Uncharted 4 - are we screwed if the game is too linear?

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#1 Blabadon
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Beyond a meh demo that showed off just more Uncharted, the possibilities that the December presentation had weren't nearly as apparent this time. The presentation was so insanely linear that it makes me wonder, how awful will it being playing it the first time?

And yeah, title is as it is because 60 characters, ew.

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#2 Mr_Huggles_dog
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Game looked great.

Can't wait.

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#3 lostrib
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seemed like just prettier uncharted

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#4 Gaming-Planet
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Plays like Uncharted 1, 2, and 3 but with better graphics.

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#5 Nengo_Flow
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how can you hate on this game and that awsome demo?

Jesus Christ...

Who cares if its linear... it seems the only time "linear is a bad thing is when we are talking about Uncharted. how about muthah fucking Gears of War? Halo? the **** is wrong with you morons?

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#6 Jankarcop
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same old movie game bullshit.

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#7 Skelly34
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It probably will be linear.

Same thing, better graphics.

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#8  Edited By melonfarmerz
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Guys the game will look just like the CGI teasers I swear! Guys. Guys??

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#9 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Uncharted and Tomb Raider both looked very linear. Hopefully they just chose linear parts for the stage shows. I wasn't as excited as I wanted to be by either game.

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#10 Blabadon
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@Nengo_Flow said:

how can you hate on this game and that awsome demo?

Jesus Christ...

Who cares if its linear... it seems the only time "linear is a bad thing is when we are talking about Uncharted. how about muthah fucking Gears of War? Halo? the **** is wrong with you morons?

Chill out with the victim complex, and lol bring up Gears. Sad shit man.

Would love to see you one-shot this section once you play it.

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#11 Bigboi500
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Nothing wrong with being linear. Too many games these days are open world and boring as shit.

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#12 Chutebox
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Can someone let me know of this lame demo he's talking about?

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#13 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Looks great. Very open gameplay from the looks of it and a lot of nuanced momentum stuff people seem to be missing.

Looks amazing. Probably the all around best looking game out there.

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#14  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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Linear and those frame rate issues confirm that 60 fps is out of the question.

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#15  Edited By ellos
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I don't expect it to be like open world sandbox style, but if u can take different path and u can approach the gameplay differently then we are good. Otherwise we are screwed. That Naught Dog's attention to detail throw some fun co-op solid multiplayer then its hard to miss.

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#16 lostrib
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Demo video (without the technical issues :P)

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#17 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Ok...

It's uncharted, it looks great.

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#18 Cheleman
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muh freedom

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#19 sailor232
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The driving section was amazing, all else was horrible. If most of the game is open as much as the driving section then the game is a must buy and will be fantastic. Make less fighting and shooting sections please.

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#20 ImBatman-
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The levels are way more open than previous Uncharted games and have multiple pathways.

I think even in the car section you can choose which path you take. Didn't look like there was a set direction, until you make it to the end of course.

The PSX demo was a good showcase of the freedom and they said there are levels bigger than that.

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#21 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Who cares.

It's way too much fun.

Also, I imagine this was a setpiece, meaning it has to be linear by definition.

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#22 Heil68
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No, the demo was truly amazing. Beyond stunning really.

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#23 Douevenlift_bro
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@charizard1605 said:

Who cares.

It's way too much fun.

Also, I imagine this was a setpiece, meaning it has to be linear by definition.

this

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#24  Edited By Ten_Pints
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I got hard when the gameplay section started and the character didn't move.

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#25 zassimick  Moderator
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Linearity is just fine. Especially in an industry with so many open world games with feathers and crap side-missions here and there, it's okay to have an incredibly fun linear experience if it's well done. And Uncharted 4 will be well done.

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#26  Edited By cyclops10
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Nobody in the industry has the same level of presentation as ND.

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#27 Nengo_Flow
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@ten_pints said:

I got hard when the gameplay section started and the character didn't move.

they forgot to plug the controller in

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#28 heretrix
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It'll be ok. It's not like you had much choice in the last 2 games. Uncharted is a linear experience by design.

It's what it is.

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#29  Edited By ellos
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@Nengo_Flow said:
@ten_pints said:

I got hard when the gameplay section started and the character didn't move.

they forgot to plug the controller in

Bruce Sraley was a noob. He might of also done it on purpose to troll. almost like there were just gonna end it there lol.

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#30 misterpmedia
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Looks less linear than Tomb Raider, which was surprising lol. MS really fucked up with that reveal.

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#31 Evo_nine
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yawn same old shit with ps3 graphics.

can we have something new? please?

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#32 demon-returns
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@Evo_nine said:

yawn same old shit with ps3 graphics.

can we have something new? please?

says the guy with a mortal kombat avatar lol..... people never cease to amaze me. Humankind is doomed

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#33 Nengo_Flow
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@Evo_nine said:

yawn same old shit with ps3 graphics.

can we have something new? please?

lol this troll is back, didnt he get banned back in 2013 for being one of Project_NatalFan alt-accounts?

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#34 Bruin1986
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When did people adopt this notion that linear games are somehow, by default, inferior to "open world" games?

Many of the best games in history have been 100% linear.

I don't even own a PS4 yet but I'm probably picking one up soon.

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#35  Edited By 22Toothpicks
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Looks better than previous entries in the series but that's not saying much for me as I can't stand the games. Seems to be much more open and alive with activity than before. Graphics ain't half bad either.

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#36  Edited By uninspiredcup
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If you want to watch a movie buy Uncharted, if you wish to play mechanically masterful gameplay, buy Zelda.

The choice is very simples. (It's Zelda).

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#37 ImBatman-
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According to Geof Keighley the 2nd half of this demo is even better than what we saw.

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#38 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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Graphics were underwhelming from what I was hoping to see. Gameplay was pretty spot on for the series. I might pick it up on a sale when PS4 drops in price. Hopefully it turns out better than Uncharted 3.

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#39 X_CAPCOM_X
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Linearity does not make a game bad. In many cases it's actually ideal.

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#40 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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I think we saw from the first set of gameplay that it'll have more open areas that require stealth, traversal etc. It's very tough to get the sense of openness through the PR footage, only No Man's Sky made a bit of an effort to show it's scale across any of the games i've seen.

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#41  Edited By drekula2
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The graphics are really good, as you'd expect, but it just lacks the heart and personality of the earlier Uncharted games.

The game play is really generic as all shit. Gears of war clone followed by a substandard humvee chase.

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#42  Edited By gago-gago
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Uncharted games have always been linear to really showcase the graphics, most Sony games are. Nothing's wrong with linear unless they flop like what's that one PS4 game that flopped called again, I can't believe I actually forgot the name, hold on lemme google. Oh man, I can't remember the name right now and don't know what to look for online lol. Is that third person PS4 shooter game that has QTE and crap that's very linear. Anyway so far recently games like Shadow of Mordor last year and Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Battlefront seem to be GOTY material and they're open world. So we'll see how Uncharted 4 shapes up.

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#43  Edited By GreySeal9
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@demon-returns said:
@Evo_nine said:

yawn same old shit with ps3 graphics.

can we have something new? please?

says the guy with a mortal kombat avatar lol..... people never cease to amaze me. Humankind is doomed

Regardless of his avatar, he's kind of right (tho these are not PS3 graphics). This is definitely the same old shit. Which is not a bad thing per se, but let's be real.

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#44 GreySeal9
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@gago-gago said:

Uncharted games have always been linear to really showcase the graphics, most Sony games are. Nothing's wrong with linear unless they flop like what's that one PS4 game that flopped called again, I can't believe I actually forgot the name, hold on lemme google. Oh man, I can't remember the name right now and don't know what to look for online lol. Is that third person PS4 shooter game that has QTE and crap that's very linear. Anyway so far recently games like Shadow of Mordor last year and Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Battlefront seem to be GOTY material and they're open world. So we'll see how Uncharted 4 shapes up.

You're thinking about The Order.

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#45  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Depends can you climb the rest of this little house/shack shits like he did in the demo? I'm sure you're still being directed during stretches, but Uncharted is usually good at set pieces. If it can compliment those with good moment to moment action that is more opened up like the ones we saw initially for this game than both demos show the games proper yin-yang thing going on. Either one without the other would get tiring.

The larger issue is that it's another fucking Uncharted game. I'd be more worried if this was like a Sucker Punch game or something, their games are shit. Naughty Dog's stuff is at least good.

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@Nengo_Flow said:

how can you hate on this game and that awsome demo?

Jesus Christ...

Who cares if its linear... it seems the only time "linear is a bad thing is when we are talking about Uncharted. how about muthah fucking Gears of War? Halo? the **** is wrong with you morons?

yup, i agree, definitely the best game out of sony's E3.

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this series just doesn't wow me anymore

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@heretrix said:

It'll be ok. It's not like you had much choice in the last 2 games. Uncharted is a linear experience by design.

It's what it is.

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#49  Edited By happyduds77
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It's going to be linear(nothing wrong with that) but more open than your typical linear game with vertical level design as shown in the trailers.

This years E3 demo felt generic for the most part. Apart from the destructible environment which was pretty neat nothing new or exciting was shown. But I still have faith in Naughty Dog, they will deliver. Hope they release a story trailer soon, I really want to see Chloe and Elena in their 1080p next gen form.

Edit: I'm pretty sure the driving section is going to be scripted to a certain extent they aren't going to allow the player to wander around freely. Uncharted 4 is a story focused game they are going to prioritize pacing than players freedom. Plus I hardly think PS4 can handle that.

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#50  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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Yeah I was disappointed with the showing at Sony's Conference. I know I'm that guy that relentlessly hates on Uncharted 2, but I loved the Last of Us and thought the first gameplay showing for Uncharted 4 was a huge an welcome improvement. This showing felt like a reskinned Uncharted 2.

At least it wasn't as bad as the showing for Tomb Raider. HOLY CRAP, it doesn't get much worse than that.