G4TV: Halo's impact on the multiplayer universe is almost immeasurable ...

... and it almost didn't happen http://www.g4tv.com/videos/54074/bungie-20th-anniversary-multiplayer-legacy/

What other games you believe have dramatically impacted their genre after their release?

How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

ChubbyGuy40

I agree. Halo had a huge impact like it or not

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

SolidTy

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

SolidTy

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

SolidTy

I believe splitscreen multiplayer will still be included, just not online. I think, it would be stupid not to include some sort of competitive multiplayer

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

SolidTy

Wait not even the 4-player split-screen and system link play? How about 2 player co-op?

Halo ain't Halo without those things.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

soulitane

I wish it included Halo 2 in the pack as well. Halo definitely has shaped a lot of MP games though.

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

soulitane

wait..what! :|

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How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

Mystery_Writer

I like it when military shooters don't have regenerating health because thats complete BS. Med kits are alright, but in some games can be sort've OP like Battlefield 2. I prefer it when they have neither system really.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

moose_knuckler

I want the whole kit and kaboodle...I already own Halo Reach. (Two copies in fact for LAN) :)

I certainly don't want Reach again, since I already own it. But yeah, I would like the old Halo game, redone in HD for MP.

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How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

Mystery_Writer

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

ChubbyGuy40

I like it when military shooters don't have regenerating health because thats complete BS. Med kits are alright, but in some games can be sort've OP like Battlefield 2. I prefer it when they have neither system really.

I honestly feel Goldeneye on the N64 had a slightly bigger impact when it comes to multiplayer. On consoles at least.Xaero_Gravity

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

Wasdie

Wait not even the 4-player split-screen and system link play? How about 2 player co-op?

Halo ain't Halo without those things.

I don't think there will be versus multiplayer, but there will be co-op.

what FPS game that doesn't have neither system?Mystery_Writer

Counter Strike. Its MP is infinitely superior.

Halo is the essence of everything that is bad on today's first person shooter scene.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

JohnF111

Halo is the essence of everything bad on today's first person shooter scene.

markko84

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

A shame that the original Halo's Multiplayer (you know, what G4TV's talking about as immeasurably impactful) won't be included with Halo Anniversary...instead we are getting Halo Reach MP.

SolidTy

I want the whole kit and kaboodle...I already own Halo Reach. (Two copies in fact for LAN) :)

I certainly don't want Reach again, since I already own it. But yeah, I would like the old Halo game, redone in HD for MP.

This is still shocking to hear when I constantly see people agree how badly FPS have aged. So many CE maps could take advantage of so many of the new mechanics introduced after CE.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"] what FPS game that doesn't have neither system?ChubbyGuy40

Counter Strike. Its MP is infinitely superior.

What I like about CS, is that no matter what you say, you can critize an whole lot of its aspects.. but nobody can deny.. its pure skill as it gets.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"] what FPS game that doesn't have neither system?ChubbyGuy40

Counter Strike. It's MP is infinitely superior.

Halo CE has my favorite Campaign and Multiplayer still out of all the Halo games. Loved playing Halo 1 online on PC, and on system link on the original Xbox.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] It was better than suddenly regrowing arms and legs after a few seconds.JohnF111

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"] so regrowing arms & legs from 1 health point immediately to 100 after picking up a med kit is better than regrowing them after few seconds?moose_knuckler

G4 says lots of things... when did SW start listening to them? :?

No, get shot and the damage stays, no health packs, no refills... No regeneration. Thats what i want instead of all this run and gunning rubbish Halo has given its hand in creating apparently.JohnF111

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] I edited my post and i admit both systems suck and i'd rather do without.JohnF111

But so is Halo multiplayer (Halo Team Swat, and Slayer Pro). Are you saying you wish the SP campaign to have no regenerative health? If so, do you know of any FPS that has its SP without a regenerative health or health packs?Mystery_Writer

Pretty sure ArmA II doesn't.

That doesn't solve Halo's crap gameplay though. Controller and competitive in FPS? Contradiction IMO.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]But so is Halo multiplayer (Halo Team Swat, and Slayer Pro). Are you saying you wish the SP campaign to have no regenerative health? If so, do you know of any FPS that has its SP without a regenerative health or health packs?ChubbyGuy40

Pretty sure ArmA II doesn't.

That doesn't solve Halo's crap gameplay though. Controller and competitive in FPS? Contradiction IMO.

so the only FPS single player that isn't crap in your opinion is Arma II?Mystery_Writer

You asked for a SP FPS that doesn't have regenerating health or med packs and I provided one.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"] so the only FPS single player that isn't crap in your opinion is Arma II?ChubbyGuy40

You asked for a SP FPS that doesn't have regenerating health or med packs and I provided one.

How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

ChubbyGuy40

On the one hand you complain about the two weapon limit, but on the other hand you say it is unrealistic that you can regenerate health? How many weapons do you think someone can "realistically" carry? Besides, your two complaints are things that exist in nearly every FPS, which actually proves Halo's influence, which is the point of the thread.

However, this question is related to you not liking FPS games with regenerative health/ health packs, and since so far it's only one game (or perhaps a couple) that doesn't do that. I was wondering do you not like any other FPS single player game beside ArmA II?Mystery_Writer

Oh no I do, but I'd rather they didn't. Can't think of them all right now, but some games like Duke Nukem Forever, I really wish they didn't have regen health.

On the one hand you complain about the two weapon limit, but on the other hand you say it is unrealistic that you can regenerate health? How many weapons do you think someone can "realistically" carry? Besides, your two complaints are things that exist in nearly every FPS, which actually proves Halo's influence, which is the point of the thread.

Jurassic85

With games like Halo, that are wanna-be casual arena shooters, 2 weapon limits does not fit. If it wants to be Quake or UT, which it does and even CoD does, it can't have 2-weapon limit. Modern Military shooters are fine. One rifle, one sidearm, other stuff. I never said it was unrealisitc that you can regenerate health in that post, but they shouldn't be in modern-setting games. And GJ missing what I said, which was "for the better." Sorry, but a player shouldn't be able to run and hide just so restore health. Take your death like a man instead of running away.

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How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before.

Jurassic85

On the one hand you complain about the two weapon limit, but on the other hand you say it is unrealistic that you can regenerate health? How many weapons do you think someone can "realistically" carry? Besides, your two complaints are things that exist in nearly every FPS, which actually proves Halo's influence, which is the point of the thread.

While on the other hand he scored CS:S and ArmA II an 8.5 despite having all the positives he claimed Halo lacks.

i think he just doesn't like halo for some other reasons as his most favorite game is Crysis that he scored a 10 despite having the negatives he claimed he disliked about Halo. While on the other hand he scored CS:S and ArmA II an 8.5 despite having all the positives he claimed Halo lacks. And also he scoredMystery_Writer

Never said it was bad for Halo to have those things, but their influence on their genre is for the worst. It did not better it.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]i think he just doesn't like halo for some other reasons as his most favorite game is Crysis that he scored a 10 despite having the negatives he claimed he disliked about Halo. While on the other hand he scored CS:S and ArmA II an 8.5 despite having all the positives he claimed Halo lacks. And also he scoredChubbyGuy40

Never said it was bad for Halo to have those things, but their influence on their genre is for the worst. It did not better it.

But that's not the point of this post. The post isn't, "Halo Multiplayer made everything better," it's "Halo had a strong impact with todays Multiplayer universe."

But that's not the point of this post. The post isn't, "Halo Multiplayer made everything better," it's "Halo had a strong impact with todays Multiplayer universe."

Vaultl101egend

and I'm saying that impact was for the worst.

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But that's not the point of this post. The post isn't, "Halo Multiplayer made everything better," it's "Halo had a strong impact with todays Multiplayer universe."

ChubbyGuy40

and I'm saying that impact was for the worst.

"How? The only game that uses Halo multiplayer...is Halo. What exactly did it change for the better or do first? Regenerating health all the time? Not better. 2 weapon limit? Not better. Vehicles? I think there were PC games with those before."

Your first post.

With games like Halo, that are wanna-be casual arena shooters, 2 weapon limits does not fit. If it wants to be Quake or UT, which it does and even CoD does, it can't have 2-weapon limit. Modern Military shooters are fine. One rifle, one sidearm, other stuff. I never said it was unrealisitc that you can regenerate health in that post, but they shouldn't be in modern-setting games. And GJ missing what I said, which was "for the better." Sorry, but a player shouldn't be able to run and hide just so restore health. Take your death like a man instead of running away.ChubbyGuy40

If you are playing Halo and your enemy is able to run away and regenerate health to avoid you killing them, you seriously need to reevaluate your strategy. That' s not a deficiency in the game's design, that's poor ability on your part. Besides, what's wrong with a player using a tactical move? Shooters shouldn't be all about brawn, there should be brains involved. Its the reason why its more fun to play against a human than it is against bots, humans are smarter. Shame on players for using cover and knowing when they can't win an engagement.

And actually yes you did say that it was unrealistic, when you said that it was "BS". Lastly I find it laughable that you claim Halo is unrealistic for only allowing players to carry two guns, but then you mention Unreal Tournament as superior. I love UT, but I would hardly call it realistic.