to happen...am i the only person in the world who realizes the videogame cheat teams that all of boston put together last yr...red sox(manny,big papi,youkilis, not to mention one of the most devastating starting pitching in baseball)...celtics (c'mon man...KG,ray allen and paul pierce on the same team??? straight videogame trade overide)....and the patriots....it was just a media gimmick to make all the boston teams win championships at the same time but the giants screwed them out of that plan...im not a boston or a patriots hater but i am a realist...tom brady does deserve to have a 99 rating like always but for his awareness to be on 100 and throwing power and accuracy to be on 99's is jus kinda OD...not that it should be that far off but his strength should have been on like a 95 either that or they shoulda jus gave peyton manning the same ratings

Please tell me how the the hell josh mcClown is faster than TOny Romo

Wow SF A.Smith 89 T/p I haven't seen a 20 yard pass all year for himm lol and no way NE T.Brady is a 99 T/P over OAK J.ROCK 98 T/P ??? did he not throw off of 1 knee 60 yards I know off on 2 feet he'll throw it 80 yards or so PLS EA fix it LOL DENNIS DIXON 60 speed

The smart Qb thing was pretty dumb to me becuase it made a lot of Qb's seem like they were Peyton Manning and Tom Brady i think only real players in madden should get the smart Qb like say in Franchise mode you get a rookie in the draft you start him and you change plays when there is blitz or you make the O line pass protection like slides towards blitz which would build their awareness thats a smart Qb to me i wish Ea made it that way instead of just smacking ova ever with a smart icon

DA should be 90 and Young should be 93 at least cummon EA

HOW is Jay Cutler 86???, and Rivers 90, if rivers is 90 than Jay should be 95
Jay had a better QB rating than rivers
there were 7 attempts seperating the 2
and Jay had 20 completions more than Rivers
Jay had 300+ yards more, but instead He gets Shafted because The Broncos didnt make it to the playoffs.
Screw EA

DA or derek anderson had like the 4th or 5th most T.D passess this season and hes only ben playing for 1 full season do i think he deserves more then an 88 maybe an 89

Vince Young has a good rating but I think Matt Schaub should have a higher rating. (don't count brett favre out yet, he could come back)lol

Romo should be a mid-to-low 80 speed...

I completely agree. especially after that run against the Rams. when he dropped the snap and then ran after it then dropped it again then picked it up and got a first down. lol

Brian Brohm with better speed than Matt Ryan? I seriously doubt that. Brohm rarely leaves the pocket. He's definitely not more mobile than Ryan. Matt Ryan is even known for his ability to extend a play by getting out of the pocket.

Tom brady and peyton manning are completely overrated, both have 100 awareness and 99 acc, Joe Montana is the only QB who should have the 100 awr rating!

I agree with those who say Dennis Dixon got underated in the spd ratings, in NCAA Football 08 he had a spd rating of 87, now he is 60 wtf, sure the torn ACL would slow him down a bit but not that much, EA is run by a bunch of corportate dumbshits!

Wheres dan marino

Another thing garad should have a higher awarness and throw accuracy becuase he only through like 3 to 5 picks the WHOLE season

They cant be giving Dixon a 60 speed hes faster then that. And QB Ben Rothlisberger deserves every bit of the rating he got at 95. Did you see the way he made oncoming sackers look dumb? He blew up this season throwing 30 plus TD's in 07 and had a solid quarterback rating.

I personally hate the patriots every single last piece of them, but they are raw. Even though they cheated like dumasses the team didnt even need to they have such good talent. I hate Tom Brady but he does deserve the 99 rating but not the 100 i dont think. D hester was the only 100 stat player that i saw in madden and he worked for it. That mans ridiciouls but i agree, i think joe montana is the only 1 who deserves that 100 awareness rating. But shitttt fukk them patriots they alll cheaters!!!

Jamarcus russel only 98 thp thats bs if he could throw 70 yards on his knees who knows how far he could throw on his feet.....plus matt ryan is rated better than him thats bs wtf ea ......brett farve is way underrated too

Jeff Garcia is better than what he got. Wtf!! J. Russell has a better Accuracy rating than McNabb!?!?! YOU SUCK EA!!! A RETARD MONKEY WITH A.D.D AND NO BRAIN COULD DO BETTER! I said my peace.

Brett Favre's coming back another year and they're not gonna have him on Madden. :(

Technically brett farve will be in 09 but he will be a FA

This Is stupid

Lets take away bradys recievers and give him 1 just 1 and see how he does he sucks.... he cant throw the ball far in week 17 when he tried to break the recored whenhe threw the ball long to moss the only reason y he dropped it is because it was under thrown. EA u guys sucked this year man watch some football... im 15 ill tell u the whole starting line up for the pack and 10 players on each team and how good they are.. DO U HAVE ANY OPENINGS FOR MADDEN RAITNGS I LIKE AN APPLICATION MAN... Favre is the best and u dont have him at 99 arm or he improved this year on hitting the target hes smart accurate and he has the best arm in da game... fuck u brady u cheating bastards im so glad the giants beat u!

The question is where the hell is the qb with the highest qb rating in the history of the nfl with the most seasons with over a hundred qb rating.with 2 mvps.superbowl mvp with a record six tds in a superbowl.second most rushing yards for qb with 4239 yds.most rushing tds my qb with 43.33,139 yds passing.232 pasing td only had 107 picks .career comp at 65% rank 1 when he retired.td to int 1 alltime when he retired.also one of the toughest players in nfl history with out question.im talking about steve young if you didnt already no.hes should be in the game with a 100 rating.

First of all tom brady should only have like 95 or 96 thp, peyton should have 100 tha. Peyton should have a 97 thp. how does dennis dixon only have 60 spd. at least 86 (due to his injury)

To the morons (esp izisviAzria) who question Brady's "arm-strengh" or QB abilities:
1)chk the final minute of the Superbowl(vs Giants), Brady unoaded a pass to Moss(in triple coverage; knocked down.) that was 70 yds in the air...Troy Aiman spec. commented on on the pass & his arm: "Brady's got as good an arm as anybody in the League." Very easy to get(then, verify 'this')the video of Pats vs. Giants superbpwl.
2)Also, in the reg. season game vs. Steelers (Pats won by 21 pts; Brady had 3 TD passes), Brady threw a bomb to Moss(moss was tripped; then, stumbled.)that again ended-up 70 yds "in-the-air" to the back of the end-zone....Jim Nance spec. commented on the 70-yd length of the pass & Phil Simms agreed!
3) Now i'll acknowledge that the best arm in a starting QB's prime -- i've ever seen -- belonged to Bret Favre....But that was in his prime: he certainly can't throw the ball as far as Brady now(Favre's 38; Brady's 30)....The farthest i saw favre throw the ball in the 07-08 season was the TD bomb during 'sudden death OT' game on Monday Night & that was 55 yds.....Mind you, that's still a "Bomb" but it's no 70 yds!
4)As far as Brady as QB: Ask Moss who he credits for the Yr he had...As far as Welker, there aren't enough adjectives in the book for the way he lavishes praise on Tom Brady(by the way, he'll even admit that no prior season of his, has he put up the #'s like he did last yr.
5) When Sammy Morris went down(early in the 5th game of season), the Pats didn't have a running game again 'til Moroni came alive at the end of the season....Point is: Even when 'other teams' knew Pats were going to pass (& had both Moss & Welker double-covered)Brady still with deadly accuracy hit theses guys on the #'s in between defenders 'All Yr Long'!
I mean, just give the guy his due; all i hear is this picky animosity & outside of Favre, P. Manning & R. Jaworski, he's played (w/o missing a start) the most consecutive games in NFL history(still only 30yrs old)----The Guy's a Gamer!!!

Dennis dixon is faster than a 60

Vince young and derek anderson have the same rating anderson should be a 90 young should be an 80 and why is rex grossman have a 95 power and 84 accuracy he is the worst quarterbabk playing in the nfl it should be 0/0/0/0

Dennis Dixon speed is under rated like they did troy smith on the last one. Dennis Dixon should have at least 86 spd and troy smith should have 82-84 spd. Colt Brennan is under rated also. STOP! under rating the black qbs spd rating I don't know if I wanna even play madden anymore now the ratings are TERRIBLE!!!

Will someone please explain to me how Brett Favre has the same speed as DENNIS DIXON? And to 15mondello, have you even watched Brett play? He has a stronger arm than anyone else in the league. ARM STRENGTH DOES NOT ONLY MEAN BOMBS!!!

HORRIBLE. looks like they took madden 07 and jus tweaked a thing or two . . . Joe montana 95 throw power? haha and jamarcus only 98 compared to toms 99 ! brady should have like 96 or maybe 97 throw power j-marcs shoud have 99. very little effort it looks like to me haha most qbs hav the same ratings in 08 ... EA doesnt know a dam thing about football.. they wana compare current qbs to legends then they should do it rite and not jus let joe montana have 95 arm strength like this is a fairytale... Sorry this is so long but i have a lot uh problems with this .. wen will they make madden accurate ! brett favre got completely screwed. bretts awr is only 92 .. sad.. also my qb jon kitna is exactly the same as he was in 08... no respect ! put in some time and effort EA ! i'm payin u asses 65 buks for the same dam game ! Chris redman is underrated for falcons fans.. denis dixon waaaaay underatted .. alex smith 80 ? should be like 76 . . and jeff garcia is overated even though i think hes a warrior but i think his arms slipping a lil more than that 87.. tavaris underrated.. big ben overrated.. so much more than that believe it or not but .. haha i gon be tweakin those ratings wen i buy this one..

This comment is about romo . first off i hate the cowgirls more than any team in sports. But ya anyways people have complained about his speed on here but i think its not that he has great speed its that he is elusive .. and another thing about romo : T.0 was WIDE open most the the time he threw it deep . 0r he was gettin amazing YAC from owens because hes built to be as strong as a dam linebacker and as fast as a defensive back. plus witten was open most of the time and romo has maybe the best line in the game. plus a security blanket in marion barber .and u saw wen owens was out vs washington in the last game uh the year romo was horrible for the short time he played . O ya and romo always looks like a baby wen they are losing .. always looks like hes shedding tears , so ya itll be interesting to see how he handles a losing streak .. maybe like the one he experienced in 06 that ended in seattle when he was left on the turf holding his helmet crying after he fumbled the field goal snap ... :(

How come there is no black quarterback with a decent awareness...(besides mcnabb)

People always talk about aaron rodgers arm being so strong and then people always say how marc bulgers arm is weaker and yet they have the same arm strength. does EA have any clue ?

Ryguynpack11 stop hating on brady and the patriots.. i'm a lions fan not a patriots fan but i'm a football fan and i'm sick of people hating on the patriots for no dam reason . by the way do u remember the play rite after the underthrown ball to moss ? well if u recall brady went rite back to moss and hit him in stride deep, braking the single season td record

"detroitbow 109" is right re: Brady-to-Moss 50th TD pass....This TD was thrown in final game at Giants stadium(where there are much the same wind gusts that there are at Foxboro in Dec.)...What actually occurred was (if you playback in 'slo-mo' -- & i've got most of the reg season film -- you'll see that the 1st pass suddenly died & fluttered downward) Brady related this to Moss: he'd do it again, adjust & put more mustard on it (cutting right through the wind, hitting him perfectly in stride -- this acct was later verified in Q&A).

And please, don't forget the winning TD pass in the final seconds against the 'Ravens' at Baltimore into a 30-35 mph wind...It was a Bullet(both Jaworski & Cornheiser later stated as much!).

To "Sr Oscar": Like i originally said, i've never seen a stronger arm than Favre in his prime (but, he's no longer in his prime & his arm isn't now as strong as Brady's -- or Palmer's or P Manning's right now -- & no disrespect intended).

Final Pt.: You also implied arm-strength isn't just measured in distance (but, throwing in traffic as well)....In NFL DBs close really fast(so i couldn't agree more)...A WR might be open momentarily down the middle(20-35 yds downfield) & if a particular team's offense lacks a 'running game' for 85% of the season(like the Patriots), opponents are going to 'key' on that team's QB & 'Wideouts' like they did w/the Pats almost the entire season!....If you don't think it takes a "Gun"(not to mention deadly accuracy) to consistently complete passes under those conditions, then, there are a few other Guys you need to talk to -- Like: Aikman, Montana, Young, Simms, Jaworski, Marino etc. etc.(ALL of whom have echoed the 'above' same remarks & sentiments I've just stated).

How is dennis dixon's speed 60 ?! how can tom brady through harder then russell? how is matt ryan better the russell?

So happy with Big Ben with that. But don't think he is that good.

How come drew brees stats went down whats up with that he threw for 28 TDs and 18 picks

Also big ben is not a better QB then brees

Chad Henne and Joe Flacco have 95 and 97 throw power? And Cutler has 95? Don't tell me either of those two rookies throw as hard as Cutler.

Brady 99 arm.. kidding me.. his accuracy and awareness are fine... power should be like 92 93.. they want him to clearly be better than manning.. they shouldve made manning accuracy 98 and awareness 99 instead of 100... too many errors at qb... if a qb has no awareness they basically are very bad... i feel bad for tavaris..

Eli manning 93... way overrated.. i understand he won a superbowl mvp... but defense was the real reason... eli statistics were horrible last season.. maybe a 90 but 93 too much.. and how the hell is aaron rodgers a 83 and he barely played in his career... hes better than a several qbs.. madden should really let me do the ratings for his game..

As far as pure armstrength, there's little difference between P. Manning, T. Brady , Carson Palmer or Cutler: it's basically a toss-up; they all have "guns".........The QB with likely the strongest arm of 'all' is J. Russell; i didn't really factor him in because he's yet to be a full-time starter.

To emoneybk300: i've always been fascinated by QBs...I watch alot of games, commentary & isolated film of various competitors at that position -- throughout the course of an NFL season...Pt. Is: Your way off if you don't think Brady's got a 'gun'....Like i said it's probably a toss-up between the 4 QBs i named(above).....For 90% of last yr, Pats were purely a passing team & every other team defended 'them' as such: it takes more than accuracy to hit a guy momentarily open 25 yds-out w/DBs closing fast, it takes velocity!..........Honestly -- rather than sound ill-informed -- do your homework: you can start w/the last series of last yr.'s Superbowl (incomplete because Moss was triple-teamed; but, over 70 yds in the air by just stepping into 'it': a 'Gun').....

Almost all Pats' games were nationally televised...For you to come away w/the impression brady doesn't have a "strong arm', you'd have to be clueless!

Hmm. What Will Favre's Rating Be NOW???

Ok madden 2009 is bull,why is tony romo faster then david garrad...i mean really tom brady 99 throw power overated....and i feel sorry for chad P lol 82 throw power wow he culdnt throw 30 yards and derek anderson extremely underated he deserves 90+

Mondello im a football god.. i watch it all the time.. ive been playin madden for ages.. tom brady personally to me is the best QB period.. and he does have a great arm.. im jus sayin that a 99 arm strength is ridaculous... there are clearly many more football players with a better arm...

Emoneybk300: I agree with most of what you stated...Probably the only guy who potentially deserves a 99 arm-strength is Jemarcus Russel(I say potentially because i haven't seen him start enough games?)....Then, there are 4-5 guys who fall into the 2nd tier(the difference in arm-strength amongst these guys is SO negligible that it'd depend on how anyone of them felt on a given Sinday?)& 'they' are: Peyton Manning, C. Palmer, T. Brady & B. Favre(in his prime, he had the greatest arm I've ever seen; but he's now 38)....

To say that there are ALOT of guys with a stronger arm than Brady's is just wrong(!) & I can name a bunch of all-time Great QBs who've echoed this same opinion(along the lines of: "Brady's got as strong an arm as anybody in the game."): J. Montana, Troy Aiman(used that exact quote late in 4th quarter of last year's Superbowl--chk it out), Phil Simms, Marino, Young etc. etc....But, I think we're basically on the same page!