Switch Quarterly Results - 139.36 million units life time! Switch the best selling console in Japan all time.

And you seem to forget that out of the last 5 home consoles that Nintendo had made, only 2 of them won their respected generation counting the switch. Ever since the Super Nintendo, Nintendo have been failing at home consoles until the Wii debuted (2 generations later).

It was also due to people like Miyamoto complaining about casual gamers. His issue with them was that they wanted him to create entertaining products. That was literally it... So he tried to pivot to the hardcore PlayStation and Xbox type gamer. Yet he learned a hard lesson with the Wii U. Sure, casual gamers will demand that you service them, but they'll buy your products. Hardcore gamers will demand that you service them, and they're not even guaranteed to buy your product! 😅

Its extremely easy for Nintendo to farm all hardcore gamers, including those who primarily game on pc, and don't really care about console, but do feel nostalgic about nintendo titles (which would apply to most millennials). Create a system that is on par with Sony's system specs. Doesn't need to be stronger, and it can't be noticeably weaker. Create an online infrastructure that doesn't feel like you've discovered a time capsule from 2003. Make sure to get ALL third party titles for your system. If you're getting only 3-5/10 third party games like their last powerful system, the GC, this shit is not gonna work. You must, at all costs, get every single third party game there is, so the likes of me, could look at its yearly lineup, and don't feel like shit missing on the elden ring's expansion, dragon's dogma 2 and so on. That is absolutely all that is needed for success.

If they do this, they can have all the lastest visuals running at 60fps like the other two systems. And they don't even need to have much higher quality assets for their Mario games. Just imagine having a Nintendo system where you're playing, say Mario Galaxy 3 with SMB Wonder visuals, but with actual anti aliasing, native 4k, and because the visuals aren't demanding, the game would run at 120fps. Wouldn't that be nice? I mean holy ****. You have your simple looking titles that look clean af, and run at super high frames, but you also have access to high fidelity visuals when needed, and what game that needs it bad? METROID.

This is the winning formula for them, but every single time that i, or somebody else mentions Nintendo releasing a strong system, you have dumbasses that quote you with "bu bu but it didn't work with the GC" bullshit, and i am sick of hearing it for 20 years. Those people need to use their brains before they type this shit, because that system had a shitload of flaws, and its failure has nothing to do with it being powerful.

@hardwenzen: Nintendo doesn't have the money like a big mega multi media corporation like Sony. The are a small toy company who goes all in on its product. Sony would easily spend money to block Nintendo like the evil greedy Chinese supporting dictators they are. As they have done in the past and continue to do. Sony doesn't innovate, the spend million and millions of dollars to imitate. They are the plague of society and everything that's wrong with it.

Hmm. NES, SNES, Wii, and Switch. And out of their Handheld consoles they undefeated. Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, DS, 3DS, and Switch. And Nintendo didn't need CD, DVD, Blu-ray gimmicks to help boost sales. Nor did they need to sell to terrorist as cheap missile launches, but hey, that's life.

Nintendo is not a basement company with $15 in the bank. To create an off the shelves system that matches the other two is not out of the question. They've already done it multiple generations in a row (back when building their systems was actually difficult because of custom hardware), and its only with their trashy failures like the WiiU that we're gonna just accept them being 2-3 generations behind the others? Wtf kind of acceptance phase is that?

What they have released from the Wii and on, has been a catastrophic joke for any kind of "hardcore" gamer, and that is why nobody takes them seriously. If they were to release something like the GC was for its time, and even tho powerful, it still not gonna be taken seriously because its flaws were all over the place.

But hey, its Nintendo... the ones in charge are all in their 80's. I know what to expect, a gimmick focused, underpowered af system aimed at people that play candy crush on a bus. No thanks, you can keep your catastrophic disaster of a system.

@hardwenzen: And you can expect Sony to continue coping them. The little man always suffers from these greedy mega corporations.

If they were copying them, they would be releasing a gimmick based system with specs from the mid 2000's. Sorry🤦‍♂️

Switch coming for the PS2 record... Just over 15 million away.

Best-sellers of each generation:

• Gen 1 - Nintendo - Color TV Game
• Gen 2 - Atari - 2600
• Gen 3 - Nintendo - NES
• Gen 4 - Nintendo - SNES
• Gen 5 - Sony - PS1
• Gen 6 - Sony - PS2
• Gen 7 - Nintendo - Wii
• Gen 8 - Nintendo - Switch
• Gen 9 - Sony - PS5 (so far)

Overall:

1. Nintendo - 5 generations
2. Sony - 3 generations (so far)
3. Atari - 1 generation

@Jag85: Xbox is nowhere to be seen. And Phil chooses to be the most defeatist CEO in ever trying.

Microsoft is like Sega all over again. They never won a generation before going third party. But after Sega went third party, the quality of their games declined. That could be a bad sign of things to come for Microsoft games.

No, instead they merged their handheld fanbase with their console fanbase because their console fanbase was dismal at best. At least with the ps2 those 155 million units were all ps2 CONSOLES. This figure doesn’t only included switch CONSOLE sales but all versions of the switch in which we BOTH know that the switch lite is a full fledged handheld.

That's why I don't get why people wanted the same for Nintendo. They fantasize about Nintendo games on their PC, Xbox, and PlayStation, but who's to say that Nintendo would keep up that same quality? Also, who's to say that Metroid would be on those platforms? Nintendo would likely just be making Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda.

The PS2 didn't compete with the rise of mobile and PC gaming. Plus PS2 sold as a dvd gimmick. It was cheapest DVD player people could buy. Also it was easily hacked which terrorist bought millions to launch missiles with.

Switch is now best selling Handheld and Home Console. It destroyed all. Xbox Series nor PS5 can ever catch up to Switch. Neither can Steam Deck and all the other companies trying to copy Nintendo.

Sony are imitators, not innovators like Nintendo. Sony follow trends while Nintendo sets them. Sony are clowns.

When they have their own hardware, that motivates them to push themselves harder and make their exclusives stand out from the competition. When they go third-party, they lose that drive and motivation. That's what happened with Sega when they went third-party, whereas Nintendo's output remained high quality after remaining in the hardware game.

You’re forgetting the Wii-U. The Wii-U was in the same generation as the ps4, and x1. The switch is in the same generation as the ps5 and xss/xsx.

And again, the switch numbers are skewed when factoring categories. The switch is a hybrid between a console and a handheld, but the switch lite isn’t a console at all, yet those switch lite numbers are included with the overall switch sales numbers. It’s like counting every pc sales as an Xbox because the pc can have the same exact interface as the Xbox.

The list is for the best-seller of each generation, not the worst-seller of a generation.

Switch is a grey area. Depending on how you categorize generations, it could be considered either Gen 7 (power level), Gen 8 (previous competition) or Gen 9 (current competition). I think Gen 8 is a good middle-ground to place the Switch.

The reason why I stated the WiI-U was because in that generation the ps4 was the best seller. The switch generation have yet to be determined seeing that the ps5 and the series consoles are still in stride.

@ermacness: Gen 9 officially began with the PS5 and XBS release in 2020. Switch came out in 2017. Switch is Gen 8. Just because it's competing with the PS5 and XBS now, that doesn't make it Gen 9. By that logic, NES would be Gen 4 since it was competing with the Mega Drive and PC Engine, or PS1 would be Gen 6 since it was competing with Dreamcast. It's normal for successful consoles to continue selling into the next generation.

It will pass the PS2. They will sell both, giving the Switch the entry level pricing and the next gen Nintendo console a higher price point.

Well I’m not keen on the generation before the ps1 because while I was gaming I was very young. I do know that Nintendo set themselves up in a different generational bracket with the Wii. How I define generations within each console, (excluding the pc because the pc doesn’t really do generations) is based upon advancement above their predecessors. Even though the Wii was VERY far from the ps3/360, it was still an advanced from the GameCube. Now while alot of platforms are backwards compatible, none of them are forward compatible (meaning you can’t put a game that is for a current gen platform on it’s predecessor and expect it to play).

Gen 9 officially began with the Switch, followed by Series X|S and PS5. Wii U is Gen 8 with PS4 and Xbox One. Wii is gen 7 with PS3 and 360.

Nintendo doesn't care about generations they do there own thing.

PC doesn't care about generations either. And oddly enough, PC and Nintendo do the best and they are the only two that don't give a **** about generations.

Wii was not really an advancement over the GameCube. It was just a repackaged GameCube with slightly higher clock rate and motion controls. But since it came out after the X360, it's considered Gen 7. That's not the case with Switch, which came out three years before the PS5 and XBS. No one called the Switch a Gen 9 console before 2020. That's anachronic historical revisionism, retroactively categorizing Switch as Gen 9 when no one called it that before 2020.

What followed the Gen 8 Wii U?

The PS2 was the cheapest DVD player when it came out. So it was a no brainer to get the PS2 since you get a DVD player plus a game system in one for a good price.

We don’t see eye to eye as much, but THANK YOU for posting this.

The WiiU was in the same generation as the ps4/x1. The switch kicked off this current generation. How much of an advancement the Wii was to the GameCube is completely subjective it the fact is that the Wii was an advancement to the GameCube.

@ermacness:

It's not unusual for a company to launch two consoles in the same generation. It's happened before a few times:

• Gen 2 - Atari 2600 and 5200
• Gen 3 - Sega SG-1000 and Master System
• Gen 4 - TurboGrafx and SuperGrafx
• Gen 8 - Wii U and Switch

Again, if no one called the Switch a Gen 9 console back in 2019, there's no reason why we should start calling it Gen 9 now. Nintendo didn't launch the Switch as a next-gen successor to the Wii U, but launched it as an alternative to the Wii U and 3DS.

Incorrect. Kvally already posted proof that Nintendo launched the switch as a successor to BOTH the Wii U and the 3ds. This is why Nintendo stopped production of the Wii U and the 3ds respectively. If a company stops production of a console when they have a better/newer version out currently that usually means that they’re phasing out the older version to promote more of the newer version.

@ermacness: The Switch is next-gen compared to the 3DS, but not the Wii U. The power level of the Switch is not much higher than the Wii U. The Switch is not a next-gen leap over the Wii U.

Either way, no one was calling the Switch a Gen 9 console back in 2019. It's anachronistic to call it Gen 9 when it wasn't called that for the first 3 years of its life.

Umm what???!?!!!

BotW clearly showed the exact opposite to be the case.🤣🤣🤣

Even Nintendo themselves considered the switch as “the next generation”, and there were some people who stated that the switch officially kicked off gen 9.

@ermacness: You do realize BotW is also on the Wii U, and that the Wii U version looks almost identical to the Switch version, right? 😂

Switch is not gen 8, its current gen 9. The PS4 won gen 8, and Switch is winning gen 9.

@last_lap: You're just repeating what ermac said. See my responses above.

Wii U = Gen 8

Switch = Gen 9

You’re arguing semantics. You’re acknowledging that the switch IS more powerful but not by much, in which you’re using a “metric” on how much more powerful it have to be to be considered next gen, in which I’m not. The switch has ALL the hallmarks to be considered as a “next generation“ platform to the WiiU.

Yup, Switch is gen 9 for sure. Nintendo confirmed this too.

Ah so you're basing it on power, it has nothing to do with power. Nintendo ceased production of the WiiU and released the Switch. you can't play WiiU games on the Switch and vice versa. As kvallys Nintendo tweet showed its Nintendo's next generation device.

So is the PS5 a "generational" leap over the PS4? no its not, and yet you will say PS5 is gen 9 and PS4 gen 8.

So, in summary the Switch is officially a gen 9 machine.

I've already explained why I listed Switch as Gen 8. In summary:

• Its power level is barely Gen 7, let alone Gen 9.
• Console generations were defined by power level for most of video game history.
• It's insane to list a console weaker than Gen 8 consoles as a Gen 9 console.
• I've never seen Nintendo call it Gen 9.
• No one called it Gen 9 before the PS5 and XBS released in 2020.
• It's not the first time that a company released two consoles within the same generation.

Dude, YOU are the only one who is claiming that the switch isn’t a gen 9 console. Your metrics are laughable at best. Your 1st point is COMPLETELY ludicrous. The 360/ps3 were barely able to do 720p. The switch can do that in HANDHELD mode. So basically a portable platform is capable of 360/ps3 capabilities, and we’re not even talking about it being in “docked” mode.

@Jag85: Generations were never defined by power. You just made that up.

Argumentum ad populum. Logical fallacy 101.

The 360/ps3 were barely able to do 720p. The switch can do that in HANDHELD mode. So basically a portable platform is capable of 360/ps3 capabilities

Well done proving my point that Switch is Gen 7 power level.

This is blatant historical revisionism, and you know it. Every single generation up until Gen 7 was defined by power levels. They were called 8-bit era, 16-bit era, 32-bit era, etc. for a reason.

1. So that’s your run to now?

2. I was responding to your ridiculous claim about the switch “barely“ being gen 7. Now you moved the goalposts to a co point that I was never arguing. I’ve never said that the switch was as powerful as the competition, but that I was more powerful that the previous iterations of Nintendo consoles.

You're the one moving the goal post. See my original response again:

In other words, Switch power level is in the same ball park as Gen 7 consoles. You're basically just arguing with a strawman at this point.

They released new systems. That was the determining factor. These new systems were more powerful. But, the generation were defined by the company moving away from supporting one hardware in support of the newer. It being more powerful just came with the territory and incorrectly became synonymous to generation defining.