@LJS9502_basic said:
Oh stop with that crap. You don't have the freedom to endanger other people.
I don't endanger other people, if you want to protect yourself from the flu you are free to do it with your own means, NOT with the government telling us what to do, we are not toddlers.
@drunk_pi said:
If you look past at all oppressive governments, you notice that they share common traits: Discrimination against minority groups; lack of protection of human rights; and high rates of economic inequality. Lack of governance is when there is no established or legitimate government, hence Somalia is an example of a place where there is a lack of governance or no real legitimate authority.
If big government is an issue when there is universal access to healthcare, a welfare system, and free education, why are European states just as free, if not freer, than the United States? It seems they're doing a better job at having freedom and having a generous welfare system, while we can't do either one correctly.
But please, when you're having a medical emergency, don't rely on fire & rescue because those guys are government employees. And please don't use those government roads. ;)
First of all I said I am in favor of small government, NOT anarchy or the complete absence of government. (so the comments about Somalia, fire & rescue and roads make no sense)
Government have absolutely no right to steal my income, to heavily regulate how I conduct business, to interfere with my healthcare and education, to limit my free speech, to tell me if it is ok to go outside etc.
What you said are not common traits of oppressive governments, sure "Discrimination against minority groups" is a bad thing, and also "human rights" is subjective to the beliefs of the government. But high rates of economic inequality is great thing, because people are different from one to another, we have different interests, goals, priorities, will and capabilities as a result a completely different economic outcome. Socialism try to bump everyone down to the lowest common denominator to make everyone equal and that is why I vote against that.
Europe have ample amount of regulations and huge income taxes 50-80% in some countries that offer all this crap (universal access to healthcare, a welfare system, and free education) that in my book is not freedom, and the funny thing is that socialists in europe are still not happy with the amount of socialism that is going on, socialists will never stop until they achieve total communism.
@zaryia said:
Oh wow, these are the kind of people who vote Republican?
yes, the kind of people who value freedom.
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