@charizard1605: send you PM

Hmm i need permission to join in to the chat :p

Having problems with my seatm account, so i might be little later :p

@charizard1605: Hmmm gonna check hat out then :)

@FoxbatAlpha: what? :p

Sorry if this wa mentioned, but i didn't been here for quite some time. There any E3 IRC this year? :p

Guess what gamers plays majority of there games in living room..... console gamers. In order to dominale living room then need to dominate console gamers. In order to dominate console gamers they need to throw away Playstation and Xbox that dominates there minds out of there heads and so far there 0 efford to do so. As long as xbox and playstation is in there hand as long they wont see steam machines, for them it's just yet another branded console PC, which is nothing new and fails every time (ironically lot od Steam Machines that Gaben shown on that even are already existing products with steam logo on it).

I think you are not blind to see hope console marketing looks like, what makes hype for console, what makes console market and so far i don't see efford from Valve to meet a challenge effords of big trio in this market. As long they won't able to do that as long they won't get a spot light. Casuals won't save them..... they already got there media players and there tablet games integrated in TV, they don't need another box... if they want better games they will buy PS4 or Xbox One as you can see them everywhere + they get some exclusive games that you won't be able to play on PC.

Again, if they want to compete with consoles fo space in living room, they need to compete like it is console, other wise as some guy on Verge said, it's all looks effortless and won't have any effect compared to competition.... it didn't have any effect as again, console PCs is nothing new.

But hey i aggre this is CES and it not much of the battlefield (but compation did need any event to build up hype... even Ouya, speaking of which this thing made more hype then Steam Machines did so far), but on E3 in mecca of console gaming where PC gaming is practically invisible (and by that i mean is there but no body notice it), if they won't show up with the bigs guns there, Hermits can forget of doom of consoles or else console market will destroy itself.

As a extra chekc comment section of this video and see what gamers things about Steam Machine right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7uMjQpwEj8

Well Gabe is now on intel :p

http://newsroom.intel.com/docs/DOC-4620#livestream

@SEANMCAD: As i understand those devices suppose to steal some console gamers to PC market, some even think it suppose to destroy consoles all together (The Tek :p), as PC gamers don't like the idea as they are addicted to overclocked toasters, so i don't think there any other motivation.

So then ask console gamer if he considers Steam Machine.... if he even knows about it :p

If they be idle in E3, Sony and MS will over dominate them in press... over dominate it in System Wars

You know that E3 conferences are day before E3 starts, and no body call those events a "pre-game teaser conferences". Look on other conferences that been today, they are full blown with annoucments,

Nvidia did one yestoday and all they talked about gaming and graphics, streamed and everyone to watch, 2 days before CES started....

Again, if Valve want to compite with Sony and MS and even Nintendo,they need hype then need events when everyone can see and build up hype. So far they have yet another branded PC console approach which won't get any console gamers.

But ok thats just CES, i hope they do better on E3.... they need to be loud on E3 or else it will be game over