@pyro1245 said:
@Gatygun said:
Any dev that states they lose money or its even better to pirate there game are lying through there teeth because pirating doesn't give them money even remotely and people buying and selling off keys from different country's still yields them money.
Not true. Here's why, explained in the first few minutes:
This is not a key issue, this is a bank issue. Like i stated before. Your banks are complete and utter outdated and offer zero protection for the sellers of products and victims of credit card fraud.
This is like saying, well hardcopy's of games are bad because i can buy a shop full of games on this stolen creditcard, let it get shipped to a shady adress and resell it to other retailers or outlets or people on the dark web without issue's. Now the devs go bankrupt because the retailer refunds his paid money for those copy's from the devs that sold him those copy's.
It's the dumbest logic i ever saw.
G2A having a protection plan isn't a scam, its what they offer and its what u can get. He going rampant on that shit is just idiotic because he clearly never used key sites to start with. Every single one of them has a protection plan because its free money.
What is the reality when u buy a key however without a protection plan? well here you go:
What happens when u guy sold 50k keys on the website and has good rating that starts to sell keys that don't work? he gets bad ratings and bad comments and gets avoided. They will always replace the key with a working key no matter what to prevent this from happening because otherwise they lose consumers and lose rating which is all they care for. Every single site does this and i had a few keys that didn't work all got replaced perfectly fine without protection plans. It's just a idiot trap.
That G2A holds the money from the illigal reseller is scummy and they should adress that but still G2A isn't CD keys its a shop that sells cdkeys. So saying all resellers are scummy because what G2A does is also false logic.
It's like saying gamestop sold a game that was used so all games must be used that are new from every outlet.
About credit/debitcards.
As somebody that owns a debit card i can tell you this, this is how buying works.
1) U buy the money is gone simple as that, consumer rights protect you if a product u buy isn't good and the company has to pay it back as result. Buying stuff from shady sites or shady company's outside of the boarders that's all yolo and on you.
2) I have a number i have to put in every single time with a device to make a purchase, as extra security check.
3) I cannot go into the red basically -, i can only withdraw 500 a day max, i want 2k in my hands? gotta do it over 4 days period and i can only go up to 2k at max a week. That prevents me if i got scammed to go into the hole.
4) whenever i make a purchase or withdraw and it reaches the max of what i can i get a message on my phone about it.
This means if somebody steals my code + debitcard he cannot do much with it. this also means that retailers that this guy buys stuff with from my debitcard don't have to return the money because its easy covered by either my bank or even myself through extra insurance and savings.
5) Having a separate bank account to go to shady content isn't uncommon with even higher limitations.
Conclusion
Keys aren't the issue and resellers of it, its your bank systems that are easily exploited. If i was a dev i wouldn't even accept creditcards to start with if it means there are charge backs. Or i would support it and up the price massively just for those cards.
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