Did MS lie about The most powerful console ever made, will be running games at 60FPS as the new standard ?

As we all know, the xbox community is at war amongst themselves right now. With the news that Starfield will be locked at 30fps, it has put a split within the xbox community. Some Once die hard 60fps gamers are now okay with MS devolving from 60fps to 30fps.

Which makes me question the true power of the xbsex , is it really the most powerful console ever created, if its running games at a locked 30fps, while all of the first party PS5 games are running at 60fps.

...So we are now simply measuring the performance of a console by its FPS? Console A runs Game X at 60. Console B runs Game Y at 30. Thus Console A is more powerful....FACT!

That's where we are at now?

Also a stupid comment by Aaron Greenberg (whoever they are). 60 FPS will never ever ever be standard across the board on consoles. Never going to happen.

30fps will be the new standard for xbox while pc and ps5 will continue to add 60fps options for players

It is to be expected coming out of the cross-gen period. As games become more advanced and keep pushing the limits, these 10.2 and 12 TFLOPS boxes will struggle. That is why you play on PC if you care about quality.

The Xbox Series X multiplat version of games most of the time run at higher Resolution than PS5 versions. Care to explain that?

That's untrue, most multiplats have mirrored performance between the PS5 and the X.

They can barely handle their biggest game of this generation running in 30fps. Of course they lied, and their 12tflops are inferior to 9.2tflops inside my ps5. 12pathetictflops.

What a hermit comment. Pathetic.

congratulations on your first lie 🤣

The Sony fannies are in damage control since Sunday.

1080pTurnal. /Thread.

Shocker. News just in, PS5 can play all of last years PS4 games at 60fps. XD

@davillain:

Not sure what they lied about?
Saying "60 fps will be the new standard" doesn't mean that every new game will be 60 fps.
Saying your console is the most powerful console made doesn't mean all of its games will look better than other consoles' games.

If you really care about which of the two consoles have the slightly more powerful internal parts, check what internal parts the consoles have and compare them. I think the Xbox has the more powerful parts, no? But I'm pretty sure the correct answer is "who gives a shit".

But I can see fps better than other people..

And the bovine meltdowns continue. lol :P

Well as I always say Xbox S needs to be taken off the market it’s holding back the Xbox X for obvious reasons. I believe Starfield is unfinished game just like Redfall and that they will add 60 fps down the road and lie about it that they always planed it. Starfield looks much better and improved but we will see it when we get to play it

well sony pushes the upscaled 4k. helps performance. while xbox pushes 4k more. sometimes 4k works for a game but sometimes you get ps5 performance is better because of it.

@daredevils2k said:

@xhawk27 said:

The Xbox Series X multiplat version of games most of the time run at higher Resolution than PS5 versions. Care to explain that?

congratulations on your first lie 🤣

not really sony like to push upscaled 4k. makes it easier for developers to achieve performance while xbox pushes 4k. upscale is getting better and better.

sometimes works for xbox other times you see ps5 performance is running better.

don't say that to loud pedro going to have your head for saying that. even though developers have said it.

I feel inclined to say it's a lie -- but it's more reasonable that that Aaron guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

@Pedro: you guys are the strongest victims ever lmao. Complain about Sony but always have something to be smug about 😂 All while being outsold 4 to 1. 😂

The damage control is so real that I am triggering my biggest fans.

@Pedro: Exactly what is there for Sony fans to damage control over? Please enlighten me 😂 So childish.

@SecretPolice: you guys say anything and hope it sticks 😂

30 FPS Starfield or another Boring Sony first party game....Wow this is so hard to decide! (it REALLY is not hard to decide) Sony could only dream of having Starfield.

Poo cows. lol :P

@mojito1988: people have played this game before, it's called No Man's Sky 😂

I understand that Sony has let you all down with the last showcase and Sunday was a true test of your metal. Thus the reason you and your fellow goons have been in perpetual damage control mode. I understand your pain but I can't relate.😂

So much damage control from Cows these days. 😂

@daredevils2k: As everyone knows, the XSX is more powerful than PS5.

Keep trying, milk-maker.

The disasterous Sony showcase vs MS's impressive one? How epic Starfield looks? How multiplat games, including JRPGs, are on Game Pass but not PSPlus?

The list goes on and on, bro.

Rift Apart, Demon Souls, and Returnal were not cross gen games. Care to explain?

The difference is:

Most of your claims are opinions (one in which I do agree with), while the other is a fact.

@Pedro said:

@Sagemode87 said:

@Pedro: Exactly what is there for Sony fans to damage control over? Please enlighten me 😂 So childish.

I understand that Sony has let you all down with the last showcase and Sunday was a true test of your metal. Thus the reason you and your fellow goons have been in perpetual damage control mode. I understand your pain but I can't relate.😂

In all fairness, MS did make that claim, as the TC left clear evidence of. Sony gets flak from posters here about Returnal resolution output, and it’s validated, but when MS is called out on their foolery, it’s “damage control“. The double standard have to stop.

What claim did MS make?

About the xsx making 60 frames the standard. Did you read the TC post?

It is standard. Do you know what standard means?

"used or accepted as normal or average" - Oxford Language

At no point did Aaron say that 60fps is minimum. And standard =/= minimum.

You realize that all of Xbox first party game this gen are unlocked and 60fps besides Redfall, which is updating the game to add it?

60 fps on Xbox first party games is "normal" or "average", hence "standard".

My god, people love to shit themselves.

LOL. It's like you are arguing that a movie that has 99% "fresh" rating on RottenTomatoes.com is a bad movie.

Sony's showcase was universally panned, MS's showcase was universally praised. Every site and content creator on the internet is putting out articles about Starfield, Avowed, Fable, etc. You can live in a fanboy world of "Sony's conference and MS's conference were on par with each other" or "Sony's conference was better", but not even Playstation-focused sites have your back on that conclusion, and are doing damage control.

and yet

https://gamerant.com/starfield-30-fps-reaction-god-of-war-dev/

Yeah, TC seems like is having an hard time coping with the MS show.

I would pretty much ignore all marketing talk from console manufacturers and use common sense instead. This includes magical SSDs, 8k claims and any commitment to fps, generations or wtv.

My opinion, 30 FPS is tolerable but not defendable.

Returnal was 1080p... I mean the list gets smaller and smaller of competent proper PS5 games.

If you defend 30fps, you're a not a real gamer. You're a mobile gamer instead.

It's inevitable consoles will return to 30fps. I predicted it from the beginning. They're going to want to max out the graphics on these consoles.

To be fair Returnal was an AA game, was fairly low quality so it should be able to run at 60 FPS

What makes me laugh about all these lems is, ever since the xbsex released all they touted was how much they love 60fps and that 30fps is soooooo last gen. Now that their messiah is locked at 30fps, all off sudden they are in love with 30fps first person shooters.