PS4 Pro's Blu-Ray drive?

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#1 xhawk27
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So I pre-ordered a PS4 Pro, even though it doesn't have a 4k Blu-Ray drive. Do you think Sony can make an External 4k Blu-Ray drive for the PS4 Pro that plugs into a USB 3.1 port?

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#2  Edited By iandizion713
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@xhawk27: Nah. Theyll probably just release a new updated console at an affordable price.

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#3 MonsieurX
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Nope

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#4 xhawk27
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@MonsieurX said:

Nope

Any tech reason it couldn't work?

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@iandizion713 said:

@xhawk27: Nah. Theyll probably just release a new updated console at an affordable price.

Probably already in the pipeline to be released next year

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@GarGx1 said:
@iandizion713 said:

@xhawk27: Nah. Theyll probably just release a new updated console at an affordable price.

Probably already in the pipeline to be released next year

The PS4 Pro +

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I honestly believe this is a huge mistake on Sony's part.

This, coming from the company that pushed regular Blu-Ray so hard in the beginning.

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@danjammer69 said:

I honestly believe this is a huge mistake on Sony's part.

This, coming from the company that pushed regular Blu-Ray so hard in the beginning.

That is why I am saying release an external add-on for $99 like six months after the release of the console for people that can choose to buy it or not.

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#9 SuperFlyZero
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Sony doesn't believe in the format.

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#10  Edited By emgesp
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@xhawk27 said:

So I pre-ordered a PS4 Pro, even though it doesn't have a 4k Blu-Ray drive. Do you think Sony can make an External 4k Blu-Ray drive for the PS4 Pro that plugs into a USB 3.1 port?

Not a chance. Sony has already stated that they don't see a future in physical 4K Blu-ray.

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#11  Edited By xhawk27
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@emgesp said:
@xhawk27 said:

So I pre-ordered a PS4 Pro, even though it doesn't have a 4k Blu-Ray drive. Do you think Sony can make an External 4k Blu-Ray drive for the PS4 Pro that plugs into a USB 3.1 port?

Not a chance. Sony has already stated that they don't see a future in physical 4K Blu-ray.

A format they started.... Ok. You guys do know they are making a stand-alone 4k Blu-Ray box.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that USB external drives are not HDCP compliant.

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@xhawk27 said:
@emgesp said:
@xhawk27 said:

So I pre-ordered a PS4 Pro, even though it doesn't have a 4k Blu-Ray drive. Do you think Sony can make an External 4k Blu-Ray drive for the PS4 Pro that plugs into a USB 3.1 port?

Not a chance. Sony has already stated that they don't see a future in physical 4K Blu-ray.

A format they started.... Ok. You guys do know they are making a stand-alone 4k Blu-Ray box.

Sony's lack of faith in the future of physical media makes me think we might be in for a digitally exclusive path going forward.

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@Shewgenja said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that USB external drives are not HDCP compliant.

you might be right. Though didn't the Xbox 360 have an external HD-DVD drive?

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@xhawk27 said:
@MonsieurX said:

Nope

Any tech reason it couldn't work?

None. No point for Sony to do that

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#16 Shewgenja
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@xhawk27: it was not hdcp compliant if I remember correctly. Studios didnt start really implementing the token til late 07 but dont catch me lying thats some ancient history now lol

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@xhawk27: Don't know if they made the 4k format. They did create the blueray format and it was a battle again the HDdvd format Microsoft was pushing at that time

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Wait for the PS4 Pro Duo :).

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#19  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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No idea but it wouldn't be a terrible idea tbh. Just one that might aggravate people with little positive outcome.

It may seem odd to see Sony turn a blind eye to UHD but the truth is streaming is the primary tool for delivering content. UHD Blu Rays are mostly for the enthusiast, which I'm afraid isn't the main market for PlayStation. If Sony wanted to build a box for enthusiasts, they'd make a PS5 with UHD etc. Think of it this way, if you own a 4KTV right now, your options of 4K content is incredibly limited to the point where 4K Blu Rays are the only real option but that isn't going to be the case forever.

4k streaming is going to be huge in the next 6-18 months and that's where the massive market is. Netflix and Amazon already have 4K / HDR content and they're only expanding. A lot of other OTTs are going to move over to 4K as well. A 4K content boom is going to happen very soon and it's going to be led by streaming.

Sony's decision to leave out UHD Blu Ray is a real sign that this is the new Sony and not the old.

Microsoft's decision to add UHD is very smart for them. They are in a position where they need to add value to their console because at end of the day, they couldn't and arguably cannot keep up with PS4. They won't be able to keep up with PS4 Pro either until Scorpio is released ..... 9+ months from now. You have to provide the consumer with an alternative or else they'll just leave you. Put it this way, if the Xbox One S didn't have 4K streaming or UHD Blu-Ray, PlayStation would mop the floor with them because of PS4 Pro. The PS4 Pro is only an alternative to Xbox One S, it's already an alternative for Scorpio. Smart move both parties.

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#20  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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The bit-rate difference between Blu-Ray 4K Disc (which Xbox One S should be able to play) and the bit-rate of the streaming lossy stuff

is actually big, like comparing the Wav/Flac format to a MP3 file.

By using the Disc itself you can tell the quality of the camera the Director used while filming the movie.

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#21 hrt_rulz01
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Man it's such a joke that it doesn't have 4k Blu-ray drive... unbelievably ridiculous.

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Pretty dumb decision to not include one.

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#23  Edited By deactivated-583c85dc33d18
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Next year's new $400 model should fix the problems of this year.

Thank you, Sony.

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It is a dumb decision to not include one... at face value anyway. The only way I can see that being somewhat justified is if it was actually the tipping point between being able to and not being able to sell this thing at $400. If including the UHD Blu-Ray drive would have forced the price upward in a major way... well then maybe I can understand.

What is clear is that Sony isn't going for "premium" pricing like Microsoft said they are for the Scorpio.

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#25  Edited By lamprey263
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I'm guessing either:

  • Sony promises to firmware update PS4 Neo to make vanilla Blu-ray play UHD Blu-rays
  • Sony promises update to make your 1080p movies look like 4K movies
  • Sony announces new version of PS4 Neo with UHD Blu-ray drive sometime next year

Actually, I think one of those will be the inevitable outcome, can you guess which it is?

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@PraetorianMan said:

It is a dumb decision to not include one... at face value anyway. The only way I can see that being somewhat justified is if it was actually the tipping point between being able to and not being able to sell this thing at $400. If including the UHD Blu-Ray drive would have forced the price upward in a major way... well then maybe I can understand.

What is clear is that Sony isn't going for "premium" pricing like Microsoft said they are for the Scorpio.

Microsoft didn't say it has premium pricing, they said it's a premium product.

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@dynamitecop said:
@PraetorianMan said:

It is a dumb decision to not include one... at face value anyway. The only way I can see that being somewhat justified is if it was actually the tipping point between being able to and not being able to sell this thing at $400. If including the UHD Blu-Ray drive would have forced the price upward in a major way... well then maybe I can understand.

What is clear is that Sony isn't going for "premium" pricing like Microsoft said they are for the Scorpio.

Microsoft didn't say it has premium pricing, they said it's a premium product.

They said that in direct context to its price though.

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#28  Edited By dynamitecop
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@PraetorianMan said:
@dynamitecop said:
@PraetorianMan said:

It is a dumb decision to not include one... at face value anyway. The only way I can see that being somewhat justified is if it was actually the tipping point between being able to and not being able to sell this thing at $400. If including the UHD Blu-Ray drive would have forced the price upward in a major way... well then maybe I can understand.

What is clear is that Sony isn't going for "premium" pricing like Microsoft said they are for the Scorpio.

Microsoft didn't say it has premium pricing, they said it's a premium product.

They said that in direct context to its price though.

But that doesn't necessarily mean it will be priced high or even expensive, a lot of people are confusing what that actually means. It can easily mean it will have a higher premium than what is available currently which is the direct definition of what premium is.

The most expensive console available at the launch of Scorpio will be the PlayStation 4 Pro at $399.99, Xbox Scorpio being $449.99 or $499.99 for example would place it at a premium compared to what else is available and their costs associated with it on the market.

Premium is in addition to what is traditionally expected or available, it doesn't imply it will be highly priced, and for what they are saying the definition of premium simply means that their device is better than what is available.