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#1  Edited By loudheadphones
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That's good for gaming industry that Xbox quits console business for good.

Just week and a half ago an article was published that XS is outsold by PS5 9:1 just in France. Worse than it was during PS4/Xbone gen.

https://ludostrie.com/microsoft-et-la-quete-du-leadership/

The year 2023 is particularly catastrophic for Microsoft in terms of console sales. We previously mentioned the ratio of 80% / 20% for PlayStation and Xbox sales in Europe. But it gets worse: in 2023, in France, we are getting closer to a 90% / 10% ratio. That the Xbox Series shows a severe drop in its European sales in September 2023 compared to September 2022, despite improved supplies, the release of Starfield, and while PS5 sales explode, says a lot about the situation.

Now UK 2 days ago :

PS5 Market share in the UK from the last 6 months.

Leaked numbers from Jeuxvideo.com forum for almost whole Europe

January - September 2023 Hardware sales:

France:

[PS5] 750k

[NSW] 480k

[XBS] 103k

Europe (excluding UK and Germany):

[PS5] 2.45M

[NSW] 1.55M

[XBS] 0.35M

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If I’m being 100% totally honest, I couldn’t care less what France does. That country is in an absolute disastrous downfall. It’s a train wreck of epic proportions over there.

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Let them eat cake.

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#4 Pedro  Online
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"Xbox is a going to be a monopoly with ABK" and "Xbox totally collapsed in Europe"

You Sony fannies are all over the place. The one thing that is consistent is that Xbox continues to live rent free in your mind. 🤭

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Oh no!

Anyway.

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#6 hardwenzen
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Zero exclusives

Everything runs and looks significantly better on pc

The 25 years in the making video game is a 7/10

Flagship title completely abandoned

Owns 342345 studios, but have trouble releasing anything, and when they do, its a 5-7/10 game


Its not looking pretty, but this has been their issue the whole last generation, its nothing new.

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@Pedro: they’re getting their licks in now cause once ABK games flood Game Pass they’ll be real quiet

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@nnoyinghusband said:

If I’m being 100% totally honest, I couldn’t care less what France does. That country is in an absolute disastrous downfall. It’s a train wreck of epic proportions over there.

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Xbox performance is generally embarrassing all around. Wonder what keeps them going in this industry. Saner companies don't pump billions upon billions into dying ventures. Microsoft's nearly cult-like behavior makes it seem... personal to push on with this. Anyway, it's an interesting train wreck

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Microsoft also heavily increased the price of Series S in Brazil.

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@hardwenzen said:

Zero exclusives

Everything runs and looks significantly better on pc

The 25 years in the making video game is a 7/10

Flagship title completely abandoned

Owns 342345 studios, but have trouble releasing anything, and when they do, its a 5-7/10 game

Its not looking pretty, but this has been their issue the whole last generation, its nothing new.

1) Xbox hasn't had exclusives for years, is this news to you? also Sony starting to bring all their titles to PC too, but yeah timed exclusives beats multiplatform I guess.

2) Playstation games also run and look better on PC.

3) Starfield is Bethesda's baby, MS had nothing to do with it.

3) Halo? Um they just released more content for it like last week, someone like yourself who's obsessed with Halo should know that, oh you do, you're just being disingenuous as usual.

4) There was 7 or 8 games released this year, 5 were highly rated, whereas Sony released 2 and one of those was on Xbox, Also what's the next Sony first party release?

You should worry about your own backyard wenzen.

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#12 Saint-George
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Xbox has more customers..

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@nnoyinghusband said:

If I’m being 100% totally honest, I couldn’t care less what France does. That country is in an absolute disastrous downfall. It’s a train wreck of epic proportions over there.

France is the 3rd biggest gaming market in Europe ( behind UK and Germany) and 6th or 7th globally.

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I would get an Xbox if there was atleast two great games to play but there isn't

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#15  Edited By Litchie
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@loudheadphones said:

That's good for gaming industry that Xbox quits console business for good.

Yeah. What would be even better for the industry is if everything but Sony quit the business. That would be the best.

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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:

Zero exclusives

Everything runs and looks significantly better on pc

The 25 years in the making video game is a 7/10

Flagship title completely abandoned

Owns 342345 studios, but have trouble releasing anything, and when they do, its a 5-7/10 game

Its not looking pretty, but this has been their issue the whole last generation, its nothing new.

1) Xbox hasn't had exclusives for years, is this news to you? also Sony starting to bring all their titles to PC too, but yeah timed exclusives beats multiplatform I guess.

2) Playstation games also run and look better on PC.

3) Starfield is Bethesda's baby, MS had nothing to do with it.

3) Halo? Um they just released more content for it like last week, someone like yourself who's obsessed with Halo should know that, oh you do, you're just being disingenuous as usual.

4) There was 7 or 8 games released this year, 5 were highly rated, whereas Sony released 2 and one of those was on Xbox, Also what's the next Sony first party release?

You should worry about your own backyard wenzen.

Don't bother, he's trolling, and mixing his own weird parameters with reality.

In 2021, MS Studios released more highly rated games than PS did in 2022. Three 9s and a 10 vs to 8s and a 9. PS just released another 8. The cows have an inflated opinion about how good their games are. While I admit they look good, they aren't better than anyone else.

And both Halo Infinite SIngle player and now Season 5 with multiplayer are good games.

And to put this logic of his to explain the lack of sales with Xbox would mean that he could explain the high sales of Playstation and it's not that easy. Since it's launch the PS5 has had unexplained popularity and the games released since don't really explain it imo.

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And PlayStation still has no games 😖 While Xbox is bursting at the seams with new AAA first party developed exclusives 😎

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#18 TheEroica  Moderator
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People who want companies to quit the gaming industry have no idea what they're saying.... Some people would gut this hobby faster than you can "fanboy" to serve their own depraved bias.... I don't really consider them true gamers.

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#19 blaznwiipspman1
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xbox sales are meaningless to MS. Its only one side of the story. The more important side is how many gamepass subs, their MAU numbers, revenue. Console is small potatoes compared to mobile, and subscription. You keep talking trash about xbox, but the xbox revenue is higher than ever soo..

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#20 pmanden
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Well, as someone said in another thread on SW: PlayStation is selling on brand value alone. That's gotta be the explanation cos PlayStation hasn't done anything remarkable for a very long time.

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#21 hardwenzen
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This wouldn't have happened if Starfield wasn't a oneNdone game.

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@TheEroica said:

People who want companies to quit the gaming industry have no idea what they're saying.... Some people would gut this hobby faster than you can "fanboy" to serve their own depraved bias.... I don't really consider them true gamers.

It happens when being a fanboy has become their identity. We know one faction that has an unusually higher percentage of those folks. Thus the reason this thread exists.🙃

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#23  Edited By tjandmia
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Xbox has been struggling for 20 years. Every gen I've owned an Xbox, and every gen I've missed out on the best games, being stuck Halo, Forza, and Gears, and nothing has changed. Starfield is an average game, at best. The switch to the PS5 was a huge eye opener of what I had been missing. PSPlus premium is better than Gamepass with better exclusives and a good deal less expensive. Microsoft made a huge mistake last gen concentrating on multiplayer games. There's really no denying it - people aren't buying Xboxes because it offers the worst content, plain and simple. Maybe things will be different if the Xbox is still around next gen if it can manage to pump out some good first party content, but this gen is another where MS is in third place. It's already lost. There's no point in owning an Xbox right now.

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#24 Silentchief
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It's almost like people are figuring out Xbox is completely irrelevant and you can just build a PC. Playstation would be wise to take notes.

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@TheEroica said:

People who want companies to quit the gaming industry have no idea what they're saying.... Some people would gut this hobby faster than you can "fanboy" to serve their own depraved bias.... I don't really consider them true gamers.

They aren't.

Competition is healthy. And drives innovation.

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Wow a console that Lemming said has "no games" is outselling a console that lemmings said " has thousands of games" and still struggling to outsell the all mighty PS5. Shocking.

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@tjandmia said:

Xbox has been struggling for 20 years. Every gen I've owned an Xbox, and every gen I've missed out on the best games, being stuck Halo, Forza, and Gears, and nothing has changed. Starfield is an average game, at best. The switch to the PS5 was a huge eye opener of what I had been missing. PSPlus premium is better than Gamepass with better exclusives and a good deal less expensive. Microsoft made a huge mistake last gen concentrating on multiplayer games. There's really no denying it - people aren't buying Xboxes because it offers the worst content, plain and simple. Maybe things will be different if the Xbox is still around next gen if it can manage to pump out some good first party content, but this gen is another where MS is in third place. It's already lost. There's no point in owning an Xbox right now.

^must be opposite day 🤣

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@loudheadphones: I’m not talking about gaming. I’m talking about the downfall of the entire country. Much bigger issues than gaming going on there.

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@tjandmia: I’m the exact opposite. I’ve owned every Xbox and PS but always put my focus on PS. Now I’m buckling down and putting more of a focus on Xbox and realizing that I missed out on a ton of great Xbox games. Reality is, both have great exclusives and being stuck on one system will give you a shock when you try the games from the other you missed out on.

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@kvallyx: Xbox gamers are eating a buffet in harmony while PS gamers everywhere (check Twitter, FB groups, YT comments) are complaining about the PS+ price increase, discussing which tier they downgraded to, or how they canceled altogether.

And you wanna know what I truly, whole heartedly couldn’t believe? I’m seeing a lot of “one week until PS Portal launches, are you guys getting it?” posts all over PS FB groups, and almost every single comment, like 99% of the comments, are negative. Cows are trashing it. “You can already do this on your phone, tablet, PC. It’s a waste of money. It’s a cash grab. It’s gonna flop.” Over and over and over. Not looking good for the Portal getting these types of comments from their target audience.

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#31  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@tjandmia: bla bla bla tldr 🤡

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No way to positively spin this (though some try, just look near the top of this thread). MS hasn't just had their ass handed to them; they've had it stomped on, obliterated, then handed back to them.

Business as usual for Sony.

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@nnoyinghusband: You’ve missed a ton of great Xbox games??? There aren’t even a ton of great Xbox games to miss. 😂

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@tjandmia: just these last few months I beat all the Gears games except Tactics, 100 hours in Starfield, As Dusk Falls, Perfect Dark games, Redfall, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Hi Fi Rush. Working on Forza Horizon 5 now. Beat all the Halo games a few years ago. Most of these games I like. Halo Infinite online is better than most of the online shooters IMO.

I’ve played some great PS exclusives too, and some very meh ones. I’m not really a fan of the Horizon games, they’re ok. Death Stranding was alright, nothing great. TLOU2 was terrible. Gran Turismo takes a backseat always to Forza. Returnal was bad. Spiderman 1 was awesome. Miles Morales was meh, too much agenda shoved in it for a superhero game. Rachet & Clank is good. But Days Gone, God of War, TLOU1, Uncharted…love those.

MS has a lot of winners no matter what the haters say.

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No need for concern Xbox fans, MSs attitude is good:

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How is this possible? This year is the greatest games lineup in Xbox history.

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#37  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@nnoyinghusband said:

@tjandmia: just these last few months I beat all the Gears games except Tactics, 100 hours in Starfield, As Dusk Falls, Perfect Dark games, Redfall, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Hi Fi Rush. Working on Forza Horizon 5 now. Beat all the Halo games a few years ago. Most of these games I like. Halo Infinite online is better than most of the online shooters IMO.

I’ve played some great PS exclusives too, and some very meh ones. I’m not really a fan of the Horizon games, they’re ok. Death Stranding was alright, nothing great. TLOU2 was terrible. Gran Turismo takes a backseat always to Forza. Returnal was bad. Spiderman 1 was awesome. Miles Morales was meh, too much agenda shoved in it for a superhero game. Rachet & Clank is good. But Days Gone, God of War, TLOU1, Uncharted…love those.

MS has a lot of winners no matter what the haters say.

Didn't like Uncharted 1. I thought the gunplay was fairly horrific. I want another go at TLOU 1, but that cinematic walking at the beginning. :-O It wouldn't end. I can't do the whole movie game thing. I struggled with Quantum Break and Senuas Sacrifice too.

For so long I've been thrown near enough straight into gameplay, that my mind isn't in the right place for this kind of thing.

Slowing me down at the beginning is a mistake, because I'll just stop for a really long time. Happened with TLoZ: TP too. The beginning bit where you're stuck in the village is pretty painful.

I remember also being frustrated at the unskippable cut-scenes of Uncharted.

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What's a Europe and U.K.? lol :P

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@nod_calypse said:

No way to positively spin this (though some try, just look near the top of this thread). MS hasn't just had their ass handed to them; they've had it stomped on, obliterated, then handed back to them.

Business as usual for Sony.

So you are upset that Xbox has had record revenue, record profits, record number of first party games, record number of first party studios, record number of devices in the Xbox ecosystem, and record number of active users?

Please, tell us more.

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@kvallyx said:
@nod_calypse said:

No way to positively spin this (though some try, just look near the top of this thread). MS hasn't just had their ass handed to them; they've had it stomped on, obliterated, then handed back to them.

Business as usual for Sony.

So you are upset that Xbox has had record revenue, record profits, record number of first party games, record number of first party studios, record number of devices in the Xbox ecosystem, and record number of active users?

Please, tell us more.

If anything, I'm more bothered by the fact that Sony has to do absolutely nothing to win. The game lineup is absurd. They have literally almost nothing coming out, and haven't had anything much of interest for a while, and yet, they still dominate. Again and again. It's ridiculous.

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@nnoyinghusband said:

@loudheadphones: I’m not talking about gaming. I’m talking about the downfall of the entire country. Much bigger issues than gaming going on there.

What does the political situation in France has anything to do with the Xbox Series or even gaming?

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@onesiphorus: my earlier statement, I couldn’t care less what console sells best in France, the country is a disaster in every other way. Essentially it’s opinion on console sales don’t matter to me.

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#43 KvallyX
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@nod_calypse said:

Sony has to do absolutely nothing to win.

Win what?

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@kvallyx said:
@nod_calypse said:

Sony has to do absolutely nothing to win.

Win what?

Console sales? They're constantly smashing MS.

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@nod_calypse said:
@kvallyx said:
@nod_calypse said:

Sony has to do absolutely nothing to win.

Win what?

Console sales? They're constantly smashing MS.

But that doesn't impact me. MS smashes Sony in gaming devices. And that doesn't impact me any. What DOES impact me, are the games that MS produces for us gamers.

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It would be one thing if Sony were doing stuff to deserve the sales. The game outlook isn't looking good right now on the 2024 PS5 front. The PS5 has very little reason to own it at the moment, but it still sells like crazy because it is Playstation.

On top of that, Sony has raised the console pricing, game pricing, subscription pricing, all while releasing less and less 1st party games on their console and shifting to GAAS over what has worked for them in the past.

I enjoy a few games on my PS5, but almost all of them are playable on other platforms.

Good for Sony though, they don't even need to try and they just sell like crazy. It is every company's dream.

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Poo cows but eh, they love it, I guess. lol :P

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#48 Heil68
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@Archangel3371 said:

Oh no!

Anyway.

I'm shook, might have to go home from work today tbo.

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@kvallyx said:
@nod_calypse said:
@kvallyx said:
@nod_calypse said:

Sony has to do absolutely nothing to win.

Win what?

Console sales? They're constantly smashing MS.

But that doesn't impact me. MS smashes Sony in gaming devices. And that doesn't impact me any. What DOES impact me, are the games that MS produces for us gamers.

Well, duh. Doesn't impact me either. Either way, don't care about console sales. But that doesn't change the fact Sony is demolishing MS in this department.

Now if Sony could just make some games that I actually care about...

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#50 Saint-George
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@nod_calypse said:
@kvallyx said:
@nod_calypse said:

Sony has to do absolutely nothing to win.

Win what?

Console sales? They're constantly smashing MS.

this is the saddest form of retort..f%€king console sales 🤣😂

My plastic has sold more than your plastic