Xbox is locking out Gamepass games from competitor's subscription services

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#1  Edited By loudheadphones
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Big info that got revealed in an unredacted document, they are signing deals to keep games out from other subscriptions than Gamepass

So, but Sony blocked RE VIII from Gamepass, right? Sony is bad. :/

Anyway, this is standard practice for marketing deals, especially if said marketing deal includes and agreement (or first dibs) for that game to appear on subscription services. That's all. All sides are doing that

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#2  Edited By daredevils2k
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Man this just keeps getting worse for MS. First emails about buying up the gaming industry to shut down Sony, and now this . I’m pretty sure FTC has a good case against MS at this point .

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#3 Jolyyoljogger
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Pretty standard practice

More news at 11

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#4 Pedro
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@jolyyoljogger said:

Pretty standard practice

More news at 11

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#5  Edited By Antwan3K
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i thought cows don't like subscriptions services and don't believe in Day One releases for those services.. 🤔

yay?.. 🤷‍♂️

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@daredevils2k: Well, that's why you are known for being clueless and butthurt 24/7.

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#7 pyro1245
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Sony and MS are pathetic.

They care mostly about making sure certain groups can't play games.

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#8  Edited By hardwenzen
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Truly wish a local lemming could tell me why Microsoft has been so pathetic since 2018. This is simply not normal in my eyes.

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#9 Nonstop-Madness
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People need to realize all of the "shady" things these companies do are just standard operating practices.

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#10 Pedro
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

People need to realize all of the "shady" things these companies do are just standard operating practices.

Sony has mastered the art form.😎

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#11 gotgames
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Everyone with common business sense knows that. Only fanboys didn’t know that. I was attacked when I said MS is doing the same like Sony.

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#12 lamprey263
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Sony locks games not on their subscription service from competitor subscription services.

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#13 onesiphorus
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

People need to realize all of the "shady" things these companies do are just standard operating practices.

As long as these "shady" practices are not illegal, they will continue to do them (unless there is a huge public uproar against them).

I had to wonder whether shady business practices should be illegal or not as most of them are of moral or ethical concerns. Should moraliy or ethics be legislated?

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And the usual marble brain lemmings in here with their SonyToo spins. Absolutely embarrassing lmao

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#15 Pedro
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This case is causing meltdowns in the Sony faction.😂

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#16  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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The console industry is filthy business. Can't think of a good reason to be cheering on any of these practices. That sure as hell isn't in my interests.

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#17 Litchie
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Doesn't Microsoft understand that it's only ok when Sony does it?

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#18 MegaNorm64
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I always found this to be quite funny. What is stopping Activision Blizzard from giving Microsoft any type of exclusivity? Developers choose where they want to put their games, so Sony being scared of Activision becoming a Microsoft exclusive company is pointless when in reality, they could choose to do that at any time. Activision just proved it.

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#19  Edited By Mesome713
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Dang, how these two companies get away with doing this to tiny toy company called Nintendo.

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#20  Edited By Saint-George
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if you cant beat em,join em!

I always think its best to be critical of the gaming company you cheer for before throwing muck at others.Cringe worthy fanpeople keeping it real

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#21 Djoffer123
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Is this really news to anybody??

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#22 SecretPolice
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Kooky cows I tellz you what. lol :P

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#23 iambatman7986
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Yeah, practices like this are only okay when Sony does it. Who does MS think they are with this whole doing things to try to be competitive with the competition. If someone it's okay with sony paying for exclusivity to a console, they should have no problem with MS paying for exclusivity on a subscription service.

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#24 blaznwiipspman1
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Why should MS put their games on a competing subscription platform. That makes no sense. MS offered to put gamepass on ps5 and nintendo, which they refused.

Its like asking Disney plus to put their marvel and star wars shows on Netflix.

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#25  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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@blaznwiipspman1: I'm pretty sure they're talking about third party content here.

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#26 KvallyX
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Damn, Sony is on a lying rampage. Sony keeps burying itself deeper and deeper. I wouldn't be surprised if PlayStation closed up shop after this merger.

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@gotgames said:

Everyone with common business sense knows that. Only fanboys didn’t know that. I was attacked when I said MS is doing the same like Sony.

I'm sorry to hear that. lol

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@loudheadphones said:

Big info that got revealed in an unredacted document, they are signing deals to keep games out from other subscriptions than Gamepass

So, but Sony blocked RE VIII from Gamepass, right? Sony is bad. :/

Anyway, this is standard practice for marketing deals, especially if said marketing deal includes and agreement (or first dibs) for that game to appear on subscription services. That's all. All sides are doing that

Does MS block them forever? Do they lock 3rd party games out of other platforms?

@randy_lahey said:

And the usual marble brain lemmings in here with their SonyToo spins. Absolutely embarrassing lmao

You got that $100 ready?

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@kvallyx: So long as Sony remains the antithesis of Nintendo, that is not gonna happen.

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#30  Edited By Pedro
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@dabear said:

@randy_lahey said:

And the usual marble brain lemmings in here with their SonyToo spins. Absolutely embarrassing lmao

You got that $100 ready?

His reaction

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#31 gotgames
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@worlds_apart: fanboys are from a different planet

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#32 jeffbuckley1
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This isnt about consoles sold. Microsoft is all about cloud gaming and sony is dragging their heels

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#33 shellcase86
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Oh, this is getting good!

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#34 arkephonic
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Last time I checked, these companies are direct competitors with the #1 goal of winning and beating the other. It's a cutthroat business. They aren't trying to make sure all gamers have access to all games regardless of platform, they want to bring people to their platforms. These aren't charities. If given the option, both Sony and Microsoft would monopolize the entire industry if they had a choice.

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#35 loudheadphones
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@dabear said:
@loudheadphones said:

Big info that got revealed in an unredacted document, they are signing deals to keep games out from other subscriptions than Gamepass

So, but Sony blocked RE VIII from Gamepass, right? Sony is bad. :/

Anyway, this is standard practice for marketing deals, especially if said marketing deal includes and agreement (or first dibs) for that game to appear on subscription services. That's all. All sides are doing that

Does MS block them forever? Do they lock 3rd party games out of other platforms?

@randy_lahey said:

And the usual marble brain lemmings in here with their SonyToo spins. Absolutely embarrassing lmao

You got that $100 ready?

Yes! Titanfall for example and all Bethesda games.

Mask has fallen

Those were the words of Philochio Spencer in a conversation between Spencer and Stuart regarding Zenimax IPs exclusivity.

Tim Stuart:Wish we could just go out and say we were taking it allexclusive at this point.

Phil Spencer: Your words sure did stir up a lot of stuff.

Phil Spencer: We can’t say that.

Lawyers press Stuart: This was when Spencer made the decision on exclusivity. Stuart to a colleague: "Not just new IP but ALL games going forward? Wow."

Lawyer: "You wrote 'wow' because that would be a very big decision communicated to you that Spencer made, right?

Stuart: "I suppose so."

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#36 Pedro
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Sony fannies crying about PS5 exclusion.😂 Pure comic gold.

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#37 dabear
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@loudheadphones: Future Bethesda games are 1st party.

I don't see Naughty Dog releasing games on Xbox.

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#38  Edited By loudheadphones
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@loudheadphones: Future Bethesda games are 1st party.

I don't see Naughty Dog releasing games on Xbox.

And all previous IPs are now 1st party too. Fallout 76 is MS 1st party game. And recently F76 got an 60fps update for PS5. MS bought them. LOL Nice try to spin with Naughty Dog. Whatever you meant with that.

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How long ago did they officially announce this game?

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@pyro1245 said:

Sony and MS are pathetic.

They care mostly about making sure certain groups can't play games.

They're both as bad as each other really.

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#41 GameboyTroy
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Microsoft accidentally reveals the sales numbers for the Xbox Series X|S. They sold 21 million units of the Xbox Series X|S.

Xbox Series X|S Sales Surpass 21 Million Units Globally, Microsoft Seemingly Accidentally Reveals

https://wccftech.com/xbox-series-xs-sales-surpass-21-million-units-globally-microsoft-seemingly-accidanrly-reveals/

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#42 gotgames
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Sony got so much crap. Now it’s common practice by business. I can’t believe how much I was attacked by Xbox fanboys when i said MS is doing the same. I was told I have no proof, i am making stuff up etc. anyone in streaming services dose that to make their service Look attractive. MS is running the gaming industry.

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#43 pyro1245
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pyro1245 said:

Sony and MS are pathetic.

They care mostly about making sure certain groups can't play games.

They're both as bad as each other really.

Yep.

The big companies who are taking these deals are part of the problem too. A company like Squeenix should strive for more than a single platform and a fat check as part of risk mitigation on behalf of its share holders.

It's one thing to spend resources to increase the value of your platform by funding the development of games that otherwise would not have otherwise been made, but Sony and MS have aggressively been spending resources to de-value other platforms at the expense of gamers.

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#44  Edited By cainetao11
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Two can play that game