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#1 Pariahdox
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Pariahdox"]Most of those illigals arn't as lucky as you and your mom to have the option to come here legally.

Bloodseeker23

So we should welcome those starting out in the country as criminals? I don't think so. Do it legally....or don't do it.

Yep. Im very proud of USA, I love this country, been here for almost 4 years now. And my life back there in my could country isn't so much better than Mexico. Philippines is a very corrupt country, I think it's in the top in all Asia, not sure though. Anyways, you really think its fair *for us legal people* when illegal immigrants just hop the border? C'mon man.

You are not from a philliapino slum. Most illigal Mexicans are from Mexican slums. Theres a big difference between them and you and its not just a piece of paper. You choice to seek more oppurtunity. They chose survival.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] So all those other people have to suffer, but the Mexicans should be special just because they happen to live next to the US? If you want to make an argument about how stupid you think illegal immigration is, that's fine; that doesn't mean that it's not illegal.jalexbrown

Im not arguing with you whether its legal or not. Im arguing whether its right or not. its not right, and you seem to think the laws are so almighty considering the fact you are in fact a criminal yourself.

Okay, i admit...you're right...I should have a speeding ticket, probably. Maybe I should go turn myself in now. Other than that, I've not done anything illegal in over a year, and that was...well, I can't right say, but I should have gotten in trouble.

Your not an illigal immigrant, your an American that engages in criminal activity, by your logic it would be morally right to deport you and your family.

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[QUOTE="Bloodseeker23"]Just to add more fuel to the fire, I really hate Illegal Immigrants. I came here in US with documents and all that, and my Mom told me that the process for that takes a lot of YEARS. But some people.....just hop the border, voila`? LJS9502_basic

Most of those illigals arn't as lucky as you and your mom to have the option to come here legally.

So we should welcome those starting out in the country as criminals? I don't think so. Do it legally....or don't do it.

A criminal is someone who is actively enganged in criminal activity over time. Most illigal immigrants are not criminals.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] So all those other people have to suffer, but the Mexicans should be special just because they happen to live next to the US? If you want to make an argument about how stupid you think illegal immigration is, that's fine; that doesn't mean that it's not illegal.LJS9502_basic

Im not arguing with you whether its legal or not. Im arguing whether its right or not. its not right, and you seem to think the laws are so almighty considering the fact you are in fact a criminal yourself.

When dealing with a society one has to follow what that society wants.

Only weak mindless sheep blindly follow the master. If my people had always followed what society wanted I would still have to sit in the back of the bus.

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Just to add more fuel to the fire, I really hate Illegal Immigrants. I came here in US with documents and all that, and my Mom told me that the process for that takes a lot of YEARS. But some people.....just hop the border, voila`? Bloodseeker23
Most of those illigals arn't as lucky as you and your mom to have the option to come here legally.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] But people in other countries are sticking it out. Think about how overpopulated the States would be if we let everyone that has it worse off than us run to us for a better life.jalexbrown

There not sticking it out, they don't have a choice but to suffer, poor mexicans have a choice wether they want to suffer or not, only one choice and its illigal (to cross an imaginary line, and enter a territory they lived in before we even knew about) but they have an option. People in Africa don't have the ability to illigally immigrate here like mexicans can.

So all those other people have to suffer, but the Mexicans should be special just because they happen to live next to the US? If you want to make an argument about how stupid you think illegal immigration is, that's fine; that doesn't mean that it's not illegal.

Im not arguing with you whether its legal or not. Im arguing whether its right or not. its not right, and you seem to think the laws are so almighty considering the fact you are in fact a criminal yourself.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] You not liking the laws don't make them any less of laws, so it's still illegal.

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Your bringing morals into the equation, saying its morally wrong. It's not. I think the way the laws are set up are morally wrong, and if a law is wrong and I beleive that Jesus wouldn't support it I will break it gladly and with enthusiasm. Also if you are saying you have never broken a law, you are a liar.

Yeah, I've broken certain laws, and if I'd gotten caught, I would have taken the punishment without gripes. There are a lot of laws that I think are stupid, but that's life.

Than whats your beef with people that break laws to escape being trapped in hell on earth? Hell youve broken laws for no personal gain. These people are doing it to protect there children, so whats your beef with them, and how can you judge them? Really the question is why are you acting so holy and what makes you think you have the right to judge them?

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"] The way people talk, you'd think Mexico has it worse than any other country in the world.jalexbrown
No, just worse than the US. Which is why they came here.

But people in other countries are sticking it out. Think about how overpopulated the States would be if we let everyone that has it worse off than us run to us for a better life.

There not sticking it out, they don't have a choice but to suffer, poor mexicans have a choice wether they want to suffer or not, only one choice and its illigal (to cross an imaginary line, and enter a territory they lived in before we even knew about) but they have an option. People in Africa don't have the ability to illigally immigrate here like mexicans can.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] See, that would be playing the race card. These people are committing crimes, and you're trying to claim that we're racists if we don't like it.jalexbrown

They are crossing an imaginary line to better themselves. Moving to a country that they have occupied for thousands of years before these stupid laws existed.
I don't care what a stupid law says, in my eyes they are not breaking the laws.
50 years ago I would be breaking the law if I married a white women, and 100 years ago it would be illigal for me to kiss one, so I guess by your logic you feel its wrong for me to have a white GF.

You not liking the laws don't make them any less of laws, so it's still illegal.

Your bringing morals into the equation, saying its morally wrong. It's not. I think the way the laws are set up are morally wrong, and if a law is wrong and I beleive that Jesus wouldn't support it I will break it gladly and with enthusiasm. Also if you are saying you have never broken a law, you are a liar.