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#101  Edited By cyloninside
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watchdogs also confirmed to not look that much better on PC compared to consoles... better draw distances, better AA, better waves apparently... nothing else. there are already tons of comparisons on the net due to people getting the game early tonight.

so much for all that PC master race talk regarding this game. ubisoft makes good games, but i dont really know what people expected...

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#102  Edited By Bikouchu35
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@GTR12 said:

@FelipeInside:

GS is so dead, mods wont even care that this thread is talking about a pirated game, I think that's against ToU anyway.

Do they even enforce ToU anymore minus spam. I mean this is the only "hot" topic so meh better than nothing :\

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#103 GTR12
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@Bikouchu35:

I doubt it, if this topic existed 5yrs ago, we would have all got suspended for even mentioning the subject, now though, meh.

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#104 GeryGo  Moderator
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Report: Just played the entry mission, indoors: 45-60fps, outdoors: 25-60fps

Graphics: everything is maxed except for AA is turned off (ultra textures requires 3Gb VRAM, lucky me)

Graphics Impression: indoor graphics look good, outdoor graphics such light effects look better than GTA5 while others such textures look completely horrible and can't even match GTA5.

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#105  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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@Bikouchu35 said:

@GTR12 said:

@FelipeInside:

GS is so dead, mods wont even care that this thread is talking about a pirated game, I think that's against ToU anyway.

Do they even enforce ToU anymore minus spam. I mean this is the only "hot" topic so meh better than nothing :\

Because people do get games before release dates?

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#106  Edited By GTR12
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@horgen:

We weren't talking of the game itself, rather people mentioning they pirated the game so blatantly.

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#107 horgen  Moderator
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@GTR12 said:

@horgen:

We weren't talking of the game itself, rather people mentioning they pirated the game so blatantly.

Ah, that is against the ToU. I'll go back and read through the thread again when I have time. Have anyone reported them though?

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#108 GTR12
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@horgen:

Can't comment on other people, but I can't report/flag whatever its called now (I've posted to the bug feedback as well).

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#109  Edited By Nick3306
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@cyloninside said:

watchdogs also confirmed to not look that much better on PC compared to consoles... better draw distances, better AA, better waves apparently... nothing else. there are already tons of comparisons on the net due to people getting the game early tonight.

so much for all that PC master race talk regarding this game. ubisoft makes good games, but i dont really know what people expected...

I can deal with the graphics, just having a better draw distance and AA is a huge improvement to me.

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#110  Edited By Ballroompirate
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@horgen said:

@GTR12 said:

@horgen:

We weren't talking of the game itself, rather people mentioning they pirated the game so blatantly.

Ah, that is against the ToU. I'll go back and read through the thread again when I have time. Have anyone reported them though?

While I imagine there are people who pirated Watch Dogs, there are a few who got it legitly from Uplay which apparently they allowed some people to play it early.

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#111 horgen  Moderator
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Ok folks no talk about piracy of this game. Leave it dead. Secondly, if you wish to post spoilers about it, use the spoiler tag.

@GTR12 said:

@horgen:

We weren't talking of the game itself, rather people mentioning they pirated the game so blatantly.

That's no good, but thanks to Klunt who sorta brought this up. I got the time now to look through this thread. I'll delete/edit some posts. Unless there is anything severe, no warnings to people.

@Ballroompirate said:

@horgen said:

@GTR12 said:

@horgen:

We weren't talking of the game itself, rather people mentioning they pirated the game so blatantly.

Ah, that is against the ToU. I'll go back and read through the thread again when I have time. Have anyone reported them though?

While I imagine there are people who pirated Watch Dogs, there are a few who got it legitly from Uplay which apparently they allowed some people to play it early.

Mine was shipped early and should be at my home before release date. If I had lived in Germany I would have had it by now. Whoever shipped it, shipped it early.

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#112 BldgIrsh
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@cyloninside: 900p 30fps compared to 4k 120 FPS. I am sure there is no difference between a PC and a "nex-gen" console.

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#113  Edited By Ut0piA
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I'm currently getting about 45-50fps at 1080p max settings, and I'm still choosing to wait for patches/driver updates. The game doesn't seem to be scaling very well, even low-end PC's are getting nearly the same performance as higher-end rigs.

If the PS4 runs at 900p30 and lower settings, what makes you think I'd want to play that instead?! Keep consoles out of this.

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#114 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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I am running a i5 4670K along with a GTX 780 Ti at 2560x1080 on the highest settings with 2x MSAA and I am getting a solid 50-60FPS... No dips at all.

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#115 danxxx
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Waiting for some Nvidia drivers the game runs like crap.

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#116  Edited By RossRichard
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Most likely driver and optimization issues. I have trouble believing a game that is being ported to 8-year-old consoles is going to stress high-end PC hardware.

This is why I wait for Steam sales to buy AAA games on PC.

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I am running a i5 4670K along with a GTX 780 Ti at 2560x1080 on the highest settings with 2x MSAA and I am getting a solid 50-60FPS... No dips at all.

That moment when all of the i7 owners still got their face down because there's still no use for their 100$ wasted precious money :P

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@PredatorRules said:

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I am running a i5 4670K along with a GTX 780 Ti at 2560x1080 on the highest settings with 2x MSAA and I am getting a solid 50-60FPS... No dips at all.

That moment when all of the i7 owners still got their face down because there's still no use for their 100$ wasted precious money :P

I'm waiting for games to recommend something ala 3930K. Then we are talking business :P

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#119  Edited By deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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And now apparently there's no preload for Watch Dogs on Steam. What the ****?

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#120  Edited By Coseniath
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@horgen said:

@PredatorRules said:

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I am running a i5 4670K along with a GTX 780 Ti at 2560x1080 on the highest settings with 2x MSAA and I am getting a solid 50-60FPS... No dips at all.

That moment when all of the i7 owners still got their face down because there's still no use for their 100$ wasted precious money :P

I'm waiting for games to recommend something ala 3930K. Then we are talking business :P

I am afraid that gaming will not stop at 6core cpus. And we will not see intel six core cpus recommended.

When Haswell-E are going to be released we will have 8-core X99 chipset based CPU and since consoles also have 8 cores, the next optimisation will be at 8cores.

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#121 Addict187
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2500k GTX 670 8gig ram this game on ultra runs like crape. but runs great at normal looks good to. I could care less if i can max games out they look fine on normal settings.

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#122  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@Coseniath said:
@horgen said:

@PredatorRules said:

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I am running a i5 4670K along with a GTX 780 Ti at 2560x1080 on the highest settings with 2x MSAA and I am getting a solid 50-60FPS... No dips at all.

That moment when all of the i7 owners still got their face down because there's still no use for their 100$ wasted precious money :P

I'm waiting for games to recommend something ala 3930K. Then we are talking business :P

I am afraid that gaming will not stop at 6core cpus. And we will not see intel six core cpus recommended.

When Haswell-E are going to be released we will have 8-core X99 chipset based CPU and since consoles also have 8 cores, the next optimisation will be at 8cores.

again consoles dont use all eight cores they have only 6 of them for games. and those six cores total processing power is less then a 2.6 ghz Athlon X4.

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#123 Coseniath
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@04dcarraher said:

@Coseniath said:
@horgen said:

@PredatorRules said:

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I am running a i5 4670K along with a GTX 780 Ti at 2560x1080 on the highest settings with 2x MSAA and I am getting a solid 50-60FPS... No dips at all.

That moment when all of the i7 owners still got their face down because there's still no use for their 100$ wasted precious money :P

I'm waiting for games to recommend something ala 3930K. Then we are talking business :P

I am afraid that gaming will not stop at 6core cpus. And we will not see intel six core cpus recommended.

When Haswell-E are going to be released we will have 8-core X99 chipset based CPU and since consoles also have 8 cores, the next optimisation will be at 8cores.

again consoles dont use all eight cores they have only 6 of them for games. and those six cores total processing power is less then a 2.6 ghz Athlon X4.

again neither PC uses all cores for gaming. DX and Mantle see each CPU differently and uses different threads with each CPU.

But I agree about the power of those 8cores of jaguar architecture from AMD. They cannot beat even a 750K athlon...

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#124 Chakaii
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@bldgirsh said:

@cyloninside: 900p 30fps compared to 4k 120 FPS. I am sure there is no difference between a PC and a "nex-gen" console.

Exactly, well i may not be getting 120 fps but im on a solid 60 fps on ultra, and that is a huge difference from a consoles 30 fps cap :), yes there are some people who say they dont see a difference between 60 & 30 fps lol, not sure if they are serious

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#125  Edited By cyloninside
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@bldgirsh said:

@cyloninside: 900p 30fps compared to 4k 120 FPS. I am sure there is no difference between a PC and a "nex-gen" console.

A. you arent getting 120fps... not even at 1080p.

B. for a game like this, 30fps doesnt make a huge difference.

nice try though.

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#126 Hydrolex
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i5 3750

GTX 670 SLi

runs horrible on Ultra ! Really mad !

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#127 soolkiki
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I highly doubt an I5 is going to chug with this game.

My i5 is clocked at 4.3 Ghz. If anything, it's just my GPU that is going to hold me back. CPUs can take more than many people believe they can.

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#128  Edited By deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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@soolkiki said:
@airshocker said:

I highly doubt an I5 is going to chug with this game.

My i5 is clocked at 4.3 Ghz. If anything, it's just my GPU that is going to hold me back. CPUs can take more than many people believe they can.

Mine is at 4.6 and yes, I agree.

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#129  Edited By Ut0piA
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There's still no CPU in existance that can run GTA 4 @ max settings over 60fps. It's just not possible. If a port is bad enough then nothing will max it out.

If you think there's no potential for i5's to struggle in Watch Dogs, you're in for a rude awakening.

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#130 soolkiki
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@ut0pia said:

There's still no CPU in existance that can run GTA 4 @ max settings over 60fps. It's just not possible. If a port is bad enough then nothing will max it out.

If you think there's no potential for i5's to struggle in Watch Dogs, you're in for a rude awakening.

GTA4 is the perfect example of bad optimization, not weak CPUs. Watchdogs could easily follow in those footsteps, but it won't be because of a few less cores or threads.

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#132  Edited By Alienware_fan
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@Alienware_fan said:

You can change the ini settings to make the game look even more beautiful, better than crysis or anything I have seen. though the fps drops even lower under 30 all the time but still playable.

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#133  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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Got the game today. I'll try it later. :D

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#134  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@GabranthXIII said:

I don't like to baby sit people so here are just some screen, go check them yourself on watch dogs discussion.

He says he's getting dips on low as well as ultra. So this seems like bad optimization more than anything.

Ubisoft never said you need an i7 to play this game, and now it looks like you do.

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#135  Edited By GeryGo  Moderator
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@Hydrolex said:

i5 3750

GTX 670 SLi

runs horrible on Ultra ! Really mad !

Turn AA off, should work fine.

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#136 Coseniath
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Well I think we found out the issues of bad-port/performance with i5/etcetc

Pirated Copies of Watch_Dogs Pack Bitcoin Mining Malware

In what could explain how some "early adopters" (read: people who likely downloaded pirated copies) of Watch_Dogs noticed performance issues on the PC platform, it emerged that Bitcoin mining malware is being distributed with it, that hogs GPU time.

Pirated copies of Watch_Dogs surfaced on several bit-torrent tracker sites, ahead of even the game's official launch on the 27th of May. When installed, the software injects malware into your system, and taps 25 percent of your CPU time, and much more GPU time. The miner masquerates as "winlogin.exe," which in a cluttered list of running processes in your Task Manager, could be mistaken for "winlogon.exe," an important Windows process.

Bitcoin mining on CPU and GPU may have outgrown its viability with ASICs having taken over; but for whoever designed the malware, thousands upon thousands of GPUs mining away Bitcoins, could be more than profitable.

Until popular antivirus providers come up with fixes, it's recommended that you uninstall the game, and disable "winlogin.exe" from your system's startup entries. Just don't remove "winlogon.exe" in the process, or it's system-recovery time for you. A great way to wreck your Monday.

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@Alienware_fan said:

@Alienware_fan said:

You can change the ini settings to make the game look even more beautiful, better than crysis or anything I have seen. though the fps drops even lower under 30 all the time but still playable.

you find that impressive? my modded gta iv can look on par if not better, I expected more from an AAA 2014 title.

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#138 horgen  Moderator
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Oh look

The best proof I can give on that I've bought it :P

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#139  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@napo_sp said:
@Alienware_fan said:

@Alienware_fan said:

You can change the ini settings to make the game look even more beautiful, better than crysis or anything I have seen. though the fps drops even lower under 30 all the time but still playable.

you find that impressive? my modded gta iv can look on par if not better, I expected more from an AAA 2014 title.

I think the game can look pretty incredible...

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#140  Edited By commander
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Well looks like a phenom X6 will do better than an i5

If this is true of course

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#141 cyloninside
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

@napo_sp said:
@Alienware_fan said:

@Alienware_fan said:

You can change the ini settings to make the game look even more beautiful, better than crysis or anything I have seen. though the fps drops even lower under 30 all the time but still playable.

you find that impressive? my modded gta iv can look on par if not better, I expected more from an AAA 2014 title.

I think the game can look pretty incredible...

i dont think anyone is particularly arguing that the game looks bad.... it just doesnt look that much better on PC than the gameplay we have seen of the console versions. infact aside from the waves and the -slightly- increased view distance, they look about on par. i think that is why people are pissy.

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#142  Edited By bigfootpart2
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This is a great example of why it makes sense to just pony up the extra $100 for an i7 over an i5. When someone like Ubisoft craps out a horribly unoptimized dump of a console port like this, you're going to want the extra threads and extra CPU power.

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#143 cyloninside
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@bigfootpart2 said:

This is a great example of why it makes sense to just pony up the extra $100 for an i7 over an i5. When someone like Ubisoft craps out a horribly unoptimized dump of a console port like this, you're going to want the extra threads and extra CPU power.

yeah..... i dont think that is a good reason at all.

i think a better reason would be for PC gamers to not buy the offending games on PC..... because voting with your wallet does a hell of a lot more good than just bending over and taking whatever you get.

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#144  Edited By GTR12
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@bigfootpart2 said:

This is a great example of why it makes sense to just pony up the extra $100 for an i7 over an i5. When someone like Ubisoft craps out a horribly unoptimized dump of a console port like this, you're going to want the extra threads and extra CPU power.

GTA 4 says hello

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#145  Edited By vfibsux
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I am running a i5 4670K along with a GTX 780 Ti at 2560x1080 on the highest settings with 2x MSAA and I am getting a solid 50-60FPS... No dips at all.

Impossible!!

Well even if so .....every time you boot up without an i7 a puppy dies.

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#146  Edited By mjorh
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What's with the 3G graphics card for playing on Ultra? ! even if u have a powerful graphics card u can't play it on Ultra textures unless it's 3G!

The lag is annoying ! i'm playing on High with AA off , GTX560TI , I3 2100 ,8G.

Vsync is like " 1frame , 2frames" , what does it mean?

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#148  Edited By Coseniath
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Watch Dogs VGA graphics performance benchmark review - Article - Guide - Review "Guru3D"

Watch Dogs Benchmarked: Graphics & CPU Performance "Techspot"

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#149  Edited By Chakaii
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Nice benchmarks :)

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@mjorh said:

What's with the 3G graphics card for playing on Ultra? ! even if u have a powerful graphics card u can't play it on Ultra textures unless it's 3G!

The lag is annoying ! i'm playing on High with AA off , GTX560TI , I3 2100 ,8G.

Vsync is like " 1frame , 2frames" , what does it mean?

3GB, 3G means something else.