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#1  Edited By GodspellWH
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The end result, though, was that publishers just ignored it; there weren’t enough people with one controller to justify development costs, but exclusively appealing to those with two illuminating sticks was suicide.

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http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/03/reaction_project_morpheus_seems_impressive_but_also_a_hard_sell

Here what a developer has to say about it. Apparently its not easy as making VR support on the pc. Not surprise considering their are games even without official VR support that can be done on PC already. Don't ever expect playing AAA games on Morpheus because VR requires more power. So pretty much Sony is selling a headset that will never give you the true VR experience. What you have is what you get and unlike VR on PC your far more restricted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2xwfmk/professional_game_dev_explains_why_sonys_morpheus/

So morpheus will probably get a game that looks like this on the PS4 or some boring Gone Home crap.

PC VR headset playing games that we mostly care about and endless results. End of story.

GTA V also can be played on VR now

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#2 ConanTheStoner
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Sounds pretty damning, but makes sense.

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#3 DeathLordCrime
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VR on console?

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#4  Edited By ABtoxin
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People have been riding this VR stuff to hard. I know VR is being used for other stuff besides gaming which apparently morpheus won't be able to do so its literally a headset that provides mediocre gaming experience. Nobody would spend money for that much and get little. Where are the games? I don't care about playing some puzzle/maze type games.

My conclusion Morpheus will fail hard because why would you spend over 100 dollars to play a few games? The rest will have some use for so there be a enthusiast market that will buy for their rigs.

VR will not survive on gaming a lone.

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#5 Basinboy
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Another strike against the outdated model consoles have been adhering to for the past 20 years.

I'm not so worried that PS4 won't be able to support VR, but am more broadly concerned that Sony and the publishing world won't get behind it and validate its existence.

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#6  Edited By NyaDC
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Even without the reality that the PlayStation 4 is too weak to render anything worthwhile for VR comes the other deathblow reality, it's a closed source system from top to bottom. The only thing that is going to keep VR alive is user created content, that of which will never been seen on the PS4...

Dead from conception.

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#7 Epak_
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Disappointing, but most likely true :(

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#8 hrt_rulz01
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Having not tried any of the upcoming VR headsets yet, it's a bit hard to have an opinion on it... but it kind of feels like the whole 3D thing all over again. It'll be cool, but not sure it's practical. Not yet anyway.

Having said that, I'm actually a fan of 3D for certain movies. But not every movie.

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#9 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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The only way any new form of game controller would be put to any good use is if it 1) Came with the console, 2) Always was used as the main source of playing any game. Otherwise it will simply just be seen as a unnecessary optional device that people would rather do without.

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#10 Nengo_Flow
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Sort of expected this. I could have told you myself that probably like a handful of games this entire gen would be VR compatible on consoles. Plus for devs to make their games VR compatible, they have to spend alot of effort or simply make it VR specific from the beginning, which means risking everything cuz not many people would play it anyways.

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#11 TheTruthIsREAL
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This post is just b8 and reeks of virginity

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#12 silversix_
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Devs are certainly pushing those potatoes to their limits. That's fact. But its not something you'll hear from Sony/MS.

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@TheTruthIsREAL said:

This post is just b8 and reeks of virginity

Because you can clearly tell someones sexual history from a post on Gamespot...

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#14  Edited By TheTruthIsREAL
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@clyde46: I'm sorry, did you get offended? Clearly wasn't my intentions.

Made a typo. Going to bed

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@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@clyde46: I'm sorry, did you get offended? Clearly wasn't my attention.

Offended? No. I'm too jaded for that.

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#16 DEadliNE-Zero0
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VR on consoles? lol

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#17 lglz1337
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and then naughty dog steps in and proves everyone wrong

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#18 Shewgenja
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So, it will be fun confirmed. Developers think it's neat confirmed. All I give a toss about.

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#19 NyaDC
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@Shewgenja said:

So, it will be fun confirmed. Developers think it's neat confirmed. All I give a toss about.

Everyone else is taking "paper weight" away from this because that's really what this closed source piece of junk on under powered hardware is.... and then there is you....

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@lglz1337 said:

and then naughty dog steps in and proves everyone wrong

30fps in VR? Good luck with that

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#21 DEadliNE-Zero0
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why am i talking to pray2me?

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#22  Edited By Shewgenja
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@nyadc said:

@Shewgenja said:

So, it will be fun confirmed. Developers think it's neat confirmed. All I give a toss about.

Everyone else is taking "paper weight" away from this because that's really what this closed source piece of junk on under powered hardware is.... and then there is you....

Well, I am also getting Oculus Rift as well if not Steams VR. Waiting to see which one goes big on PC. I mean, it's not like the developer said it doesn't work. I don't think anyone had the expectancy that Morpheus was going to be plug-and-play for all PS4 games. I'm not trashing the dev for their opinion, just saying that what they said doesn't come as a massive surprise.

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#23  Edited By ProtossX
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shutdown VR shut it down its gonna be another money dump its not working

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#24 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I don't understand the "lol" in the thread title. The sales of Oculus, Morpheus, and the other one are all tied together. One being scene under a negative light is not a good sign for the other.

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#25 CrashNBurn281
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Expected. Kinect 3.0 confirmed.

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#26 RR360DD
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Its a peripheral from Sony. Of course it'll get no support.

It'll be about as fun as PS Move LOL

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#27 AnthonyAutumns
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@lglz1337: Just prepare lots of sickness bags nearby when playing less than 60fps.

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#28 aroxx_ab
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So many excuses from that lazy dev...

Oh and if Ps4 came with that VR it still would have the same "weak hardware"

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#29 FoxbatAlpha
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More like project Bore-Pheus

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#30 Phazevariance
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This gen consoles released at the end of 2013... i expect next gen hardware to come out by end of 2017 because they undershot the hardware too hard on this gen and they know it.

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#31 BruceBenzing
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Kind of ironic to be named after the god of sleep and dreams.....

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#32  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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I've been saying this for ages now. VRs are made for 4K gaming and extremely high frame rates. That said, I don't think VRs will become mainstream anytime soon, even on PC, let alone consoles.

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#33  Edited By DocSanchez
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You have an anonymous message from a supposed single developer. Time to go nuts isn't now.

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#34  Edited By Gue1
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why are the names of some users in a public forum censored? It's not like it's facebook, a personal email or anything.

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#35 foxhound_fox
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Well no shit.

It's on a console that can barely achieve a stable 30fps @ 1080p.

According to HTC and VALVe, the bare minimum resolution and framerate output required to prevent motion sickness is dual 1080x1200 displays @ 90 fps.

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#36 BobRossPerm
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So why are Sony bothering? Surely their developers know as much as this developer who posted this comment and should have saw it coming.

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#37 Zero_epyon  Online
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@Shewgenja said:

So, it will be fun confirmed. Developers think it's neat confirmed. All I give a toss about.

One developer says a Sony product won't be too useful means all dev will think it's useless.

Multiple developers say DX12 won't be too useful means those devs don't know what they're talking about.

So much double standard...

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Supposedly Sony themselves instructed devs to aim for PS3-level of graphics for Morpheus games, as in VR PS4 lacks the power to pull off anythig above it.

Which means they were too late. If they released Morpheus on launch with console they could capitalize on cross-gen games and try to build enough userbase to them make it worthwhile for devs to make separate downraged versions of their next-gen games.

As it is now most studios won't bother, since they moved to next-gen engines and pipelines. And without their support Morpheus sales will lag like hell.

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@Zero_epyon said:

@Shewgenja said:

So, it will be fun confirmed. Developers think it's neat confirmed. All I give a toss about.

One developer says a Sony product won't be too useful means all dev will think it's useless.

Multiple developers say DX12 won't be too useful means those devs don't know what they're talking about.

So much double standard...

which developers said Dx12 won't be too usefull? You mean Xbox ones? That would make sense. It would be surprising to hear the same said from PC devs though. Not when couple of them already have shown how big the jump it offers.

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#40  Edited By Shewgenja
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@AdrianWerner said:

Supposedly Sony themselves instructed devs to aim for PS3-level of graphics for Morpheus games, as in VR PS4 lacks the power to pull off anythig above it.

Which means they were too late. If they released Morpheus on launch with console they could capitalize on cross-gen games and try to build enough userbase to them make it worthwhile for devs to make separate downraged versions of their next-gen games.

As it is now most studios won't bother, since they moved to next-gen engines and pipelines. And without their support Morpheus sales will lag like hell.

See, I really don't get this. If VR takes off on PC, who's to say that it won't carry the PS4 in its wake? Supposedly, the Eve game works out great on Morpheus. So, if that is PS3 level graphics I haven't heard anyone complain about the issue.

Man, at least wait til you try something before arming the torpedoes. That's the worst thing about this thread. People want to throw VR under the bus just over this fanboy war shit. That's the height of uncoolness. VR could really change the way we look at games and the way we play them. It could go fad like wii but then again, it could be really good. OP is cancer.

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#41  Edited By Zero_epyon  Online
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@AdrianWerner said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@Shewgenja said:

So, it will be fun confirmed. Developers think it's neat confirmed. All I give a toss about.

One developer says a Sony product won't be too useful means all dev will think it's useless.

Multiple developers say DX12 won't be too useful means those devs don't know what they're talking about.

So much double standard...

which developers said Dx12 won't be too usefull? You mean Xbox ones? That would make sense. It would be surprising to hear the same said from PC devs though. Not when couple of them already have shown how big the jump it offers.

Note that I said it won't be too useful. There will be some benefits, but none like compared to PC. Devs that state this are CD Projekt and Milestone are the most recent. But the biggest source is Phil Spencer himself. His statements made it clear that he doesn't want consumers expecting major changes. DX12 is more for devs than for consumers.

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#42  Edited By DeathLordCrime
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Didn't cows get hype over this yet the Morpheus is bare bone at best. Your not going to see games with UT quality graphics on it.

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#43 GodspellWH
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@deathlordcrime said:

Didn't cows get hype over this yet the Morpheus is bare bone at best. Your not going to see games with UT quality graphics on it.

PS2 games seem suitable

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#44  Edited By Shewgenja
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@godspellwh said:

@deathlordcrime said:

Didn't cows get hype over this yet the Morpheus is bare bone at best. Your not going to see games with UT quality graphics on it.

PS2 games seem suitable

Keep trying. Your hope is someone will eat your bullshit if you try harder. Go out there and be someone!

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@deathlordcrime said:

Didn't cows get hype over this yet the Morpheus is bare bone at best. Your not going to see games with UT quality graphics on it.

if Morph is bare bones then what is Oculus since its tech is inferior?

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#46 DeathLordCrime
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@Gue1 said:

@deathlordcrime said:

Didn't cows get hype over this yet the Morpheus is bare bone at best. Your not going to see games with UT quality graphics on it.

if Morph is bare bones then what is Oculus since its tech is inferior?

Except for its not

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#47  Edited By GodspellWH
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@Shewgenja said:

Keep trying. Your hope is someone will eat your bullshit if you try harder. Go out there and be someone!

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Not sure why a glitchy demo back in 2014 for a game that looks even below certain last gen games is supposed to mean much. Comeback when you reach a least this level.

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#49 CroidX
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@Gue1 said:

@deathlordcrime said:

Didn't cows get hype over this yet the Morpheus is bare bone at best. Your not going to see games with UT quality graphics on it.

if Morph is bare bones then what is Oculus since its tech is inferior?

Yet hardly any games worthwhile supported

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#50 RossRichard
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Quality VR is still years away. So yeah, next console cycle at least.