Can this system even handle 3D graphics? Arkham Knight on the Switch is a disaster.

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#1  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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So much for that gameplay>graphics. Try to enjoy a game that looks like this, be immersed in the word. Its simply not a thing that is possible, unless you have no standards, and this is as good as you've ever seen.

Lots of people consider the Switch as the best Nintendo system ever made, but the system isn't even capable of running 360 games🤣The only reason why they keep releasing these titles on the Switch is because they know for a fact that the system has zero standards, so any dumpster fire is good enough.

Mobile gaming on a Nintendo system is the worst kind of experience that gaming can offer in 2023. There is simply nothing worse. Its THE bottom of the barrel.

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#2 xhawk27
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Still upset that the Switch outsold the PS4? 😆

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I feel like waiting a bit and releasing a more straightforward port of the PS4/XB1 makes more sense....

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#4  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@xhawk27 said:

Still upset that the Switch outsold the PS4? 😆

To be "still" mad about it, you had to be bothered by it in the first place. Wish your sales helped the ps2 textures and frame rate in the low 20's.

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I feel like waiting a bit and releasing a more straightforward port of the PS4/XB1 makes more sense....

I feel like never playing it again. All the Arkham games are stylistically ugly, casual and don't feel like Batman.

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#6 xhawk27
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@hardwenzen: zelda, Mario all look great! You are mad that the Switch 2 will destroy PiS5 sells! 😂

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@hardwenzen: zelda, Mario all look great! You are mad that the Switch 2 will destroy PiS5 sells! 😂

You named two games that can run on a Wii from 2006. Are you OK?

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#8 Robertos
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Console tech is trash. low fps low gfx. I stick with GodC.

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Not even Xbox and PS4 Pro could handle this game. Switch getting another amazing port.

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Arkham Knight is a PS4 game. There was never a 360 or PS3 build. It was also very much a PS4 game through and through. The X1 version was not as good and the PC version launched in such a poor state that it was pulled from sale. Good ol brute force is needed to get over the issues with the PC build. The games code base is known the be a bit of a dumpster fire. About 5 people at Rocksteady know how it works :P j/k.

It also remains one of the best looking games on last gen systems. There are even videos mocking Gotham Knights and comparing it to Arkham Knight. The latter does not flatter.

So all in all having the game running in any state is a feat in and of itself.

But yeah...it's really rough still. No getting around it. Definitely not the recommended way to play the game. The driving sections especially are a disaster. MVG shows it running on an overclocked switch and, even at 2.5GHz ish on the CPU, the game still has that intermittent stutter. No idea what causes it though....i'm speculating its garbage collection but that's a shot in the dark on my part. I was also thinking the CPU couldn't keep up with loading assets but the overclocked CPU not really improving the chugging does put a bit of a damper on that theory.

Hopefully they can patch it but it's hard to say how much WB are willing to pay for post launch support. I hear mixed messages on Asylum and City but the fact those are not perfect does show that this is more of a quick dump for a buck.

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DF is disgusted by the game. So much so that they're saying it shouldn't exist. Never have they said anything remotely close when talking about the X or the PS5. Only mobile gaming offers this much misery.

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@hardwenzen: They said same thing when it released on PC, PS4, and Xbox One.

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#13  Edited By lamprey263
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Hardly surprising though, it's an 8th gen designed game and Switch is only a fraction of the GPU performance of the XB1/PS4, it'd only be successfully ported to Switch through a rigorous redesign that they'd probably never go to such lengths to make happen. At best, perhaps the 7th gen Arkham Trilogy (Asylum, City, Origins) would be doable. Even there the question would be would they be reworking the 7th gen versions for Switch or porting the 8th gen remasters.

Anyhow, not surprised. I won't bad mouth Switch for this, more like what we're the developers and publishers thinking even trying. I'd be curious if Rocksteady planned to spend more time making a Switch tailored port and whether that got cut short due to issues with the Suicide Squad GaaS game.

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#14  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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You know there's no respect toward Nintendo fans when this is what they consider is good enough to charge money for. They're abusing you, sheep.

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@hardwenzen: They said same thing when it released on PC, PS4, and Xbox One.

They just said it in the video above that the broken pc version was like a masterpiece at launch when compared to the Switch version. A masterpiece🤣🤣🤣

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#16  Edited By Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: People laughed at the PC, PS4, and Xbox poor frames too. People still bought it. Graphics are gimmicks.

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@hardwenzen: People laughed at the PC, PS4, and Xbox poor frames too. People still bought it. Graphics are gimmicks.

Compared to the Switch version, they were masterpieces. This is how low the standards are for your mobile device that can't handle 3d visuals.

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Gaming on a Nintendo system.

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#19  Edited By Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: Everyone enjoyed Spiderman at 30fps too. People just dont care for graphical gimmicks. The fact Switch can provide this game to fans just shows how amazing this device is. Not even PC and PS4 Pro could handle this game.

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@hardwenzen: Everyone enjoyed Spiderman at 30fps too. People just dont care for graphical gimmicks. The fact Switch can provide this game to fans just shows how amazing this device is. Not even PC and PS4 Pro could handle this game.

Nobody is talking about spiderman or whatever other game you're trying to move the goalpost to🤡Its about Arkham Knight, and your favorite system is so weak, it can't handle an incredibly old game that is already running below Ultra Low visuals.

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#21  Edited By Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: Not even PC and PS4 Pro could either. Well take this win with pride.

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@hardwenzen: Not even PC and PS4 Pro could either. Well take this win with pride.

No systems outside of Nintendo are running titles with ps2 textures in 2023.

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Shouldn’t have even been attempted to bring it to switch.

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#25  Edited By Mesome713
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@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: Not even PC and PS4 Pro could either. Well take this win with pride.

No systems outside of Nintendo are running titles with ps2 textures in 2023.

Bro acting like The Lord of the Rings – Gollum for PS5 doesnt exist. This port looks 10 times better than that PS5 trash.

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#26  Edited By pixieValerie
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And they had delayed it too to give it extra polish.

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Extremely tragic. I will reflect on this very sad bit of news.

Ok, all done reflecting. Feel much better now.

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@mesome713 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: Not even PC and PS4 Pro could either. Well take this win with pride.

No systems outside of Nintendo are running titles with ps2 textures in 2023.

Bro acting like The Lord of the Rings – Gollum for PS5 doesnt exist. This port looks 10 times better than that PS5 trash.

This is so bad that they want to compare it to the worst ps3 ports we've seen. Its the worst port in generations. Only on the Switch will you see such quality being sold to the public.

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Looks the same as the other games not designed for then downgraded to run on Switch.

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Uuuf. Just saw the DF video....really poor. This whole package clearly shouts "no f&^%s given here!". Knight also has long pauses and crashing. That's really really bad. That is actually unplayable.

I thought AA and AC at least worked well but...well...no. Not really. A lot better than Arkham Knight...but still a miss. Goes to show how much care actually went into this port overall.

Knight was always going to be a tough port job in fairness: but City and Asylum at 1080P should be a very solid and consistent 30FPS on the Switch. WB must have paid the porting house and 3.50 and told them to get it out the door in 6 months.

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#32  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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It's not just the PS2 quality graphics but it seems unplayable with all of that stuttering. I can't imagine those sequences where you have to race and dodge with the Batmobile (like the Riddler trials). No matter how good you are, your timing and reactions are going to be messed up with all that hitching. Apparently one of the minigames is completely missing the cursors you use to highlight objects you're looking for, so it is pure luck if you complete it. I wonder if it will even be possible to finish the game?

It's unfortunate that 2/3rds of the games must be downloaded when you buy the cartridge version. According to GameSpot, a download code will be used for the other two games, which means that sharing the game with your siblings to use on their console or lending it to friends will be restricted or impossible.

They weren't forced to release this on Switch so I wonder why they did, instead of waiting for the next Nintendo hardware.

😲 This looks like trying to run the game on an old laptop with integrated GPU where it does not even meet minimum specs... except that the Switch is supposed to be an officially supported system. How can they even put this out? There's a difference between expecting lower performance on lower spec hardware and just... feeling like you're using the beta version of an emulator or something.

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"In today's news. Games are performing poorly on weaker hardware. Stay tuned for more updates on this devastating reality."😂

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#34 hrt_rulz01
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Lmao, stay salty.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lmao, stay salty.

Bro, your system has a lot of trouble in 2023.

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#36 Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: Yeah, like 3 GOTYs to come out on it in 2023 trouble.

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@hardwenzen: Yeah, like 3 GOTYs to come out on it in 2023 trouble.

More like ZERO gotys cuz BG3 is winning it, and that game will never be on your Switch. Just like ER, the Switch can't even run its title screen.

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@hardwenzen: lol, switch is demolishing remaster station. All the new and innovative games, meanwhile ps5 getting movie games and remasters of tlou.

Arkham isn't even an Xbox 360 game, it's ps4 and Xbox 1 level. Switch is on the level of Xbox 360 and ps3. I expect this game to run well on switch 2 if there's BC.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen: lol, switch is demolishing remaster station. All the new and innovative games, meanwhile ps5 getting movie games and remasters of tlou.

Arkham isn't even an Xbox 360 game, it's ps4 and Xbox 1 level. Switch is on the level of Xbox 360 and ps3. I expect this game to run well on switch 2 if there's BC.

Bro, you haven't used your Switch in ages, i can't take you seriously.

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That looks fucking awful

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@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: Yeah, like 3 GOTYs to come out on it in 2023 trouble.

More like ZERO gotys cuz BG3 is winning it, and that game will never be on your Switch. Just like ER, the Switch can't even run its title screen.

We dont need games barely anyone plays and ones people forget about after a month.

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#42  Edited By Heil68
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@boiled-hotdug said:

That looks fucking awful

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2 gens ago, that's all we had and it looked great.

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@hardwenzen: wii can not run tears of the kingdom let alone botw. Your delusional if you think so

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@mariokart64fan said:

@hardwenzen: wii can not run tears of the kingdom let alone botw. Your delusional if you think so

And the Switch "runs" them? 22fps is not what i'd consider running. Ultra blurry visuals from 2002 is also not what i'd consider as the game running, but here we are, it was released, and this is OK for Nintendo standards. So if they were released on the Wii running in 280p, it'd be perfectly acceptable for Nintendo standards.

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All for the sake of portability, I guess. I had rather play games on the good ol' SNES.

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@pmanden said:

All for the sake of portability, I guess. I had rather play games on the good ol' SNES.

The "for the sake of portability" is only a valid excuse for titles released between 2017 and 2019. For years now, this thing is incapable of running games, like not at all. There are no other systems where you'd see a game launch in this state (excluding kickstarter titles on pc that is, but those are not made by multi million dollars companies).

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@xhawk27 said:

Still upset that the Switch outsold the PS4? 😆

Well to be frank, the ps4 competing platform from Nintendo was the Wii-U, and we all know how that turned out.

🤷‍♀️

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@ermacness said:
@xhawk27 said:

Still upset that the Switch outsold the PS4? 😆

Well to be frank, the ps4 competing platform from Nintendo was the Wii-U, and we all know how that turned out.

🤷‍♀️

Well, we all know that is false. Not sure why you needed to take the desperate route.😂

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@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: Everyone enjoyed Spiderman at 30fps too. People just dont care for graphical gimmicks. The fact Switch can provide this game to fans just shows how amazing this device is. Not even PC and PS4 Pro could handle this game.

At least Spiderman actually held a solid 30fps! This a a total joke of a port. Even the other games in the trilogy don't run great either and they were on the 360 and PS3! It's not about the graphics, this port is literally unplayable.

As for the PC, my current rig handles Arkham Knight just fine.