NYC mayor goes off on illegal aliens (will destroy NYC)

Eric Adam's mayor of NYC is getting stressed out by the influx of illegal aliens sent to NYC which is a "Sanctuary City". He says this crisis will destroy the city.

Pretty funny because he literally dealing with a fraction of a fraction of what places like Texas are dealing with. The numbers of illegals are nothing compared to Texas. Eric Adam's is requesting Billions in aid from Bidens administration to help with the issue. Good luck Adam's, they don't give shit to Texas why would they give money to you

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Eric Adams is a joke and has been since elected.

Asylum seekers are NOT illegal aliens. 🙄

There is no vetting process to prove who's a legitimate asylum seeker

They are not, by law, illegal.

@sargentd: What solution is Adams calling for, Sargent?

@mattbbpl: for the FED to give NY Billions of dollars or to force Texas to keep the illegals in Texas

Texas gets Fed money. If Texas is going to send them to NY, then NY should get the money.

If you're an Asylum seeking city this is what you get. Change your policies or accept responsibility.

Yes but Texas is a huuuuuuuuuuge amount of land filled with all manner of cities and towns and so on and so forth, with a large agricultural industry that actually benefits from immigration (legal or otherwise), whereas NYC is an already-cramped city with nothing for immigrants to really do except cost the city and state money.

In other words, apples and orange.

With that said, I suppose I can understand the schadenfreude you're feeling seeing the pro-immigrant side bitching about immigrants 😋😂

NYC controls most the money in the state. No town on the texas border comes close to the kind of capital and resources NYC has.

So NYC doesn't have any entry level jobs available??? No manual labor jobs in one of the largest cities in the country??? Nothing? Lol... they certainly ly have more housing than any border town would. And hey.. they did say they were a Sanctuary City willing to provide for any who came.. Texas atleast is straight up saying.. no!! We don't have the resources for these people!!

The irony here..can't believe I'm saying this..

you sound bigoted.. like the only work these people can do is pick vegetables or some shit lol...

NY has a lot of farmland outside the city.. but there's less "resources" anyway out in rural America for these people

That's not what he's saying:

Central to what Adams is asking for is expediting work authorizations, so that people who are already in New York City would be able to get legal jobs and wouldn't be forced to rely on the social safety net.

But the process for applying for asylum and a work permit is based on current immigration laws, which require a 150-day waiting period to apply for work authorization and an additional 30 days to be eligible for approval - and in recent years, it's made more difficult because of an immense backlog.

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No I'm just saying logistics-wise you're comparing THE ENTIRE state of Texas--where land is cheap, there's lots of room, and it's essentially half-Hispanic as it is--to the teeny tiny city of New York, where everything is expensive and there's not really a lot of places to go.

It's just not a good comparison nor a fair one to make.

Competition is high in NYC for born US citizens, let alone immigrants; less so in Texas.

If you're going to put immigrants somewhere, it might as well be where a.) they're needed, b.) there's more opportunity, and c.) it will benefit both sides.

I know it sounds bigoted but sorry not sorry living in California my whole life you see the Central Valley where some towns are basically 100% Hispanic, and it's all agriculture. Yes obviously immigrants can do anything (my cousin married one and she is a lawyer) but going by trends and demographics a lot of immigrants will work in restaurants, service industry, or agriculture. There's a lot more of that in, again, the entire state of Texas than there is in NYC.

I don't like political theater and treating it like it's a sport where we are rivals, and I will always [try to] be pragmatic; immigration is good for the state of Texas and immigrant alike, whereas shipping them off to NYC is bad for both.

Could give two shits if the mayor is a Republican or Democrat or Communist. This isn't about politics until it is forced to be; this is about fucking with innocent people simply because they crossed a border, and that's wrong.

If Texas wants to look a gift horse in the mouth and ship their immigrants to "asylum cities" in an act of political point scoring, then those cities should a.) get more funding, and b.) Texas should get less funding. And remember, we live in a country where Red states get more funding and contribute less to the economy than blue states.

hochul is asking for similar thing. speed up work authorizations for these people.

Seems the only reasonable solution is to stop accepting asylum seekers. I've seen these people ruin entire cities.

@mrbojangles25: having been raised on a farm in New Mexico and currently living in Texas, I question the "gift horse" mentality. Unless you hire people for much less than minimum wage it is usually cheaper and more efficient to use heavy equipment over entry level manual labor. For example, you can buy a couple dozen gallons of weed killer and spray a field much quicker, cheeper, and with better results than hiring people to weed the fields manually.

To be fair, things may have changed since I left my parent's farm since organic certified crops are more in demand. But a quick Google search shows that organic farming is biggest in California, Maine, and surprisingly New York.

Entering the country illegally entering the country make you an illegall alien. All illegal entering the country are taught to say they are seeking asylum which makes your point mote.

Ask and you shall receive. The mayor wanted them and now received and continues to receive them. He needs to be very careful with his wishes. Apparently, it isn't fun when you are being inundated with people who shouldn't be here in the first place.

Ah, I see we've decided to ignore what he's requesting and just continue to rant about a made up scenario. Wonderful.

This is Eric Adams we're talking about. A Republican disguised as a Dem. Like Tulsi Gabbard, Jared Kushner and Kyrsten Sinema before him.

By law, asylum seekers are NOT illegal. Cry more.

@comp_atkins: @mattbbpl: @LJS9502_basic:

Just curious

Are any of you guys open to just deporting these people back to their home country?

Also, do you believe in borders?

SargentD doesn't know anything about the law. He made this clear in the Trump Legal Problems thread.

They all proved you wrong and the thread backfired. It's in your best interest if you stop bumping this.

Better yet, ask if they'd be fine with someone coming into their home w/o permission and then being forced to care for them.

They don't even have spaceships.

As of now some are asking for that lol...

@sargentd ran away from this fact check.

@robertos: quit crying zariya

@sargentd

You made multiple false claims in this thread and were fact checked. The random far right youtuber you just linked doesn't change that.

All I'm asking is you should research simple laws and statements before posting, it will end up making you get in less embarrassing situations over here.

@robertos: nothing was "fact checked". Yes he's asking to change immigration laws to allow faster work visas. But that in no way takes away FROM EVERYTHING ELSE HE SAID.

Chicago just like NYC not happy being a "Sanctuary City".

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Not even if she stood on the steps of the old north church and admitted she is a traitor. Housing complete foreign strangers (I mean invaders) whom virtually nothing is known. What could possibly go wrong, right? I wonder how many she took in and I do hope it is more than one.

@robertos: it is a crime to enter the country illegally and not at a designated port of entry.

Of course not.

Of course, yes.

I don't know why you'd think otherwise given our responses, I assume it's just a desperate attempt to change the focus of the conversation given how it has played out.

Lol.. played out how?? You haven't said much of anything.

You and Zariya pretending the only thing being said is "NY wants work visas approved faster"... well they have always had a waiting period. Why change them now just because NYC now has illegal aliens?

If anything it's you guys skirting the main issue and instead trying to focus on one smaller part of the bigger issue.

Is him wanting to integrate them into society faster the point you were trying to make? Is that your stance as well?

I guess everyone who wants to illegally enter the country is an asylum seeker to you. There are tons of people in this world, and they all want to come here for various reasons, but most of all its economic. I don't blame them at all for wanting to, but we need to also think about how thats affecting people who are living here, the citizens of the country.

This problem is just going to get worse over the decades as human caused global warming makes many of these poor countries literally unlivable shitholes.

Honestly, the only way to fix this issue is to help out these poorer countries, help improve their infrastructure, provide them with technology, shore up their food supply and more. Sadly, its not that simple, because of all the corrupt people and corrupt governments. You can just look at many african, middle eastern countries where dictators, rebel groups and religious fanatics run things. Heck even in the USA and the rest of the west, there are many bureaucratic layers, each one more corrupt than the other, all using different laws and regulations for their own benefit.

The main point being made by the mayor is that it's unsustainable and will crush NY. You focusing on one point said that can help the situation does not erase the main point.

@sargentd: Sure it does! His point is that preventing them from integrating is unsustainable, not that taking in legal immigrants is unsustainable. The two are not the same.

Work visas are not going to fix this problem. There are only but so much entry jobs for these people, it is not sustainable. Not to mention the public services and housing required. They aren't going to stop coming into the country illegal. Illegal immigrants aren't going to create hospitals, schools, jobs and housing.

@mattbbpl: also... how can you not believe in deportation at all while also believing in borders. If anyone who enters illegally.. Is guaranteed to work and live here even without going through the proper channels... then there are no borders.. it's a free for all

@sargentd: Once again, these are legal immigrants, lol.

And you're right. There's currently a shortage of jobs. There are only so many to go around, and when they're gone, they're gone.

They took 'r' jobs!

@sargentd: Your question was: "Are any of you guys open to just deporting these people back to their home country?"

That does not mean: "not believe in deportation at all"

These are legal immigrants.

These are people who illegally crossed and did not go through proper channels of immigration. By your reasoning there is no such thing as "illegally" entering the country. By your reasoning it's always legal entry no matter what. You don't actually believe in borders.

Who counts as an illegal immigrant to you?

@sargentd: They are asylum seekers, going through the asylum process. This is how it works, and we have international obligations, not to mention ethical obligations, to go through the process.

Anybody can claim to be asylum seekers. When you get caught crossing illegally... who would claim they arent!!!!

Againt who counts as an illegal immigrant???