Playing against an opponent who has a great running attack can be difficult to stop without taking the appropriate measures...
Playing against an opponent who has a great running attack can be extremely difficult to stop. One of the most successful theories behind slowing down the run is stacking defenders near the line of scrimmage. In this tip, SportsGamer's going to show an example of exactly what it means to "stack" defenders in the box. It's important to remember to choose a defense that can also adequately defend against the pass. Continue reading below for the complete breakdown.
In this first image, we've come out with the New York Giants in the 46 Normal 2 Man Under. We want to stress yet again the importance of not getting beat deep in just one play. The 2 Man Under is a solid defensive choice, especially at the beginning of a game, because every receiver is manned up with two safeties playing over the top deep. We would recommend controlling the deepest safety on the field and just staying back until you start to pick up on some of your opponent's tendencies. Once you've picked up on where you opponent likes to go with the football, then look to take some chances later in the game.
Here is a close-up of what the defensive setup looks like before we have made an changes. Currently, we have eight defenders in the box, with the second level of defenders about 4 yards off the line of scrimmage.
The next step we take is manually sliding each linebacker and the lone strong safety directly behind the four members of our defensive line. By moving each one of these players we have now created a "stacked" look that makes it difficult for the members of the offensive line to know who they are accountable for blocking after the snap.
As the quarterback turns to hand the ball off to the running back you can see a number of open gaps in the offensive line. In this particular example, the right guard is basically useless as he stands in the middle of the field looking to make a block. The fact that these this player is not blocking anyone means that we will have even bigger holes for our defenders to penetrate. The blocking won't always unfold in this exact fashion. However, the idea behind this theory is to create constant confusion for your opponent's offensive line.
Our opponent tries to make a quick cut to the left, but the linebacker is right there waiting to make the hit.
The "stacking" defenders technique created enough confusion up front to allow multiple defenders in on the play. Getting multiple defenders in the backfield every time would obviously be ideal. However, all you need is just one to disrupt the timing of any play.
"Stacking" defenders can be done with virtually every formation in Madden. However, some formations may require a line shift or a fake blitz to get the right amount of defenders in the box. One example that comes to mind is when calling the 3-4 2 Man Under defense. When using this defense try shifting the defensive line to the left and fake blitzing to create a "stacked" look without any necessary manual movements. An opponent who can consistently bust your defense in the mouth with a tough running game may be the most annoying to play against. Fortunately, it only takes one loss in the backfield or a minimal gain to force your opponent into a passing situation.
It's cheese dude. You can't manually set up your guys on offense, can you? Thats why we get these BS unstoppable nano's, because you move your guys around and AI doesn't react properly.
1. they never say it's in the NYG PB...
2. you think every NFL team uses the exact same defensive fronts as everyone else with no adjustments. Not all 4-3 teams run 4-3 Normal (aka "Stack") some don't run Normal, Under or Over because they have their own version. Manually moving defenders is not a crime in my book.
I have to agree with Fuegokid and Bangel manually moving defenders is not cheeese my friend and if you play madden enough you know how to defend nanos....and in the nfl they bring defenders up in the box sometimes to stop the run
First of all, whether or not the 46 is in the Giants playbook is hardly the point.
Second, defenses constantly move around presnap in the NFL specifically for the purposes of causing confusion. This includes linebackers moving behind lineman to prevent getting blocked. Just watch Ray Lewis.
Third, obviously offenses don't move around presnap like this because its illegal. Once set, an offense can only use motion.
Fourth, quit giving people the impression that there are unstoppable measures because there aren't. There is a counter for anything.
I changed the 46 Normal formation in my own playbook a bit, so that the LBs and the SS would stack up... Wow!!! Also works pretty well without stacking up manually.
"It's cheese dude. You can't manually set up your guys on offense, can you? Thats why we get these BS unstoppable nano's, because you move your guys around and AI doesn't react properly."
I hate to break it to you G00mp, your arguement is WEAK. The offense in real life are NOT ALLOWED to move. What makes you think that can in the game to counter what the defense is doing??? Get a clue.
Do you remember Colt vs Steelers in 06 playoffs, when the STEELERS stacked the line with SS-Troy Polomula and he was blitzing in between the Guard and Center??? Didn't that remind you of a NANO in MADDEN when he was busting through the line and PEYTON was getting his ass handed to him and getting pissed at his OLINE for not blocking??
I don't recall Tony Dungy complaining that the STEELERS were moving all over the place and say it was not fair??
The game was not created to move defensive guys around.
An AI engine is not that smart.
All you guys are doing is exploiting a weakness in the AI.
In real life lines could stop a rush like that by zone blocking. Some teams employ defenses like a 46 that but not all the time because it can be beat easily through zone blocking and plays designed to compress the rush.
Confusing the O-line (who is manned strictly by the CPU) is really gay guys. You guys should just play straight up like a man. Freakin nerdy losers.
Yes the NFL does move players around pre-snap to confuise the O-Line. However, if they do it more then 1 time, the O-line picks it up, learns from it and adjusts to stop it next time. The offense reacts and learns in real life.
Now in Madden, you can move guys around pre-snap to confuse the AI. However, the O-Line will NEVER learn from it and never react differently to it to pick it up the next time manual movement is abused. Therefore it is a weak cheese move abused by players who can not play sim ball and need to cheat and skirt around the AI playing un-sim style ball. The manual moves and "nano" work everytime with the offense having little or no advancement in reactions.
In the 06 Steelers/Colts playoff game, the Steelers did to Peyton Manning what all defenses should do to him. They let him walk up to the line of scrimmage and make his typical and multiple adjustments to a bogus defensive look. As Manning went under Center, the Steelers quickly shifted their personnel around to counter what Manning had just spent 15 seconds adjusting to thus thwarting Manning's adjustments. It was a very simple and LEGAL concept.
Now manually moving players because there is no slide protection feature is why it considered cheese. moving players with the shift buttons that is totally cool. i hate when people take d-lineman 20 yards downfield. if u click off of him he wouldnt be able to stay there so that in my opinion is cheese.
Audibles... someone stacks their D in the box you call an audible for a short pass to your tight end who is facing little to no coverage. u can pick all your audibles you know. And nothing you can do to a CPU is cheese, the game was made that way then until they make AI more intellegen too GD bad F the AI they deserve to lose for not being smart enough
The simple fact that you "are confusing the AI" is cheese. Frankly i can't believe that sportsgamer let this article go up. that's a pretty weak strategy for a weak gamer. Exploiting a weakness in the AI is hardly a "strategy". What a joke.
I get irritated by nano blitzers and people who use the rocket pack catch and just pound the ball with LT because they don't know how to pass effectively. However, I have to say there IS a counter to everything. Just because you haven't taken the time to learn how to counter it dosen't mean its cheese. It just means you need to spend more time practicing and less time complaining.
I get irritated by nano blitzers and people who use the rocket pack catch and just pound the ball with LT because they don't know how to pass effectively. However, I have to say there IS a counter to everything. Just because you haven't taken the time to learn how to counter it dosen't mean its cheese. It just means you need to spend more time practicing and less time complaining.
How is that cheese defenses in the nfl change thier looks at the line of scrimmage to confuse the qb's on every play and stack the line when they know that the offense has a great rb or a terrible air game. and offenses do change there players around to just look at the jets under mangini they changed everyone twice on every play
In the "real" NFL, the line will make adjustments. You may be able to confuse the offensive once or twice with the same exact look, but eventually they will adapt or at least attempt to make adjustments.
In Madden, the same look will yield the same results every time. Sure you can audible and hot route your backs/receivers to counter, but there is nothing the O-Line can do to compensate. That is why it is cheese.
Manually moving multiple defensive players exploits the limitations of the pre-programmed offensive line. That is the very definition of exploit or cheese.
Is everyone here from Wisconsin or something? All you have to do is learn how to play the game. If you don't get a flag then it's not cheating. Besides, everyone who is reading these articles is looking for an advantage. So all of us are "cheese"
LMAO at some of these responses. You guys arguing that it isn't cheese are only further proving the point with your responses.
"Is everyone here from Wisconsin or something? All you have to do is learn how to play the game. If you don't get a flag then it's not cheating. Besides, everyone who is reading these articles is looking for an advantage. So all of us are "cheese"
