Not looking good, MS true intentions might of been revealed (Destroy Playstation ) Activsion deal gone bad:(

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#1  Edited By daredevils2k
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https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/exhibit-k-microsoft-activision

As Microsoft pushes back against the Federal Trade Commission’s attempt to block its proposed Activision bid, a parallel legal battle is adding an intriguing twist.

Driving the news: In an appeal to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court, lawyers representing a group of gamers suing to block the deal over antitrust concerns point to a purported internal Microsoft email they describe as “uncontroverted evidence that Microsoft had the intention to put its main competition, the Sony PlayStation, out of the market.”

  • The contents of the message are redacted, but the plaintiffs say it was sent by Microsoft’s head of Xbox game studios (Matt Booty) to Microsoft’s chief financial officer for Xbox (Tim Stuart).
  • The passage appears to be from Exhibit K, a sealed document that the gamers’ lawyers and Microsoft’s attorneys have been arguing over.
  • In legal documents, Microsoft characterized the email as an “internal exchange” that should remain sealed; a Microsoft rep declined to comment further.
  • Microsoft's lawyers have said the document has had no bearing on the court’s decisions.

Be smart: This suit is a side drama to the FTC’s antitrust case against Microsoft, which is speeding toward more hearings this week.

  • Judge Jacqueline Corley, the same justice overseeing the initial gamer suit, recently agreed to put a short-term hold on the merger — but Microsoft fears that any delay could jeopardize the deal.

What's next: Microsoft and the FTC both shared their witness lists today for their case's hearings this month.

  • The list includes Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, PlayStation chief Jim Ryan, Bethesda head of publishing Pete Hines, Activision CEO Bobby Kotick and numerous Xbox executives, including Booty and Stuart.

If this is true, Game over for MS buying Activsion 😭

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so many sweating xboners

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@nod_calypse said:

so many sweating xboners

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#4 SolidGame_basic
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Yea isn’t Xbox’s biggest markets the US and UK?

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#5 Archangel3371
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A “group of gamers”. 🤣🤣😂

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#6 BenjaminBanklin
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LOL. People on other sites are trying to dismiss it because the letter was written in 2019, as if there's a statute of limitations on wanting a monopoly. 🤣 But, yeah. MS didn't get to where they are by wanting to share a market with competitors. One day, there'll probably be a time when the Xbox logo is front of every major game you want to play

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#7 Randy_Lahey
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MS only wins by buying out and starving the competition - who woulda thought?

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#8 hardwenzen
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Its not with this kind of content that you'll put anyone out of business

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#9 sakaiXx
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@hardwenzen: update your sig bro.

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#10 hardwenzen
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@sakaixx said:

@hardwenzen: update your sig bro.

Nah, i give lems hope with those massive numbers.🤭

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Sony is already in trouble once Starfield releases. Might as well kick em while they're down and let this acquisition go through.

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#12 hardwenzen
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I hope this puts a bit of pressure on Sony to release fking games. I am tired of knowing about nothing else but two superhero games coming to my system. wtf kind of variety is that?

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#13  Edited By firedrakes
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@hardwenzen said:

I hope this puts a bit of pressure on Sony to release fking games. I am tired of knowing about nothing else but two superhero games coming to my system. wtf kind of variety is that?

sony ... first party games... sell systems...

what about the 75% that dont...

sony where are first party...

gamer... answer my question.

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#14 KathaarianCode
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Very concerning.

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#15  Edited By adrian1480
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If it's one thing I do love, it's document evidentiary analysis and impact by the brilliant legal minds of System Wars.

I'll way for the results.

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#16 lamprey263
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I read Judge Corley has no interest in that email. Evidentiary hearings start tomorrow so will be interesting what both parties want submitted into evidence, as well as any challenges to suppress evidence that are made by either parties.

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#17 hardwenzen
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Remember, its the same company that woke up one day and increased XBL price by 2x.

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#18 Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen: They did, when did this happen?

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#19 hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: They did, when did this happen?

Pretty sure it was before you got banned here. The shitstorm was such they reverted it within 24h.

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#20 Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen: So it didn't happen then, OK.

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#21 hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: So it didn't happen then, OK.

Without the internet or the social media, the shitstorm wouldn't be a thing, and that is what you would've gotten. The same applies to Halo Infinite. Imagine if that game launched when it was supposed to🤭

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@hardwenzen: You were incorrect, MS announced they were going to double the price, and the internet brought a shitstorm and rightfully so and MS changed their minds.

Now when Sony announced they were raising game and console prices the internet were like yeah fair enough.

The lesson here, stop worrying about what MS are doing and call out your "godny's" shitty practises too, but, but Halo Imfinite 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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#23 hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: You were incorrect, MS announced they were going to double the price, and the internet brought a shitstorm and rightfully so and MS changed their minds.

Now when Sony announced they were raising game and console prices the internet were like yeah fair enough.

The lesson here, stop worrying about what MS are doing and call out your "godny's" shitty practises too, but, but Halo Imfinite 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Changed their mind? They were forced to go back or this is 2013 Xbone all over again🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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@SolidGame_basic: Correct. The US and UK are the biggest Xbox markets. That's why those are the two countries blocking it, because it's going to impact the local markets. The EU and Asian countries don't care as much, because Xbox isn't as big a deal in those markets. I saw this coming from a mile away, but Xbox fans were in denial just because EU and Asian countries approved.

Furthermore, the US is the home ground for both MS and AB. If the FTSC doesn't approve, then the acquisition is off.

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Ahhh, the weekly cow cope thread.

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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: You were incorrect, MS announced they were going to double the price, and the internet brought a shitstorm and rightfully so and MS changed their minds.

Now when Sony announced they were raising game and console prices the internet were like yeah fair enough.

The lesson here, stop worrying about what MS are doing and call out your "godny's" shitty practises too, but, but Halo Imfinite 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Changed their mind? They were forced to go back or this is 2013 Xbone all over again🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Yes they changed their minds because of the shitstorm, not that hard to understand...oh wait I forgot who I was talking to.

Like I said hold your "godny" to account and stop worrying about the other guy, I mean with you guys worrying about MS, Sony is making Superhero & live service games and you guys have showed them you're keen by boasting about a live service game at their recent show getting 11 million views eew 🤮🤮🤮

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#27 SecretPolice
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Poo bovine brigade.

Will it ever be over for'em? lol :P

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#28  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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Lmao! Shots fired at GameSpot

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#29  Edited By SecretPolice
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@ghostofgolden said:

Lmao! Shot fired at GameSpot

Bout time. lol :P

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#30 EastLand
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It's not really that they want to put PlayStation out of business, but it's something they're definitely prepared to do in order to get to the top. Microsoft are a company know for bullying and shady business practices, it's beyond me how a genuine fan of gaming could support them so vehemently.

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#31 KathaarianCode
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Now I need to know the contents of that email. The best defence GameSpot can have is that their reviews are often mediocre.

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#32 nintendoboy16
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I mean, a huge buyout like this DOES harm competition. Capitalism 101...

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#33  Edited By daredevils2k
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@SecretPolice said:

Poo bovine brigade.

Will it ever be over for'em? lol :P

Its always good to see the founder the Lemmings club sporting the green and also praying for this deal to go thru. @SecretPolice ty for sharing these images of lemmings praying, i didn't know it was this bad for you all.

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#34 SecretPolice
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@daredevils2k:

lol :P

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#35 Pedro
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This Activision deal real keeps the Sony fannies up at night 😂

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#36 jaydan
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@ghostofgolden said:

Lmao! Shots fired at GameSpot

Notice how he only mentioned Gamespot's Sony fanboys. Everyone else, we're in the clear.

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#37 jaydan
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@eastland said:

It's not really that they want to put PlayStation out of business, but it's something they're definitely prepared to do in order to get to the top. Microsoft are a company know for bullying and shady business practices, it's beyond me how a genuine fan of gaming could support them so vehemently.

That's like every big company in existence, including Sony. The only difference is you choose to turn a blind eye to the companies you lean into over your own bias.

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#38 Pedro
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@jaydan said:

Notice how he only mentioned Gamespot's Sony fanboys. Everyone else, we're in the clear.

Not surprising. Sony fannies are the worst after all.😂

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@SecretPolice said:
@ghostofgolden said:

Lmao! Shot fired at GameSpot

Bout time. lol :P

6Spot confirmed.. 😏

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#40  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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From TCs OWN link once again. Always read a link from daredevils2k. He's selective about what he copies from it.

"A Microsoft representative told Axios that the company cannot legally share the email's contents, but that it was sent by Booty in 2019."

So when this was said it had nothing to do with the Activision deal.

What do Playstation fans think the point of all those third party exclusives and timed exclusives are for? They're not for the fans that's for sure.

I mean, I am REALLY looking forward to Final Fantasy on Xbox tomorrow... Oh wait.

The whole reason the Switch is in its current form, is because Nintendo can't compete in Playstations home console market... Did the bosses at Sony write Nintendo a sorry letter, for "bullying them out of the market"? :-S

MS can't do anything by themselves. Playstation can adapt or not. Just like Nintendo.

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Bye, bye Microsoft

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#42 Silentchief
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Buh buh iTs oNlY AboUt tEh ClOud.

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#44 dabear
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@daredevils2k: that gamer lawsuit is a joke. I am surprised it passes summary judgement.

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#45 dabear
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@randy_lahey said:

MS only wins by buying out and starving the competition - who woulda thought?

It's you, right? You're the one who's going to owe me $100?

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@eastland said:

It's not really that they want to put PlayStation out of business, but it's something they're definitely prepared to do in order to get to the top. Microsoft are a company know for bullying and shady business practices, it's beyond me how a genuine fan of gaming could support them so vehemently.

AND SONY IS NOT?!?!?!?!!!

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#47  Edited By daredevils2k
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

From TCs OWN link once again. Always read a link from daredevils2k. He's selective about what he copies from it.

"A Microsoft representative told Axios that the company cannot legally share the email's contents, but that it was sent by Booty in 2019."

So when this was said it had nothing to do with the Activision deal.

What do Playstation fans think the point of all those third party exclusives and timed exclusives are for? They're not for the fans that's for sure.

I mean, I am REALLY looking forward to Final Fantasy on Xbox tomorrow... Oh wait.

The whole reason the Switch is in its current form, is because Nintendo can't compete in Playstations home console market... Did the bosses at Sony write Nintendo a sorry letter, for "bullying them out of the market"? :-S

MS can't do anything by themselves. Playstation can adapt or not. Just like Nintendo.

@dabear said:

@daredevils2k: that gamer lawsuit is a joke. I am surprised it passes summary judgement.

Ive never seen so many butthurt lems in my life before. How is MS going to explain to the court that in 2019 they wanted to destroy Sony, but all of sudden changed their mind ? Yah good luck on that one guys, because MS pretty much screwed themselves 🤣

heres some tissues

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#48 KathaarianCode
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@daredevils2k: You say that but you're the one obsessively making threads.

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#49  Edited By daredevils2k
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@daredevils2k: You say that but you're the one obsessively making threads.

LOL you do understand that you're visiting the system war forums right? My only advice to cure your butthurtness is to visit the Xbox forums. Its a forum dedicated to xbox fans were they could feel safe and rehash the glory days of the xbox 360.(

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@daredevils2k said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

From TCs OWN link once again. Always read a link from daredevils2k. He's selective about what he copies from it.

"A Microsoft representative told Axios that the company cannot legally share the email's contents, but that it was sent by Booty in 2019."

So when this was said it had nothing to do with the Activision deal.

What do Playstation fans think the point of all those third party exclusives and timed exclusives are for? They're not for the fans that's for sure.

I mean, I am REALLY looking forward to Final Fantasy on Xbox tomorrow... Oh wait.

The whole reason the Switch is in its current form, is because Nintendo can't compete in Playstations home console market... Did the bosses at Sony write Nintendo a sorry letter, for "bullying them out of the market"? :-S

MS can't do anything by themselves. Playstation can adapt or not. Just like Nintendo.

@dabear said:

@daredevils2k: that gamer lawsuit is a joke. I am surprised it passes summary judgement.

Ive never seen so many butthurt lems in my life before. How is MS going to explain to the court that in 2019 they wanted to destroy Sony, but all of sudden changed their mind ? Yah good luck on that one guys, because MS pretty much screwed themselves 🤣

heres some tissues

Because no one else is surprised or gives a shit.