Russia offers bounty to kill US and UK soldiers

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Trumps response has naturally been overwhelming to this. As has Boris Johnson.

The bombshell report in the New York Times says there has been a major escalation by Moscow to undermine the White House and its coalition allies, including the UK, as President Trump seeks a peace deal with the Taliban.

According to the paper, Trump was briefed on the activity months ago, but no discernible action has been taken. The UK received the intelligence last week. The 29155 unit of the GRU, an arm of Russia’s military intelligence agency, was responsible for executing the plan, according to the paper. In recent years, it has been linked to assassination attempts aimed at destabilising the West....

Russia has denied the allegations, accusing the New York Times of fake news and claiming that the story has placed the lives of its embassy employees at risk. The Taliban has also denied the story. But Dr Yuri Felshtinsky, a Russian intelligence expert who wrote the book Blowing Up Russia with the murdered spy Alexander Litvinenko, said the GRU’s approach was a logical one: “It’s just a continuation of military operations using different tools. And money is a very good tool to be used – if you pay somebody to kill Americans it’s actually much easier and cheaper than to do it using the GRU.”

Sir Andrew Wood, Britain’s ambassador to Russia from 1995 to 2000, said the allegations were “perfectly plausible”, adding: “I don’t think it’s the sort of thing made up for propaganda purposes. Of course, the Russians would deny it if Vladimir Putin had been photographed shooting someone in the head.”

Trump hopes that a peace deal with the Taliban will end the Afghanistan war and give a major fillip to his re-election campaign. But the president’s refusal to confront Putin has prompted concern in diplomatic circles.

“Trump is helping Putin as much as he is able to help him and not releasing information about Americans being killed by Taliban with financial support from the Russian state goes with this general policy,” Felshtinsky said.

There is a suspicion that Boris Johnson and his predecessor, Theresa May, have been reluctant to publish an Intelligence and Security Committee report on Russia, finished last October, for fear of upsetting Trump.

In his confidential submission to the committee, the former spy Christopher Steele has reportedly suggested that the Kremlin has a “likely hold” over Trump, a claim that has been fiercely disputed but which would sour the government’s relations with the White House once published. “These worrying reports should be the catalyst for the prime minister to finally release the ISC report No. 10 have been stalling for more than six months,” said shadow foreign secretary Lisa Nandy.“Under this government, Britain is retreating from the world stage and the fear among our allies is that Boris Johnson is afraid to stand up to Vladimir Putin’s Russia.”

Lib Dem spokesman Alistair Carmichael echoed the call for the ISC report to be published: “These reports throw up serious questions about Trump’s soft-touch when it comes to Russia.

The Foreign Secretary must also make clear whether the UK had any knowledge of these reports and what conversations he has had with his US counterpart about sanctions towards Russia given these shocking revelations.”

Grow some balls BJ.

Anyhow after abandoning a military base in Syria for the Russians to move in, this does not come as a surprise really.

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Russia destabilising the US? Did Putin study at an American university?

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Every country does the same, what a surprise!

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Not surprising and incredibly believable. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the whole debacle in Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq is, to some degree, a proxy war.

@kadin_kai said:

Russia destabilising the US? Did Putin study at an American university?

Nah man, imperialism and such existed long before the US even existed. Russia has a long tradition of it.

The US is just the most recent to do it.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Not surprising and incredibly believable. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the whole debacle in Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq is, to some degree, a proxy war.

@kadin_kai said:

Russia destabilising the US? Did Putin study at an American university?

Nah man, imperialism and such existed long before the US even existed. Russia has a long tradition of it.

The US is just the most recent to do it.

Yeah you’re right. I guess all countries do it at some degree.

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God. DAMN!

Lincoln Project is savage AF!

That deserves a second one

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Would be horrible if true, but I seriously doubt it is.

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@Chutebox said:

Would be horrible if true, but I seriously doubt it is.

Why?

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trump+putin=wack

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#12 horgen  Moderator
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Along with his illegal seizing of Pentagon funds for the law.

Seems like he just hate the military.

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There have been reports over the years of Russia providing weapons to the Taliban. Paying out bounties for killing Americans seems like a logical escalation. I can also believe Trump would look the other way on this. He was willing to throw our intelligence agencies under the bus and publicly support Putin in Helsinki. He also peddled the debunked conspiracy theory that election interference originated in Ukraine. Which benefits Russia and hurts Ukraine. A country Russia invaded. So, if our intelligence agencies found that Russia was offering/paying bounties on killing American soldiers, I can see him easily ignoring it as a deep state conspiracy. Or whatever he wants to call it at the time.

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@YearoftheSnake5 said:

There have been reports over the years of Russia providing weapons to the Taliban. Paying out bounties for killing Americans seems like a logical escalation. I can also believe Trump would look the other way on this. He was willing to throw our intelligence agencies under the bus and publicly support Putin in Helsinki. He also peddled the debunked conspiracy theory that election interference originated in Ukraine. Which benefits Russia and hurts Ukraine. A country Russia invaded. So, if our intelligence agencies found that Russia was offering/paying bounties on killing American soldiers, I can see him easily ignoring it as a deep state conspiracy. Or whatever he wants to call it at the time.

Boy, talk about history repeating. US supplied weapons to the Taliban to fight Russians in the 1980's.

This is easy to believe, as is Trump's gullibility or even complicity. Dude doesn't care for anyone but himself. And soldiers? He would probably convince himself they die for his glory and like it. So as long as it helps him help Russia (who in turn helps him) he probably will turn a blind eye.

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This wouldn't surprise me, seen Rocky IV.

Right bad bastards.

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It doesn't matter. Trump supporters are the scummiest people and don't give two shits about this country.

Notice the lack of responses? Nothing. no rebuttal.

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This is actually quite disturbing, which makes me think. How will history view Trump supporters?

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@virusvaccine21: As corrupt, immoral shills for the wealthy.

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Just imagine if Obama or any democrat had this happen. For f*ck's sake we had two years of nonsense with Benghazi and now we have Trump ignoring Russian bounty's on American soldiers, of which likely resulted in deaths. Then again these are the same people that cheered on Trump when he made fun of McCain for getting caught during the Vietnam war, one of which he dodged by lying about his medical status.

I await their outcry when someone is kneeling during the anthem again. True patriots.

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#20 YearoftheSnake5
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Oh boy, here we go. I was wondering when the cycle would start. Trump calls the bounty report a hoax. Mueller, Ukraine, COVID, these "hoax" claims always tend to go a particular way. Deny, deflect, rage a bit, and then accept(but so what?).

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Stopped reading after ‘New York Times says’.

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I'm sure THIS will be the moment when the President stands up for our military and not Russia, right?

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Stopped reading after ‘New York Times says’.

Donald Trump probably stopped reading after 'The'.

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@Willy105 said:

I'm sure THIS will be the moment when the President stands up for our military and not Russia, right?

@Sevenizz said:

Stopped reading after ‘New York Times says’.

Donald Trump probably stopped reading after 'The'.

Sevenizz probably stopped reading after 'T'.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53258965

Well it ended up being bullshit.

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@n64dd said:

Well it ended up being bullshit.

Er that says the CIA didn't brief him but that isn't what has been alleged anyway.

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@n64dd:

Afghan Contractor Handed Out Russian Cash to Kill Americans, Officials Say

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/world/asia/afghan-russia-bounty-middleman.html

3 hours ago.

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#27 mrbojangles25
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All this shit makes me wonder if the world of John Wick is really that far fetched.

No doubt it is not nearly as stylish, but good lord, how much assassinating is out there? How many contractors and "divisions" or whatever do this for their daily job?

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#28 SumPro
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Just a article for the brain dead to read and ignore.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/02/schiff-learned-of-russian-bounty-intelligence-in-february-withheld-information-from-congress-and-took-no-action/

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@SumPro said:

Just a article for the brain dead to read and ignore.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/02/schiff-learned-of-russian-bounty-intelligence-in-february-withheld-information-from-congress-and-took-no-action/

Remove Schiff and Trump!