VGC: Phil Spencer may be remembered as the man who killed Xbox

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#51 SolidGame_basic
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@Pedro and @Antwan3K OMG you guys, congratulations! What's it like living rent-free in peoples' heads? It must be so nice.

Golden got all three of you 😄

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#52 robert_sparkes
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Phil Spencer was the reason ms are still in the console business. They were close to closing so had to adapt and do things differently.

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#53 Pedro
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@robert_sparkes said:

Phil Spencer was the reason ms are still in the console business. They were close to closing so had to adapt and do things differently.

Silly person. Xbox is dead. 😏

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#54 dabear
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Xbox is in 3rd? There 2nd in revenue.

If they pull off that "Steam and Epic stores on Xbox", the PS6 will be DOA.

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#55 SargentD
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Uncle Phil is cool. I got no beef

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#56  Edited By nintendoboy16
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The lack of self-awareness in this man...

One thumb drive short of replacing Randy Pitchford.

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#57 Sam3231
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For crying out loud when the NEXT generation consoles are here are we going to have to hear this shit again? Xdoomed! Microdoomed I tell you!

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#59 Sam3231
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@SolidGame_basic: My favorite moment was the announcement of the Play Anywhere program, which has been a pretty nice perk for Xbox/PC owners.

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#60 Archangel3371  Online
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Tough call on picking one favourite moment but I loved the backwards compatibility initiative, first party games releasing day one on Game Pass, and getting a good number of big name Japanese games to come to the Xbox platform.

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#61 Sam3231
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@Archangel3371 said:

Tough call on picking one favourite moment but I loved the backwards compatibility initiative, first party games releasing day one on Game Pass, and getting a good number of big name Japanese games to come to the Xbox platform.

Backwards compatibility was the straw that broke the camel's back for me in 2015ish, when I was contemplating a PS4. But I decided on Xbox One and was happy I did. I don't own a ton of physical games per se, but Xbox has seen its fair share of classics across generations that I can play digitally.

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#62 SecretPolice
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The man, the myth, the Legend!! :P

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#63 dabear
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@SolidGame_basic: This is a case of someone looking at MS's business through the lense of Sony's business model.

The fact is, most people agree that in 10 years, we won't have consoles anymore. At least, we won't have consoles like we do today.

This is a typical "game journalist" who doesn't know what he is talking about.

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@SolidGame_basic: its a dumb article...because it mentions xbox has had no big AAA exclusive games. Well, COD belongs to MS, so does diablo and all that jazz. You forget halo infinite, starfield, forza horizon, motorsport and so on. These are gigantic games, and cost more to make than all of the trash on sonys consoles. Not to mention the elephant in the room, the 800lb gorilla which is gamepass.

The problem has absolutely nothing to do with games, in fact its the exact opposite. There are so many games, xbox is flooded. The problem is the audience, and its just like Phil says...the people are not really on the xbox platform, they are more interested in the playstation platform and the switch platform. The people are elsewhere, because those consoles drove more interest and engagement, and have locked them down to a large extent. We could have the best game ever created on xbox and it wouldn't drive as much interest because frankly the people just aren't there. And no, games don't sell consoles these days. Console hardware and marketing sells consoles.

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@SolidGame_basic: its a dumb article...because it mentions xbox has had no big AAA exclusive games. Well, COD belongs to MS, so does diablo and all that jazz. You forget halo infinite, starfield, forza horizon, motorsport and so on. These are gigantic games, and cost more to make than all of the trash on sonys consoles. Not to mention the elephant in the room, the 800lb gorilla which is gamepass.

The problem has absolutely nothing to do with games, in fact its the exact opposite. There are so many games, xbox is flooded. The problem is the audience, and its just like Phil says...the people are not really on the xbox platform, they are more interested in the playstation platform and the switch platform. The people are elsewhere, because those consoles drove more interest and engagement, and have locked them down to a large extent. We could have the best game ever created on xbox and it wouldn't drive as much interest because frankly the people just aren't there. And no, games don't sell consoles these days. Console hardware and marketing sells consoles.

aka extreme eco chamber problem now.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@SolidGame_basic: its a dumb article...because it mentions xbox has had no big AAA exclusive games. Well, COD belongs to MS, so does diablo and all that jazz. You forget halo infinite, starfield, forza horizon, motorsport and so on. These are gigantic games, and cost more to make than all of the trash on sonys consoles. Not to mention the elephant in the room, the 800lb gorilla which is gamepass.

The problem has absolutely nothing to do with games, in fact its the exact opposite. There are so many games, xbox is flooded. The problem is the audience, and its just like Phil says...the people are not really on the xbox platform, they are more interested in the playstation platform and the switch platform. The people are elsewhere, because those consoles drove more interest and engagement, and have locked them down to a large extent. We could have the best game ever created on xbox and it wouldn't drive as much interest because frankly the people just aren't there. And no, games don't sell consoles these days. Console hardware and marketing sells consoles.

Spencer goes beyond that by talking about gen z and the lack of growth in the console market in general.

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#67 Gifford38
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@Antwan3K said:

Cows.. the #1 source for all things Xbox..

PS5 #1 SOURCE FOR XBOX GAME SALES LMAO.

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#68 Gifford38
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Has Xbox had a single serious GOTY-contender during his reign? Can’t think of one.

Forza horizon 5 was the closest. Hi-fi rush and psychonauts 2 also go high praise.

And yet I can play both of those games on ps5.

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#69 clone01
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maybe. I've played my Xbox X far more than my switch or PS5 this gen.

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#70 tjandmia
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Accept it or not, but the Xbox is already dead. It’s doing its final Dreamcast lap right now. I liked the S, but it wasn’t good enough.

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#71 sealionact
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@tjandmia: This coming a day after Sarah Bond announced game preservation expansion plans, and how work on the next gen console was well underway is somewhat bizarre.

There’s more chance of Sony deciding they can’t make enough money from exclusives and calling it a day….anybody from Sony talking about next gen yet?

Whoops.

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#72 tjandmia
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@sealionact: I can see you’re one of those who will have a hard time accepting it. Perfectly understandable. You’ll move on, eventually, just like everyone else. I’m sorry. It just didn’t work out for Microsoft.

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#73 Pedro
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@tjandmia said:

@sealionact: I can see you’re one of those who will have a hard time accepting it. Perfectly understandable. You’ll move on, eventually, just like everyone else. I’m sorry. It just didn’t work out for Microsoft.

It reads more like you are having a hard time accepting the truth.😏

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#74 sealionact
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@tjandmia: Of course I would. I moved on from 3do, ps1, PC, PS4, X360 and X1X. I’ll move on from XSX to whatever Xbox have planned next if it’s a good step up.

However, if whoever takes over from PS now than Lyin’ Ryan is gone goes to the media and talks about the many future plans as well as describing their next gen system as “the biggest technological leap ever”, I wouldn’t embarrass myself by proclaiming “Duh….PS is dead.”

That’s the difference.

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#75 FastNslowww
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Def should have been someone else....it's never too late.....

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#76 dark_drag765
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I disagree sincerely. I love my series x. Phil Spencer is not perfect but he was dealt a bad hand and saved the Xbox brand from collapse.