Watched Sandlot (more like Sandarape)

So, signed up for Disney+ for Ahsoka. And, wanted to get my moneys worth and started randomly watching shit. Mostly Denzel Washington stuff because he's good in everything.

But.

Randomly, at 3am decided to watch The Sandlot Kids because vaguely remember a scene with a dog. And the fat kid.

But was taken aback by this scene somewhat.

The scene afterword's seems to indicate that the life-guard woman winks at him now and now respects him. Like he's leveled up in an RPG or something for his lecherous and exploitive tendency that can be under no guise, sexual assault.

Given how Disney is considered "woke" and going back and editing stuff, how the hell did this make the cut? Did they just, not watch it?

Me personally, don't care. Doesn't bother me. Get that out of the way. But just surprised this still exists and no one their thought "yea, bit much".

Oh yea and he marries her. She becomes his wife in the prologue.

This movie is presented as fluffy but it' arguably darker than Stand By Me as the writer appears to be morally bankrupt trying to romanticize what is in reality quite seedy.

The production company for The Sandlot is 20th Century Fox. Disney didn't buy them until recently. That scene is in the trailers. Are you sure the winking isn't in that kid's mind? He has a distorted view of reality and what's acceptable. There are a lot of raunchy movies from the 90s, including movies aimed at kids that pushed boundaries of what is acceptable.

Even now there are a lot of movies aimed at kids that have adult jokes in them.

IRL the kid sued the production company because he didn't like his character.

Disney owned Miramax when they released Pulp Fiction and Clerks and these have content that goes beyond The Sandlot.

Now Disney owns everything that Unilever hasn't bought, so they might still make other things that disturb you.

Love this movie. This and Little Giants are gems.

In the real world, people get offended. In the real world, people don't give a damn if they offend you. Censor crap on television and the Internet, make people emotionally weaker to take it in real life when it comes, because it will come. :/

I notified Disney on your behalf. :p

Is it really unreasonable to suggest this is a terrible message to send kids? The target audience?

Mean, think suggesting sexual assault is abit of fun and will result in a hot trophy wife is generally bad, in the real world as well.

Children are being exposed to a lot of bad messages, through media, through social media, through friends, through parents. If you can avoid it and you have children, by all means. I don't want my kids seeing porn, but newsflash, they're going to find it whether I want them to or not. Television likes to make things sexualized. There's even a statistic that read that over 90% of children now'a days will be exposed to porn before the age of 12.

@mycatismilk: Hopefully what happens is that parents both display and bestow critical thinking, rational judgment, beneficent morals, on children. Hopefully these children, when exposed to elements outside of the control of the parents, will use these tools in a mature manner as displayed and supported by those they trust. And if they don't, hopefully the child's support group will continue to nurture these elements and the child will be encouraged to mature.

Personally wouldn't show this to my child, it's what they mean by "outdated" content. Knowing before hand this is the content it would just be bad parenting.

Show them something inspirational like The Iron Giant or Rocky 4.

@uninspiredcup: Everyone learns and grows at a different rate in different areas, and grow up in a different context where there might be more focus on some things than others. Naturally each individual is equipped to deal with different things. It sounds like a good idea to keep that in mind when you make a conscious decision of what to expose your child to. It also seems important to proactively discuss things with your child, even if they don't raise the topic or raise a question themselves.

If something seems "outdated" then it might be difficult for a child to get the context themselves from their "modern" environment, so could require additional effort when exposing them to broader content. It seems reasonable to think that some could deal with it and some could be overwhelmed.

It seems helpful to be intimately aware of your child's thoughts and concerns, their aptitude, and what they become exposed to.

unsurprising. there's a lot of older movies, even those targeted at kids that has some questionable content by today's standards.

shit sleeping beauty and snow white have nonconsensual kisses in them...

I know some movies on d+ have warnings about possible negative stereotypical portrayals of other cultures ( aladdin might have one ). that's probably the way to do for something like that as well. IMO outright removal of everything objectionable by modern standards is going to leave you with a pretty small catalog, and alteration of the original material ( radios in ET rather than guns? ) is just stupid.

I unironically love this stuff in older movies/books. It's illustrative about the culture, and documents the shifts that have been occurring.

@uninspiredcup: it was the 90s. Better times. Movie is a classic.

@mattbbpl: I like it because I find inappropriate stuff in fictional movies hilarious.

Media is a cool time machine. It would be nice if streaming had commentary tracks to enhance the context. Liner notes have largely gone away too with music.

It's not that bad and community pool lifeguards tend to be high school kids, so their age difference is probably like...a few years.

Like he might be 13 and she is 17 or something, I don't know.

I thought the vomit scene was much worse, frankly. Neither scene offends me.

It really is.

Would love developer commentary, too. Was fun playing some games (Riddick: Escape from butcher bay, for example) with commentary enabled. Nice insights.

Was talking about the Robin Williams/Nathan Lane feature "Birdcage" today with a friend. That movie would NEVER get made today. It wasn't pretentious and preachy, it was just a funny movie that poked fun at stereotypes without being overly exploitive, and had a really good message at the end of it. Hank Azaria was great in it too.

I see nothing wrong with that scene. Props to the kid for the stunt.

@mrbojangles25: You should watch the original, too.

Keep away from woman if think this.

I would disagree with this. More so the context it's being presented, than the thing itself.

Can have bad stuff in movies, including children's movies. Like Anakin literally killing children. Entire planet gets blown up. Someone gets burnt alive with fairly graphic imagery for something aimed at children.

But, Lucas presents it as evil and tragic. That's what the kids take-away. He's not subtle about it. Very blunt.

The chud who made this movie, tries to present it as childrens cheeky fun with the upmost reward. It's not only presented as acceptable, but practically encouraged. Get bonus XP.

The movie itself re-watching it didn't like very much, viewed it very much as a shit Stand By Me. And that movie has kids attempt to find a dead body for funzies, but has like, a logical conclusion where it's actually, not cool.

I can get the arguments about censorship and historical curio, but the movie itself does just ring of trying to present nasty as good.

When a lot of movies (see above) can have much nastier stuff, but give it context that isn't morally dubious dressed up with feel good fluff.

Side note as well - Stand By Me was made in 1986, this was made in 1994.

Eh not that bad of a scene. Kid got banned. Consequences.

@LJS9502_basic: The movie has both the other kids, and the woman, admire him. Then he marries her.

A kid with a crush kisses a life guard and they get married and have kids... She banned them from the pool for the rest of the summer and she decided no to press the issue, not to mention it takes place in a different era before everyone tried to ruin everything for one reason or another.. great movie, stop crying and trying to make things more than they are..

I watched your example. Looks like you want to be offended. It's a movie.

Don't worry Karen, I am not interested in you.

Answered your point.

It's like someone shitting in your yard, and saying "ok that was bad but I admire you, btw here's a winning lottery ticket, enjoy my bro"

Oversimplified it, ignoring everything else. The reward vastly outweighs the punishment nullifying the punishment. They regret absolutely nothing, and get rewarded for life.

A kid with a crush almost kills himself via drowning. Pretends to be dead. Then forces a unsuspecting kiss as she attempted to save his life.

Again, this is over-simplification. Both points made here deliberately strip away elements to justify it.

Yea, be because, those things listed above, are bad.

We use to make black people stand on the bus as well. They should insert a scene where the kid shouts at one of them to GET UP while some upbeat music plays in the background with whimsical Wonder Years monologue.

The bus driver can tell him to talk, not shout. Incredible repercussions.

@uninspiredcup: Sure man... let's take a movie with outdated ordeals and take it way more seriously than it was ever intended. Give me a break. I'm pretty sure a whole generation of future children didn't go on to be serial rapists because of that one stupid scene. Why in the hell does everything need to be made more than it actually is? It's a damn movie. A good one at that, and 98 percent of people agree, so you can try to paint this however you want, I'm just saying it isn't the driving idea of the movie and is only a short diversion. Is it a little odd and out of place? Sure, but that was the point and why everyone couldn't believe it happened and thought he was crazy to begin with...

You would probably have an aneurysm if you watched Major League... lol

We don't know how many rapists were made from the Sandlot kids. Jeffrey Dahmer was influenced by Palpatine, use to wear eye-contacts. Ate people.

All it takes is "1".

If they ever do that scene with the black girl they should get Fred Savage to play the bus driver.

@uninspiredcup: you gotta be trolling lol it's a common trope, the freshman nerd who has a crush on the older high-school girl..

He pulled one to get a kiss, she realizes it, gets mad at him kicks him out the pool. Later in life they get to talking and become a couple.

It's a pretty funny scene in the movie.

Don't think it's fair to compare sandlot to stand by me. Sandlot was a cheeky comedy for kids. Stand by me is more of an emotional drama about friendship, geared more towards older audiences than kids tbh.

people are so oversensitive this days...

The scene is funny because the kid has no power over her. It's basically just a prank from a harmless kid to a woman than except for a moment is completely in control of their interactions.

For comparison sake, we just watched an episode of Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers in which a kid told an off-brand Mr. Wizard, "Ah gee Mr. Wizard, I was hoping we'd learn how to make plastic explosives out of household detergents."

Honestly the most offensive thing--and I am really going out of my way to find something, and I don't actually beieve this--about the Sandlot is their inaccurate portrayal of race relations and how their one black friend was treated the same as everyone else.

This film takes place in 1962, after all.

I can't hold that against them, though, it's a generally light hearted movie that is shamelessly embracing American...I don't know what you want to call it....American idealism? A sort of perfect, fictionalized America.

Now that's a show!