FF16 Pax presentation made the game look like its running on a PS3.

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#1 hardwenzen
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I welcome my fellow cows to join me in the suicide watch. Pax gameplay showcase made the game look incredibly ugly and outdated. The draw distance is literally Oblivion level, and the visuals are as washed out as Halo Infinite. My hype for this game has dropped to the bottom of a pit because the open world looks like FF15, which was trash tier to say the least.

Now, i understand that my fellow cows will be full of copium on this, but trust me, the acceptance phase isn't that painful, so you might re-think your copium fueled hype for this game.

Was thinking of grabbing this over Diablo 4 as the game of June, but i guess we're going with plan B.

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Just watched 30 secs of, what I am assuming is the dev, showcasing him being able to play it one handed by just spamming buttons….😬😬

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#3  Edited By KvallyX
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Hmmm...that looks worse than Elden Ring.

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#4 Fedor
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That doesn't look as impressive as I hoped.

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#5 Archangel3371
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Watched it the other day and thought it looked fantastic myself. Combat looks so damn fun.

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#6 Zaryia
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Yup I'll wait for the high gfx high fps version on PC.

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It looks like.. well, an MMO, and it is. So, not surprising the disparity between marketing and actual gameplay, almost standard for the genre...

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...but suckers see the FFXVI cinematic and be like "I'm gonna pee my pants, 'only possible on PS5', I believe it!"

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Why do Japanese games feature dogs as pets etc like the western world. It's pretty much a land of the cats.

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#9  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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It'll do. it doesn't look a ton different from XV on PC but I still want to play it. It sounds like I'm gonna be customizing the controls right away if they want to put the evade button on the shoulder controls though

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Imagine judging graphics by compressed YouTube screen grabs in 2023! 🤣

The HD gameplay videos looked amazing and everyone that has previewed it says it is a graphical showpiece.

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#11  Edited By Silentchief
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@lamprey263 said:

It looks like.. well, an MMO, and it is. So, not surprising the disparity between marketing and actual gameplay, almost standard for the genre...

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...that, versus...

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...but suckers see the FFXVI cinematic and be like "I'm gonna pee my pants, 'only possible on PS5', I believe it!"

It's nothing like an MMO. The combat is basically like DMC V. It's also using real time graphics as opposed to pre-rendered cinematic for the cut scenes.

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#12 Fedor
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@lamprey263 said:

It looks like.. well, an MMO, and it is. So, not surprising the disparity between marketing and actual gameplay, almost standard for the genre...

...that, versus...

...but suckers see the FFXVI cinematic and be like "I'm gonna pee my pants, 'only possible on PS5', I believe it!"

Yep, Yoshi P is an MMO guy and it looks like he made a single player MMO here.

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#13 lamprey263
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@fedor: wait, it's not an MMO? Damn, then even less of an excuse to look this shit.

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Isn’t this the ps5 exclusive we were hearing a lot about from that side of the fence?

Looks like your bog standard 3rd person action adventure to me….

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@sealionact said:

Isn’t this the ps5 exclusive we were hearing a lot about from that side of the fence?

Looks like your bog standard 3rd person action adventure to me….

Never moan about me being anti xbox. I just gave you massive ammunitions your own lems were too slow to find on their own. I damage the reputation of my own system, and you need to respect that.

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#16  Edited By JoshRMeyer
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If it's from the team that did FFXIV, you have nothing to worry about. Everything about that game runs and looks great. Even if it's an MMO(didn't think this one was), there's still a ton to do single player.

After a quick Google search, this is not an MMO. It's an action RPG, single player. FFXIV is still thriving. Would have been dumb to release another one right now.

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@silentchief said:

Imagine judging graphics by compressed YouTube screen grabs in 2023! 🤣

The HD gameplay videos looked amazing and everyone that has previewed it says it is a graphical showpiece.

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#18 hardwenzen
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@joshrmeyer said:

If it's from the team that did FFXIV, you have nothing to worry about. Everything about that game runs and looks great. Even if it's an MMO(didn't think this one was), there's still a ton to do single player.

After a quick Google search, this is not an MMO. It's an action RPG, single player. FFXIV is still thriving. Would have been dumb to release another one right now.

My issue is that before this gameplay clip, everything shown looked very next gen, and even listening to DF, they were impressed by the visuals and were comparing it to demon's souls remake, which has amazing graphics even years after release.

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@hardwenzen said:

demon's souls remake, which has amazing graphics even years after release.

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#21 hardwenzen
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@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:

demon's souls remake, which has amazing graphics even years after release.

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#22 KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:

demon's souls remake, which has amazing graphics even years after release.

Confirmed. PS3 called, they want their graphics back.

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#23 Silentchief
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@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:

Imagine judging graphics by compressed YouTube screen grabs in 2023! 🤣

The HD gameplay videos looked amazing and everyone that has previewed it says it is a graphical showpiece.

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

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#24 KvallyX
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@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:

Imagine judging graphics by compressed YouTube screen grabs in 2023! 🤣

The HD gameplay videos looked amazing and everyone that has previewed it says it is a graphical showpiece.

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

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#25  Edited By hardwenzen
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@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:

demon's souls remake, which has amazing graphics even years after release.

Confirmed. PS3 called, they want their graphics back.

Infinite is an Xbox exclusive. Tell the ps3 that they can't have it.

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#26 KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:

demon's souls remake, which has amazing graphics even years after release.

Confirmed. PS3 called, they want their graphics back.

Infinite is an Xbox exclusive. Tell the ps3 that they can't have it.

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#27 Silentchief
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@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:

Imagine judging graphics by compressed YouTube screen grabs in 2023! 🤣

The HD gameplay videos looked amazing and everyone that has previewed it says it is a graphical showpiece.

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

Nah it's the " Iron Galaxy " version exclusively on Microsoft Windows .

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#28 Jag85
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The demo takes place in a desert... And it looks exactly like a desert. So what else do you expect?

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#29  Edited By Fedor
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@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

Nah it's the " Iron Galaxy " version exclusively on Microsoft Windows .

Naw, that's the ND in house with support from Iron Galaxy developed version. All ND's talent quit.

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#30 KvallyX
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@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:

Imagine judging graphics by compressed YouTube screen grabs in 2023! 🤣

The HD gameplay videos looked amazing and everyone that has previewed it says it is a graphical showpiece.

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

Nah it's the " Iron Galaxy " version exclusively on Microsoft Windows .

Nope, it was in house. Works on Steam Deck, Linux.

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#31 simple-facts
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PS3 exclusive?

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#32 Silentchief
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@fedor said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

Nah it's the " Iron Galaxy " version exclusively on Microsoft Windows .

Naw, that's the ND in house with support from Iron Galaxy developed version. All ND's talent quit.

Doubtful, in-house talent isn't working on PC ports unless they are using Nixxes.

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#33  Edited By hardwenzen
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@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:

Confirmed. PS3 called, they want their graphics back.

Infinite is an Xbox exclusive. Tell the ps3 that they can't have it.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if you have her feet pics saved on your pc.

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#34 KvallyX
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@silentchief said:
@fedor said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

Nah it's the " Iron Galaxy " version exclusively on Microsoft Windows .

Naw, that's the ND in house with support from Iron Galaxy developed version. All ND's talent quit.

Doubtful, in-house talent isn't working on PC ports unless they are using Nixxes.

Naw, ND already confirmed that they did it in-house. We will believe them over you.

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#35 Fedor
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@silentchief said:
@fedor said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:

Make sure you post that in response to PC gamers. Since that's the PC version 🤣

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

Nah it's the " Iron Galaxy " version exclusively on Microsoft Windows .

Naw, that's the ND in house with support from Iron Galaxy developed version. All ND's talent quit.

Doubtful, in-house talent isn't working on PC ports unless they are using Nixxes.

As we began development in-house, we wanted PC players to experience an amazing story that truly lasts the test of time while maintaining the equally high-quality bar across both PC and PlayStation consoles

It was in house, this is just one of the many times ND mentioned they did it in house.

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#36 KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:

Confirmed. PS3 called, they want their graphics back.

Infinite is an Xbox exclusive. Tell the ps3 that they can't have it.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if you have her feet pics saved on your pc.

https://twitter.com/tloufeet

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#37 pyro1245
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Lol they probably could have picked a better area to tease.

I see a lot of "this looks like a PS3 game" kinda nonsense tho. I swear y'all don't have great memories when it comes to what graphics on PS3 looked like 😂

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#38 hardwenzen
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@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:
@hardwenzen said:
@kvallyx said:

Confirmed. PS3 called, they want their graphics back.

Infinite is an Xbox exclusive. Tell the ps3 that they can't have it.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if you have her feet pics saved on your pc.

https://twitter.com/tloufeet

Jesus

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#39 hardwenzen
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@pyro1245 said:

Lol they probably could have picked a better area to tease.

I see a lot of "this looks like a PS3 game" kinda nonsense tho. I swear y'all don't have great memories when it comes to what graphics on PS3 looked like 😂

You're not supposed to take these comments literally (obviously). Its just to say that it look outdated as hell, and that desert area sure does.

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#40 Silentchief
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@fedor said:
@silentchief said:
@fedor said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

Nah, it's The Last of Us NAUGHTY DOG version!

Nah it's the " Iron Galaxy " version exclusively on Microsoft Windows .

Naw, that's the ND in house with support from Iron Galaxy developed version. All ND's talent quit.

Doubtful, in-house talent isn't working on PC ports unless they are using Nixxes.

As we began development in-house, we wanted PC players to experience an amazing story that truly lasts the test of time while maintaining the equally high-quality bar across both PC and PlayStation consoles

It was in house, this is just one of the many times ND mentioned they did it in house.

Development began in house when it was developed for PS5. That doesn't mean they handled the port. At best it would have been a small portion of the studio as the rest of the studio is working on two other games.

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#41  Edited By Fedor
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@silentchief said:
@fedor said:
@silentchief said:
@fedor said:

Naw, that's the ND in house with support from Iron Galaxy developed version. All ND's talent quit.

Doubtful, in-house talent isn't working on PC ports unless they are using Nixxes.

As we began development in-house, we wanted PC players to experience an amazing story that truly lasts the test of time while maintaining the equally high-quality bar across both PC and PlayStation consoles

It was in house, this is just one of the many times ND mentioned they did it in house.

Development began in house when it was developed for PS5. That doesn't mean they handled the port. At best it would have been a small portion of the studio as the rest of the studio is working on two other games.

Lol, no. It was worked in house, stop the cope.

"we focused our efforts and learnings onto the PC version of The Last of Us Part I. Behind the scenes, we worked towards ensuring that The Last of Us Part I would be an authentic, satisfying experience for those playing on PC. The challenges we overcame and the successes we achieved in our previous modern PC release empowered us to dig into Part I’s PC development. New projects bring new challenges and opportunities alike."

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#42 omegaMaster
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FF16 looks excellent and well-crafted, but I still have reservations about it.

1. The graphics and gameplay don't look like a PS3 game.

2. I think the storyline will be complicated, dull and not memorable, just like FF15.

3. The last great Final Fantasy game was FF10. Since FF12, I haven't enjoyed FF13 and FF15.

4. I supposed the only think I like what Square are doing is pushing FF16 to new heights rather than sticking with the same formula or comfort zone.

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Still looks generations ahead of the new Zelda 😆

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#44  Edited By Silentchief
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@fedor said:
@silentchief said:
@fedor said:
@silentchief said:

Doubtful, in-house talent isn't working on PC ports unless they are using Nixxes.

As we began development in-house, we wanted PC players to experience an amazing story that truly lasts the test of time while maintaining the equally high-quality bar across both PC and PlayStation consoles

It was in house, this is just one of the many times ND mentioned they did it in house.

Development began in house when it was developed for PS5. That doesn't mean they handled the port. At best it would have been a small portion of the studio as the rest of the studio is working on two other games.

Lol, no. It was worked in house, stop the cope.

"we focused our efforts and learnings onto the PC version of The Last of Us Part I. Behind the scenes, we worked towards ensuring that The Last of Us Part I would be an authentic, satisfying experience for those playing on PC. The challenges we overcame and the successes we achieved in our previous modern PC release empowered us to dig into Part I’s PC development. New projects bring new challenges and opportunities alike."

I'm just stating facts. I have no reason to cope as I'm not gaming on PC 🤣.

Did ND bring on Iron Galaxy on the PS5 version as well? No they didn't because that was actually developed by Naughty Dog. Sony should waste few resources as possible on PC peasants. I'll start to worry when the quality of their PS5 releases drops.

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#45  Edited By Fedor
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@silentchief: You haven't stated any facts, It's now coming out that iron galaxy might not have worked on the port at all. But if you don't care you shouldn't have any problem accepting ND's admitted failure.

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#46 lamprey263
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Well, next to TLOU (PC) at least it doesn't look so bad.

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#47  Edited By Maroxad
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@silentchief said:

It's nothing like an MMO. The combat is basically like DMC V. It's also using real time graphics as opposed to pre-rendered cinematic for the cut scenes.

When people use the term Single Player MMO people tend to refer to the structure. Not combat.

There is a lot of variety in mmo combat. From Planetside (FPS), to Dofus (TRPG), to FF14 (Tab Target) to Lost Ark (Diablo Esque) to TERA (Third Person Action).

Edit: And yikes, you seriously need to start learning to own up to things rather than doubling down every time you are wrong.

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#48 KvallyX
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@silentchief: DF already confirmed it directly with them.

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#49  Edited By deactivated-642c1157b8e80
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None of the games on ps5 and series consoles has wowed me, visually. This was my last console generation, I’m going to have my BiL help me build a gaming rig in the next year, I need to hold onto my ps5 for ff14 until then. So I’m not shocked to see it looks less impressive as more regular gameplay is shown. The more I see the less it even vaguely looks like Final Fantasy at all. Dollar Store Devil May Cry in a fantasy setting isn’t Final Fantasy.

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"You can even play one handed"🤭