While everyone is focused on the US election

Europe is getting hit hard with various Islamic extremists attacks. Beheadding and knife attacks in France (outside a school and church respectively) and just now six separate shootings in Austria.

https://youtu.be/QsTup3NkWcA

https://youtu.be/vCvMvc4VlEM

https://youtu.be/Pfigb2DeV9E

yep, they should have been far more careful about letting muslims into the country. Im not going to claim all muslims, but a significant chunk are extremists. Signing the UNHCR was just a trojan horse to the downfall of the west

Yes. That's a shame and hopefully Europe can stamp out the terrorism.

Mr. Bannon! Welcome to the forum.

A majority of domestic terror in USA is from far right groups, typically from a specific demographic.

What should we do about that demographic?

both are problems that need to be resolved.

nope, just the truth. French people drew a cartoon of mohammed and suddenly 2 or 3 terrorist attacks take place. Its ridiculous. They are trying to force their bs shariah law down democratic peoples throats.

@zaryia: Cite recent events and not just some outdated government links you usually do.

The Left are committing more terrorism in the US over the past six months.

It's messed up in Europe. And how dumb of countries to boycott French products. People were murdered and the president called out extremists. Shows where many peoples' priorities lie. Disgusting.

I can understand people getting offended at stuff. I don't get where people think they're justified in murdering people because they're offended.

I'm generally tolerant of religion despite thinking of it as a cultural virus that wants to destroy everything that is not itself, but there's a special, terrible quality to Sharia-law Islam that just really pisses me off.

You can kick, scream, whine, sue, yell, and do all sort of bad things if someone offends your religion, but it is a special kind of fucked up that has someone sawing off people's heads because they drew....a cartoon...of some prophet.

Anyone that defends this at the slightest is a scumbag as far as I am concerned. Tired of hearing people go "Oh well maybe we shouldn't draw cartoons or agravate the Muslims".

Yeah, maybe.....or maybe they can realize religion isn't meant to be taken literally and they can grow a damn backbone. They're not the only people being made fun of...I hope they realize that. But no no no you poke fun at Mohammad and suddenly it's a death sentence.

Sheesh...

Whataboutism?

But to your point, I think the FBI investigates right-wing extremism pretty seriously. After all, they did catch those would-be kidnappers and other militia members before they grabbed that governor or whatever.

It seems like in Europe they can't be as aggressive, which is why stabbings, death-by-vehicle, and other acts of violence seem to happen so often.

The most concerning about this issue is that as fear spreads people tend to coward and shift votes more towards the far right.

Sadly Islamic terrorism will always be a problem for Europe, not just because of historical motives but also just by geographic proximity.

There needs to be a zero tolerance for the preachers of Islamic extremism, just like with any other form of extremism. But most importantly Europe must stop interfering with Islamic countries and openly be against other countries interfering there too. The war in Iraq was criminal and the dominoe effect is still going and as much as I would like to point fingers at the terrorist government of Bush, many European governments were supportive of that war because they smelled money.

It sucks but it's not by discriminating the 99% that are decent humans that anything will be solved.

I had heard of the recent beheading, but not of the additional knife attacks and shootings. Normally terrorism like this would be pretty big news.

Far-Right Groups Are Behind Most U.S. Terrorist Attacks, Report Finds

White supremacist groups have carried out a majority of “terrorist plots and attacks” this year, according to a report by a think tank, the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/us/domestic-terrorist-groups.html

@zaryia: New York Times = fake news.

Btw, what does your nonsense have to do with this thread? And you accuse me of derailing threads?

Didn’t you say only left wingers did this?

And open boarders with extremist nations have repercussions. This has happened before and will again until that boarder is closed.

Europe has itself to blame for it. LIberals that pushed there agenda so far to the point the far right starts to pop up again.

The thing is its not hard to figure out that far right group are doing the most terrorist attacks when u exclude the left entirely out of it.

"In addition, this analysis does not focus on protests, looting, and broader civil disturbances"

Yet those killed more than anything else in 2020 in the US. Not biased at all guys.

Anyway on topic.

They can blame brussel ( EU ) for it and merkel and the left and macron can blame himself also. They now reek the profits from there idiocy and not standing up to the radical left and radical left company's like twitter and facebook. U get what u sow.

@thegreatchomp: Yet Biden wants to increase refugee numbers from hotspots by 700%.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/10/14/reality-check-is-trumps-claim-biden-would-increase-immigration-by-700-true/

Not that you care being in Canada and all but we need immigration for tax purposes.......and social security. Also refugees are not equal to terrorists. That's some mental gymnastics there.

@Sevenizz: lol! Did you even click that link? Haha!

@ghost_of_phobos: actually you changed my mind on this. I keep forgetting how much death the west spread in the middle east because of bin laden and securing oil. We really have no footing to stand on when it comes to terrorism. After all, from the muslim point of view, we are the terrorists. We reap what we sow. I would recommend not going out to crowded places as much where these kinds of incidents tend to happen.

So much stupid in this post... maybe you guys should just stick to defending trump so you don’t embarrass yourself any further..

Freedom of speech.

You get to draw Jesus.

You get to draw Abraham.

You get to draw Buddha.

You get to draw Stephen Hawking.

And yes, you get to draw Muhammad.

To sum it up, you get to draw whatever you want.

And that's that.

@LJS9502_basic: Because, as I’ve answered many times, I am dual citizenship (America being my birthplace) so yes I do care. I’m fully aware we need immigrants. Lots of them. But they need to come in legally and not enmass. Especially when hotspot countries are of a concern which btw, the Supreme Court agreed with Trump on as well.

Biden isn't telling people to come in illegally so then why are you whining about it?

Wrong. That report isn't the only source for the fact I stated.

The right has a strangle hold on domestic terror in USA according to the FBI and DHS. These are superior sources than you will provide to counter my claim. That is if you ever bring any sources (you usually don't).

White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/white-supremacists-anarchists-dhs-homeland-threat-assessment/index.html

Acting U.S. DHS security intelligence chief says he agrees with FBI on white supremacist threat

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-intelligence-homeland/acting-u-s-dhs-security-intelligence-chief-says-he-agrees-with-fbi-on-white-supremacist-threat-idUSKBN26N35E

Note it doesn't say Radical Islam is the current deadliest terror threat.

As usual, you are simply incorrect on a factual basis.

@zaryia: Yet you can’t link a single incident other than an unsuccessful attempt at a bizarre kidnapping plot. And you linked CNN as a source lol.

Maybe they should address their racism problem against Muslims that fuel stuff like this. Not saying this violence is justified, but not unexpected when a large segment of their population is antagonized either. All I can say is keep a level head, because if you find safety in anti-muslim propaganda on social media being perpetuated by a Russian troll army for purposes of electing isolationist leaders throughout Europe then you are being played. We are trying to oust our mistake here. Britain still has Brexit being executed by a Fraggle with permanent bedhead. The second runner up in that somewhat recent French election was a bona-fide fascist that got a third of the vote. A lot is on the line everywhere and a better day is a long way off. Not to mention we are contending with a global pandemic while the world is (literally) on fire.

CNN is citing the DHS....

I was just wondering, you're concerned about white supremacist terrorism in US (the top danger in US) as well as this Islamic extremism in EU right?

Racism and religious discrimination (Muslims are not a race) are bad. Murder and violence are also bad, but worse, antagonized or not....

Care to clarify the "racism" problem against Muslims? I assume that you are referring to the publications of Muhammad in the mid 00's. That the drawings "fueled stuff (murder?) like this". Should they ban critics from making fun of Islam? Should critics be allowed to make fun of other religions but Islam, or none at all?

You can easily find anti-Muslim propaganda, and you could also before Trump and this Russian nonsense. You can find negative propaganda for all religions. Though as some posters already stated there is one particular group that has demonstrated a noticeable approach in dealing with their critics.

In America we have freedom of speech, we make fun of religious figures all the times, like jesus for example. It is most certain not okay to behead people over cartoons.

This is why we need a national "Draw Muhammad Day" here in the states. We need to bring them into American culture so they understand your "Muhammad" is not off limits here.

@zaryia: Still not citing a single incident.

Shootings in Austria? But I thought gun laws magically stopped people willing to commit mass murder?

It is true that people make jokes about Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, all the time and Muslims seem to be the only ones committing mass murder of innocent people over it. But, cartoons are poor excuses, not reasons. European "leadership" not only failed their own citizens, but did a great disservice to decent Muslims by letting anyone and everyone flood into their countries when we knew from the start a lot of them were criminals, ISIS militants, and members of other terrorist groups.

A little basic border security and reasonable immigration policies go a long way to keep people safe, and actually help the ones who really need it because all Muslims will get lumped in with this now and the sad part is the citizens of those countries will suffer the most because you're going to see innocent Europeans punished for something they didn't do as legislation is written to further limit things like free speech, free expression, or their abilities to defend themselves.

@blaznwiipspman1: Can you quantify a significant chunk?

There are near six million Muslims in France, how many do you suspect are extremists?

Or do you actually mean a tiny tiny minority?

Personally I am fond of many of my muslim friends and glad they could immigrate here, but I also held a view that we shouldnt just let in anyone. There are those, especially belonging to sects which could be considered cults, that have no chance to integrate well into europe, and should not be allowed entry. They dont have to adopt all our values, but people need to learn to live and let live and not bother about trying to govern other people's lives.

Salafism? or its Militant branch? Wahhabism?

Both mind you, I consider cults and both are endorsed and heavily supported by the Saudi government?

Personally I wouldnt mind the governments of the EU to outlaw these branches, even if it pisses people off.

@zaryia: My ninth request from you, cite recent incidents. You continually evade this request because they don’t exist except your bogus outdated stats that omit most of when the left has been doing all summer.

Whoever’s paying you should get a refund. You’re not good as a propagandist.

@eoten: ‘Shootings in Austria? But I thought gun laws magically stopped people willing to commit mass murder?‘

Apparently would be terrorists don’t obey gun laws and the citizens are left as sitting ducks. The nerve!

@eoten: The amount of clueless and ignorant shit you spew in this forums is hilarious.

Do you have a counter argument, or are you just going to whine?

@eoten: Just last year you had more than 400 mass shootings in the USA. Not to mention murder rates at the level of 3rd world countries along with death at the hands authorities. There's nothing to counter argument. You don't counter argument ignorance.

I still remember when you came out of nowhere into the political forums pretending to be a moderate. That mask is long gone.

I can sort of understand being xenophobic for a country you live in, Canada in this example.

But being xenophobic for a country that you don't even come from is extremely bizarre.

That's what happens when you bomb their countries and let them get radicalized when they no longer have nothing to lose.

Or arm and fund "rebels" that we knew were extremists from day 1, as the Obama administration was doing in an effort to destabilize Syria to overthrow Assad just as it had in Libya and other countries. And those militants infiltrated the "refugee" caravans headed for Europe. I'm glad we wont be electing one of the key people responsible for that, Joe Biden.

@eoten: That has always happened as part of US policies under republicans or democrats. Hell, Trump brags of selling billions in armament to the Saudits.

Are you seriously trying to equate US aiding actual legitimate countries with arming and funding terrorist organizations for the purpose of overthrowing their own leadership? You do realize that those weapons Obama, Clinton, and Biden gave to those rebels were used by ISIS to murder innocent people all throughout the middle east, right?

Can you even do logic?

@eoten: First, the policy of arming rebel forces is not a Democratic exclusive. It's something shity done by both parties for decades and decades. Which you obviously know but conveniently pretend not to, as the farm troll you are.

With that out of the way,

The Saudis were attacking civil targets in Yemen while that deal was done. So they were indeed, as you said it, "murdering innocent people", bombing schools and hospitals. In fact, on top of that, they had just murdered an American resident also during that deal, which happen to be against that legitimate government, to which Trump was OK with because.. money. This he said it himself while humiliating himself publicly to the ruler of Saudi Arabia.

Just to finish you up,

The "legitimate government " as you put it, is not a democracy. It's not an elected government. It's a brutal religious monarchy that abides by the sharia law, and in the past attacked american interests and american citizens. What Trump is doing is exactly what other American presidents did in the past, with the difference of being at a much larger scale. He is selling weapons to a faction on an historically unstable region because right now their interests align. And as previously, once their interests stop being shared, or once a new ruler takes place, instead of a rebel faction you potentially have a rebel state, heavily armed and filthy rich. Of course you would have to have some understanding of the tribal nature of that region to have any understanding of what's happening and the risks involved.

Maybe ask your supervisors for a better scrip so that you don't embarrass yourself like this again. It's sad.