What if the next step from antivaxxerism is about LICE?

All those who were against Covid safety protocols (social distancing, masking, vaccines) who fought against it because something about their freedom to not let government tell them what to do more important than the greater public's safety.

So, just curious, people tolerate this stupidity for some reason, but would they if this were about lice? What if people fought to go to work and spread lice and nothing the employer can do to stop them from coming in and spreading it at work? What if parents went to courts to fight for the rights of their kids to go to school with it and the school can't compel your kids to delouse? What if people started going into public spaces spreading it onto everyone, bus and trains, movie theaters, restaurants, hair salons. What if doing so became someone's sole purpose in life and nothing nobody can do can stop them?

I always believe that if we are being reckless with other peoples health, we should be held socially accountable for it. If I go to work knowing full well that I have lice, I deserve to be fired for it.

Legal accountability would be way harder to implement for a myriad of reasons (be it political, legal and logistical). So I wouldnt go there.

@Maroxad: I think if an unvaccinated person is found to have spread and caused serious health risks or death to another they, or their parents should be held liable for damages.

@LJS9502_basic: Agreed. Thankfully in Australia there are financial penalties for unvaccinated children entering child care. It's not enough but it's a start.

I think many of my fellow Americans have reached "cutting off our noses to spite our face" levels of ignorance and denial.

• There's a plague. Wait wait wait, no we can't do a vaccine, because freedumb.
• School shootings are the number one cause of death for school kids (used to be cars but we regulate those). Wait, hold up, can't do anything about that, cuz freedumb.
• People are shit talking, lying, and spreading propaganda to the point it's having a huge impact on domestic and international politcs. Hold up, tread softly, don't even consider doing anything...because why? Muh freedums, that's right.

Other places have freedom too and they don't have to deal with the bullshit we have to deal with because of freedom. Ironically, far-right extremists are idolizing autocrats and dictators, and even leaving their homes for less free areas.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is I wouldn't be surprised if the next step is just a general lack of care for oneself and those around them to the point we all get parasites again (in addition to diseases).

I agree, but that's easier said than done when companies and governments are not willing to supplement lost time for work. Who is going to take the 1-2 weeks off of work to become asymptomatic when they don't have the hours to put in for it?

I mean, we can blame people for showing up to work sick, but I don't think we can blame them for showing up, either. AFAIK most Americans that would be harmed by this live paycheck to paycheck.

There's also this blue-collar curse Americans have where we think showing up to work sick and "working through it" is somehow admirable (it's not, btw, I just see this mentality a lot).

Yeah, if you're so fucking stupid to the point that you **** shit up for everyone else for no reason, you're better off dead. Hopefully anti-vaccine people get something deadlier than covid next time.

Make it federal law to have paid sick leave...

I would love that too. If it is legally possible to prove in the court of law.

You know, @horgen, I'm getting reeeeeeeeeally tired of you coming in to these forums and making so much sense. Really sick of it.

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Socialists....

Bro, we are clearly communists. And Satanists, too.

The vacine did not prevent you from contracting COVID, or spreading Covid. A number of people espically young people have had developed life altering medical conditions as a result of the vacine thast is not a vacine. The Department of the Navy has stopped giving the vacine to children because of a large number of them developing Crones. THe vacine has nevre been approved by the FDA it is still being given under the emergency autorization of 2020.

Vaccines did prevent severe cases of covid, which in turn, lessened the impact on hospitals. Do you forget the burden on the medical community during the trump administration? The life altering medical conditions were part of covid as well, and thus contacting covid could, in fact, cause those conditions. FYI, The FDA did approve the vaccine.

Stop getting your information from politicians and talking heads, virtually all of which had the vaccine by the way.

Almost as bad as Soviet. D=

The COVID shot has serious side effects. All drugs have serious side effects. If you watch television when drugs are advertised the side effects are mentioned. This c COVID shot has never listed the side effects. Why? Maybe it is time you start getting information about what is going on instead of just being a parrot and repeating the company line.

Way to miss the point. Covid has long term side effects as well.

When I was a kid there wasn't a debate. Vaccines were required to attend public school. Seems like as we get access to more technology and information people generally become less intelligent or at least willfully ignorant.

Well luckily as a business you can just not hire the idiots who don't get vaccinated. I did a lot of hiring during covid and if your answer to my "are you vaccinated?" question was anything other than a one-word "yes", you did not get a job. I need people with working brains.

Parents should not be allowed to decide when or what vaccines their children get, nor should they have any say on what their children learn in school.

I got both shots for the vaccine and still got Covid 3 times afterwards, my girlfriend never got the vaccine and never caught it even though we live together. I only got it because my work gave me the choice between being fired or getting the vaccine. Those few years during Covid made it hard to trust anything the government said. As they stated at the beginning of the pandemic that cloth masks did absolutely nothing to prevent it and then a few months later they were mandating them everywhere you went, just doesn’t make sense.

Medical science said, the government just tried to get everyone on board to protect society. Also vaccines don't always mean you don't get something. You can get the flu after having a vaccine. What they do is lessen the impact both for the individual and for the strain that unchecked covid caused. Or do you forget how they had bodies stacked up in refrigeration units and hospitals were out of equipment?

Some High School science education will tell you why. It's not big mystery, you people just fell asleep during class orsumin'.

@LJS9502_basic: the “stacks of bodies” were largely elderly people or people with comorbidities. Unfortunately life does end at some point for everyone on this planet and whether it was Covid, flu, or food poisoning something would have caused these people to pass away at some point, just happened a lot of them tested positive for coronavirus when it happened. I have no problem with people getting the vaccine but I don’t think it was rolled out appropriately and the way it was forced on everyone was not right. If you think the government has your best interest I’d suggest reading on some history, plenty of cases of them purposely or knowingly poisoning their population. Native Americans, African Americans, the people of Flint, Michigan, etc.

Absolutely a disgusting comment.

I agree with this ^

No surprise.

The MAGA death cult goes from "yey family values" to "**** old people" really quickly.

@horgen: it's genuinely staggering to me that your country doesn't have paid sick leave or even sufficient annual leave.

This is a pretty heartless comment.

We don't get to just write people off if they're over 70 or something. "Well, they would have died in the next few years anyway" is basically what you're doing right there.

As for your second point of rolling out the vaccine, there are plenty of examples (arguably more) of government helping people. Government would help even more people if we let them but we have self-serving obstructionists in office that are loyal only to their bank accounts and corporate donors.

The problem isn't the government; the problem is the people in government. We have one of the best political systems on the planet and it could work so much better if we let it.

Report: COVID-19 vaccines saved US $1.15 trillion, 3 million lives | CIDRAP (umn.edu)

CDC data does not show that 99% of COVID-19 deaths were due to other causes | AP News

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