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#1 FreedomFreeLife
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So, Playstation Neo is more powerful console but all games that are made on Playstation Neo are made with PS4 original space and then you have "unlock" option that allows you to unlock better graphics and frame rate just like when you play game on "normal" mode but now you can play on "hard".

Yeah, all games that are made on PS4 and PS4 Neo are made on PS4 space but some game developers allows NEO users unlock better graphics and frame rate.

This makes all sense and does not cost any big costs. It's just optimal.

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#2 FreedomFreeLife
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It could be possible that they reduced costs and sell more powerful hardware at PS4 price and PS4 are no longer made but only PS4NEO just like PS2 Slim or PS3 Slim

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#3 Telekill
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I heard this rumor as well but until an official announcement that's all this is... a rumor. Granted, this is how I hope Sony handles it.

I won't be upgrading to PS4K until my current PS4 bricks. If it doesn't brick then I'll be waiting for PS5 and probably a price drop for it if it doesn't have appealing games.

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#4 kvally
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Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

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#5  Edited By NFJSupreme
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Thought this was already understood.

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#6 BigBadBully
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It's pretty sweet and hopefully they'll stick with making sure your content follows you to all future upgrades. Even with the limited scope of xbox one bc, my library of games is immense and it's awesome being able to call up titles from the past and catch up along with current gen all in one place.

I like what Sony is doing, if this is indeed how it works. Only negative is that NEO is handcuffed for parity with PS4. Maybe later down the road they'll get exclusives built specifically for it.

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#7 MonsieurX
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10/10 thread, would read again

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#8 lostrib
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Thank God. We were almost out of Neo threads

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Oh that's how it works

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#10 FreedomFreeLife
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@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

No, PS4 Neo is Playstation 4 but Neo has just extra future that gives you better frame rate. Like developers said, it's not different than PC graphics change.

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#11 Shadowchronicle
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Can we call it the ps4 slim?

that's all it freaking is at this point

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Okay, so does that mean saying bye bye to teh console optimizationzzzzzzzzzzz that consolites used to hype over PC.? I mean you can't have your cake and eat it too. :P

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#13 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: there were around 10 Nintendo/NX threads yesterday on the front page alone.

Why is it only NEO/Sony threads you're complaining about.

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#14 kvally
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@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

No, PS4 Neo is Playstation 4 but Neo has just extra future that gives you better frame rate. Like developers said, it's not different than PC graphics change.

Nah, it's their new gen.

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#15  Edited By FreedomFreeLife
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@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

No, PS4 Neo is Playstation 4 but Neo has just extra future that gives you better frame rate. Like developers said, it's not different than PC graphics change.

Nah, it's their new gen.

So Playstation 2 Slim was new gen and PS3 slim was new gen?

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#16  Edited By kvally
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@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

No, PS4 Neo is Playstation 4 but Neo has just extra future that gives you better frame rate. Like developers said, it's not different than PC graphics change.

Nah, it's their new gen.

So Playstation 2 Slim was new gen and PS3 slim was new gen?

So PS2 slim and PS3 slim doubled in performance and had developers complaining that they had to code for a new machine in addition to the old machine? It's their gen 9.

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@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

well, PS4 won gen 8th a little bit too easily so its time for 9th gen.

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#18 kvally
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@silversix_ said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

well, PS4 won gen 8th a little bit too easily so its time for 9th gen.

Works for me! BRING IT!!!!

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#19 blackace
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@FreedomFreeLife: Didn't Sony say every game released in Sept and beyond will have to support the PS4 Neo or was this all just a rumor as well? I have no plans on getting the PS4 Neo anytime soon either. My PS4 works just fine. Not shelling out another $400 for a few graphical upgrades and better fps.

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#20 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Is this thread for real? This has been common knowledge for weeks now. Does it take all cows this long to process information?

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#21  Edited By casharmy
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@GoldenElementXL said:

Is this thread for real? This has been common knowledge for weeks now. Does it take all cows this long to process information?

Same could be said for lemmings as well considering recent arguments...

but ya know, fanboys only see what they want to see only and only have bones to pick the the fans they have an irrational grudge against.

I was going to comment on the uselessness of this thread but there was no point, then I saw your comment which was not only unwarranted but hypocritical since Ny's thread exists (which you were in) and hordes of lemmings didn't seem to be able to "process" this information here.

Virtually every other post you make is some idiotic post trying to demean Sony fans, like STFU. It's system wars not fanboy wars. It's like the only thing dumb playstation hating fanboys seem to do now a days. Post on the topic and stop being such deranged Sony fan hating lunatic.

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#22 FreedomFreeLife
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@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

No, PS4 Neo is Playstation 4 but Neo has just extra future that gives you better frame rate. Like developers said, it's not different than PC graphics change.

Nah, it's their new gen.

So Playstation 2 Slim was new gen and PS3 slim was new gen?

So PS2 slim and PS3 slim doubled in performance and had developers complaining that they had to code for a new machine in addition to the old machine? It's their gen 9.

You are clearly wrong. They don't have to new code and anything new. Like developers said, it's like PC graphics setting change and you don't need any code. It's like DLC extra thing but won't change console since all games are made to PS4 console and Neo is just DLC that give you extra content just like Slim gave more quiet console and thinner even when it's same console

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#23 PSP107
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The PS2 Slim was really a work of art.

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#24  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Gen 9 is upon us! We definitely need stronger hardware for all those inspiring AAA games.

Sadly the best games this generation could've been played on last gen consoles, but for some reason no one cares about that. Just force out some new hardware and that should fix the utter lack of new ideas in multimillion dollar gaming.

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@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

Well! that will be NX in 2017!

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#26 kvally
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@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:

No, PS4 Neo is Playstation 4 but Neo has just extra future that gives you better frame rate. Like developers said, it's not different than PC graphics change.

Nah, it's their new gen.

So Playstation 2 Slim was new gen and PS3 slim was new gen?

So PS2 slim and PS3 slim doubled in performance and had developers complaining that they had to code for a new machine in addition to the old machine? It's their gen 9.

You are clearly wrong. They don't have to new code and anything new. Like developers said, it's like PC graphics setting change and you don't need any code. It's like DLC extra thing but won't change console since all games are made to PS4 console and Neo is just DLC that give you extra content just like Slim gave more quiet console and thinner even when it's same console

Not sure how I am wrong, when I never stated any facts or opinions. I was merely commenting on the few developer responses out there that have the dev kits that said they were not happy with having to code to both of the different platforms. So I assume, you are stating that the developers making the games are wrong?

And are you stating that the PS2 slim and PS3 slim doubled in performance from the original PS2 phat and PS3 phat respectively?

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@casharmy said:
@GoldenElementXL said:

Is this thread for real? This has been common knowledge for weeks now. Does it take all cows this long to process information?

Same could be said for lemmings as well considering recent arguments...

but ya know, fanboys only see what they want to see only and only have bones to pick the the fans they have an irrational grudge against.

I was going to comment on the uselessness of this thread but there was no point, then I saw your comment which was not only unwarranted but hypocritical since Ny's thread exists (which you were in) and hordes of lemmings didn't seem to be able to "process" this information here.

Virtually every other post you make is some idiotic post trying to demean Sony fans, like STFU. It's system wars not fanboy wars. It's like the only thing dumb playstation hating fanboys seem to do now a days. Post on the topic and stop being such deranged Sony fan hating lunatic.

What thread are you talking about? And I have no problem with Sony fans. I'm a Sony fan. It's Cows I have a problem with. But I don't lose any sleep over it or anything. I just like taking jabs and pointing out the weekly flip flopping and mental gymnastics. Something you seem to enjoy taking part in. And where is this "horde of Lemmings" you speak of? There are like 3 or 4 of them on this board.

The problem with System Wars is that anytime a person questions or dislikes ANYTHING about Sony they are automatically a Lemming. charizard1605 is a Sheep for the most part but has no problems criticizing Nintendo when they deserve it. The real problem here is the actual "horde" of people that will throw all logic and reason out the window in order to praise Sony. Sales matter, then they don't, then they do. Gamespot scores matter unless the Metacritic is higher. 1080p only until a PS4 game is 900p. Then it's OK. There is no such thing as a "Console Exclusive" until Sony puts it on a box. Online subscription fees are bad until PS+. I can go on and on. Have some f***ing principles and stand by them. And yes, Lemmings can be just as bad. But like I said, there aren't that many of them here anymore. Cows have been handed a golden opportunity to take the win this generation and run with it. Instead they are fighting against last generations Lemmings, and looking like the biggest hypocrites on the internet while doing it.

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#28 Chutebox
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@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

You don't have to troll in every thread that deals with this.

And ya, it's going to be easy. It's just two different settings.

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#29 kvally
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@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

You don't have to troll in every thread that deals with this.

And ya, it's going to be easy. It's just two different settings.

No trolling here. But thanks. Oh, and:

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/04/19/ps4-5-neo-sony-playstation-4/

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#30  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

You don't have to troll in every thread that deals with this.

And ya, it's going to be easy. It's just two different settings.

No trolling here. But thanks. Oh, and:

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/04/19/ps4-5-neo-sony-playstation-4/

Colin Moriarty is doing whatever he can for clicks. He has to do something since he had that bright idea to leave IGN to start Kinda Funny Games. 4 guys trying to live off of $17K a month in San Francisco was a bad move. Making up drama for clicks may be even worse. PC and console devs have been making games for different spec machines/consoles for decades. Colin is just upset he's gonna have to cut back on the Ramen in order to afford his lord and saviors new, updated console.

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#31 kvally
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@GoldenElementXL said:
@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

You don't have to troll in every thread that deals with this.

And ya, it's going to be easy. It's just two different settings.

No trolling here. But thanks. Oh, and:

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/04/19/ps4-5-neo-sony-playstation-4/

Colin Moriarty is doing whatever he can for clicks. He has to do something since he had that bright idea to leave IGN to start Kinda Funny Games. 4 guys trying to live off of $13K a month in San Francisco was a bad move. Making up drama for clicks may be even worse. PC and console devs have been making games for different spec machines/consoles for decades. Colin is just upset he's gonna have to cut back on the Ramen in order to afford his lord and saviors new, updated console.

Besides that, his previous postings have been spot on with his inside news. So we trust he is accurate here as well.

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#32 Chutebox
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@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:

Gen 9 already? RIP PS4.

You don't have to troll in every thread that deals with this.

And ya, it's going to be easy. It's just two different settings.

No trolling here. But thanks. Oh, and:

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/04/19/ps4-5-neo-sony-playstation-4/

You are trolling.

That link takes me to an page error.

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#33 kvally
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@Chutebox: enough

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#34 Chutebox
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@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough

Enough what? What was the link supposed to say?

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#35 kvally
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@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

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@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

I'm the one trolling now? haha. Funny

And? Who cares about that? If they want money, they'll do it.

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@GoldenElementXL said:

Is this thread for real? This has been common knowledge for weeks now. Does it take all cows this long to process information?

He is not a cow...

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#38  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

No, it was not "also confirmed at Giant Bomb."

"Reports corroborated by Giant Bomb go on to suggest that, come October, each PlayStation 4 title will ship with a “Base Mode” for those users with original hardware, and a “NEO Mode” to support Sony’s PS4.5/PS4K"

Nowhere in that quote does any Giant Bomb staff member criticize the the cost or difficulty of making PS4 Neo features or claim that a developer is "not happy." That is all coming from Colin "please send me your donations" Moriarty.

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#39  Edited By kvally
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@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

I'm the one trolling now? haha. Funny

And? Who cares about that? If they want money, they'll do it.

WTF?

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#40 tormentos
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@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

lol Colin ...

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#41  Edited By Chutebox
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@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

I'm the one trolling now? haha. Funny

And? Who cares about that? If they want money, they'll do it.

WTF?

I don't know what was so hard to understand.

Also, daaammmnnn:

@GoldenElementXL said:
@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

No, it was not "also confirmed at Giant Bomb."

"Reports corroborated by Giant Bomb go on to suggest that, come October, each PlayStation 4 title will ship with a “Base Mode” for those users with original hardware, and a “NEO Mode” to support Sony’s PS4.5/PS4K"

Nowhere in that quote does any Giant Bomb staff member criticize the the cost or difficulty of making PS4 Neo features or claim that a developer is "not happy." That is all coming from Colin "please send me your donations" Moriarty.

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#42 kvally
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@GoldenElementXL said:
@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

No, it was not "also confirmed at Giant Bomb."

"Reports corroborated by Giant Bomb go on to suggest that, come October, each PlayStation 4 title will ship with a “Base Mode” for those users with original hardware, and a “NEO Mode” to support Sony’s PS4.5/PS4K"

Nowhere in that quote does any Giant Bomb staff member criticize the the cost or difficulty of making PS4 Neo features or claim that a developer is "not happy." That is all coming from Colin "please send me your donations" Moriarty.

Spin it. Right here they even state that they are two different systems, that will have to be sold side by side, that each system will have different mandates from Sony, requiring them to meet certain standards for one machine (REQUIRED), and not for the other:

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/sources-the-upgraded-playstation-4-is-codenamed-ne/1100-5437/

They will be required to make a day one patch for September, add parity support for peripherals as well.

So yes, we have a confirmation that many developers are NOT happy with this, and even the leaked papers are showing some Sony requirements and patches that will have to be made.

I trust those two sources than I do some random forum goer.

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@tormentos said:
@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

lol Colin ...

lol nathandrakeswag

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@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

I'm the one trolling now? haha. Funny

And? Who cares about that? If they want money, they'll do it.

WTF?

I don't know what was so hard to understand.

Also, daaammmnnn:

@GoldenElementXL said:
@kvally said:

@Chutebox: enough of your trolling. The link says:

"most developers are not happy with PS4.5, and having to develop around it. Extra cost, planning, other nonsense."

Also confirmed at Giant Bomb.

No, it was not "also confirmed at Giant Bomb."

"Reports corroborated by Giant Bomb go on to suggest that, come October, each PlayStation 4 title will ship with a “Base Mode” for those users with original hardware, and a “NEO Mode” to support Sony’s PS4.5/PS4K"

Nowhere in that quote does any Giant Bomb staff member criticize the the cost or difficulty of making PS4 Neo features or claim that a developer is "not happy." That is all coming from Colin "please send me your donations" Moriarty.

You don't know what is so hard to understand? What does your comment about "if devs want to make money, they have no choice" have to do with the thread "could really work and easy" when many developers have stated just the opposite and they are NOT happy.

That is what we don't understand about your comment.

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#46 Chutebox
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@kvally: What the hell are you talking about? Where in that link does it show developers are not happy?

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#47  Edited By Chutebox
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@kvally: It doesn't matter if they're happy or not. If they want to make money from Sony consoles, they'll deal with it.

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@Chutebox said:

@kvally: What the hell are you talking about? Where in that link does it show developers are not happy?

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#49  Edited By Chutebox
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@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:

@kvally: What the hell are you talking about? Where in that link does it show developers are not happy?

Not in the link you posted and that isn't evidence. It's just a guy saying peeps not happy.

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#50  Edited By kvally
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@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:

@kvally: What the hell are you talking about? Where in that link does it show developers are not happy?

Not in the link you posted and that isn't evidence. It's just a guy saying peeps not happy.

LOL, just a guy. Ok. He works with developers and know developers (you know who he is right?). What experience do you have with NEO, and what have devs told you or Sony told you?