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#1 MrGeezer
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@tryit said:

....but a sports figure would?

...well I'd surely hope not. But if they did, then that's their own dumb-ass fault if people get pissed over it.

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#2 MrGeezer
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@tryit said:

your over complicating it.

If a kid with zero political knowledge got on TV and complained about Jews or whatever do you really want to snowflake out over it? what protest? make a website in fury complaining about the injustices of 5 year olds and their view of jews?

what the actual f?

Well, a kid with zero political knowledge wouldn't be on TV complaining about Jewish people. And if he did do that on TV, no one would invite him to be on TV again. No one would feel like "snowflaking out over it" because he'd disappear from the public eye.

That's not really the case with celebrities. Celebrities actually get a platform based on their celebrity. If I start a Twitter account, I might have about a dozen people looking at it, tops. While someone like Lebron James can start up a Twitter account and have a couple MILLION people looking at it simply because his name is Lebron James. Point being: it might be stupid to care what a celebrity says about a given topic, but it's equally stupid to care about what MOST PEOPLE say about a given topic. The only difference between a celebrity and a random joe is the numbers. And for celebrities, they've got to take the bad with the good. Yeah, it might suck that some people are "snowflaking" over a dumb but insignificant comment, but 99% of the time those same celebrities are benefiting from that kind of exposure and I don't hear anyone complaining about that. Should people care what they say? Maybe not. But I have a hard time feeling bad for them when they make a gaffe and suffer for it. When you've got MILLIONS of people watching you, you sort of have to be a little bit more careful to watch what you say.

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#3 MrGeezer
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@tryit said:

the context of a persons experience in a subject matter actually matters.

if the person dosent know anything about what they are talking about, has zero power over said subject then what the f?

and in this specific case no legislation or any form of kentic energy is suggested based on his opinion so its harmless

Sure, but by that same logic the people who care about his opinion don't have any power over him. They're not in a position to fire him or discipline him or otherwise hurt him financially. They're just people spouting their possibly dumb-ass opinions online, just the same as Lebron is doing. So why care that they care? That's harmless too.

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@Baconstrip78 said:

@MrGeezer: That sounds like admission? Yeah don’t ever serve on a jury...

I'm not on the freaking jury, that's the entire damn point. I can absolutely damn well take it as an admission of guilt because it doesn't matter whether or not I think he's guilty.

You're selling your argument to the wrong crowd. You want to be fair to the guy, then go tell this to the guys on the jury and not to some random people on the internet whose opinion on the matter isn't even relevant.

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#5 MrGeezer
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@Baconstrip78 said:

@Mercenary848: "If I did behave as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior," Spacey said.

That’s admission? You’re kind of what I’m talking about. Maybe he remembers it and he’s being disingenuous, or maybe he was trying to defuse an allegation without calling the guy a liar. But you take something that is 100% not in the realm of admission of guilt in court and turn it into a guilty plea.

Again...I’ll wait for the trial to convict him.

Sounds like an admission to me. If someone ever accused me of something like that, it would be "hell no, I didn't do it", not "I don't think so, but if I did then I must have been drunk."

And you know what? I can take it as an admission of guilt because I'm not involved in the trial. You're right that such a statement shouldn't be used against him in court. But when it comes to me just plain thinking the guy's a piece of crap, there is a MUCH lower burden of proof. I can't throw the man in prison, pretty much all I can do is not watch his movies anymore. And I don't even need a reason to do that, let alone definitive 100% proof that he's a sex offender.

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#6  Edited By MrGeezer
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You can forgive whoever you want, and I can do the same. Just because you or I forgive someone or don't forgive someone doesn't mean that anyone else is obligated to feel the same way.

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@Mercenary848 said:

I study a lot of social media following(im starting my own channel to promote my art) ad we are now in an age where individuals can support themselves strictlyby having a die hard fan base. I think he only dropped this video to mobilize his cultish fan base.....they love it; but anyone with a brain...no.

Well, he's an A-list celebrity who now doesn't have a career. I have a hard time believing that whatever money he manages to get from his die hard fan base will come remotely close to what he was earning by acting. Even if he gets some "support" from his fans, I'm sure it's probably essentially nothing compared to what he was getting.

It's one thing if he's like, "well, I've got nothing else to lose so I might as well go full nut." In that case, sure. Why not? But if he's trying to rely on this stuff to "support himself", then that's probably pretty pointless. I'm sure he's got enough money that he probably never has to work another day in his life, he'd might as well just shut up and retire from the spotlight.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

This is sort of how I feel. Any time I see someone championing their right to "defend their property" with lethal force, I want to exert lethal force on that person haha. No not really, but seriously, you're going to shoot someone over your Blu-ray collection? Cave their head in over your new air-fryer? Give me a break, even their shitty life is worth more than that.

Call the cops, let the police handle it.

You never know if the person is packing heat or carrying a blade, too; you go to confront them and suddenly you're dead.

I've unfortunately had to talk people out of doing stupid stuff like that. Stuff like people getting robbed and being almost positive who did it. And then saying that they're gonna go f*** the guy up. And I'm like, Jesus...this is a person with a freaking wife and kids. And they're going to risk getting killed or imprisoned trying to f*** someone up. Like, they're going to leave their freaking wife and kids alone all because they're pissed off about losing some property? Grow the f*** up.

Of course, it's a different matter when it comes to actual DEFENSE. As in, you're home and someone is trying to break in. In that case, by all means shoot them in the face. But going at someone for taking your stuff? Screw that. Even if their shitty lives aren't worth more than your Blu-Ray collection, the courts are sure as hell gonna think that their shitty lives are worth more than your Blu-Ray collection.

I wonder how many people imprisoned in jail for years reconnected with their kids and said, "yeah, I wasn't there for your childhood, but that asshole stole my stuff. What was I supposed to do? Be there for you when you needed me, or f*** a guy up?"

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#9 MrGeezer
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@sexay_vixen: *shrugs*

Prison (and cemeteries) are full of people who fancied themselves badasses. Take that for what you will, and I'll leave it at that. Feel free to tell me all about how if someone robs you at knife-point you'll disarm him and send him to the hospital. Doesn't change the fact that going all vigilante on people is f***ing stupid. But hey, you do what you want to do.

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@sexay_vixen said:

Isn’t it better to catch them, forget the cops, and retain the right to fck with them?

Not really.

I'd like to point out that a good number of "people murdered in their homes" stories amounted to criminals trying to AVOID a confrontation. Except then their luck ran out because there was actually someone home, and those people flipped out. So the thieves flipped out in "defense" and people end up dead over a petty insignificant amount of property.

I see some people joking, but I have to be really serious for a moment. No, your property is NOT worth more than your life, and it's NOT worth ruining your life by f***ing someone up whom you've caught messing with your stuff. I strongly advise people to stay away from vigilante-type s***. That's the kind of thing that can easily lead to people being killed or serving prison sentences all for nothing.