Tell me why I am wrong. Any dipstick with a computer can post some stupid crap like this. Think for yourself, if you can.

I can't believe Putin hasn't leveled that place yet.

Yep. You are the ones who create conditions that allow these monsters to fester in our society until they decide to act out on their evil intentions. If we say anything bad about Islam liberals call us bigots or islamophobes. We want to close our borders you call us bigots and xenophobes. Your little PC "utopia" you have created is destroying the western world. Yes, liberals are the enemy as far as I am concerned. You have done more damage to the U.S. and the western world than any Islamic extremist could do ....short of a nuke.

Yep. You are the ones who create conditions that allow these monsters to fester in our society until they decide to act out on their evil intentions. If we say anything bad about Islam liberals call us bigots or islamophobes. We want to close our borders you call us bigots and xenophobes. Your little PC "utopia" you have created is destroying the western world. Yes, liberals are the enemy as far as I am concerned. You have done more damage to the U.S. and the western world than any Islamic extremist could do ....short of a nuke.

First I would argue we did not do "badly" combat wise. Those countries did not turn out as well as we hoped, but it was not because of our military. Again, comparing apples to oranges. You simply cannot compare those theaters to a conventional one such as Russia vs. U.S. Completely different type of warfare.

Now if you want to compare apples to apples the United States fought two conflicts in two different countries at the same time and for longer than the Soviets did in their 1979 invasion.....yet they lost more than double the troops in their one conflict than we did in two of ours.

And we do not "provoke" North Korea by doing that, what an absurd comment. Educate yourself on history of the Korean Peninsula please.

But no, the U.S. will not start a war with Russia, not in our interest or theirs.

@GazaAli: Fair enough.

I can't speak to current Russian tactics, doctrine, and AI radars, but let's just say they have gotten much better. Yea, half of the Iraqi Air Force fled to Iran lol. Was no contest. Their integrated air defense system however took out dozens of coalition aircraft.

There is plenty of data....you just can't see it ;) Right now I would say the only matchup where Russia comes close to besting the F-15C is the Su-35. The MiG-29 is a joke of an aircraft, Su-27 is certainly capable, but I would say the Su-30's much more so.

A lot goes into matching up air-to-air engagements, there are tons of variables. The AI radar, the turn rate/ratio, BVR capability (most important), self-protection jammers, the pilot of course, helmet mounted systems and hotas capability. In most cases the F-15C will kill you with an AIM-120 well before you can even see it on your radar. Good luck.

@GazaAli You are obviously an intelligent person, but this is not a graduate paper. Big words do not make you right. Just saying....

In just about every conversation like this you have to jump in and be on whatever side is against the U.S., so yes I see you as a hater. You are like China and Russia on the UN Security Council lol, no matter what the topic on the U.S. you will be on the opposing side.

You are stretching yourself thin on this one, and saying your opinion is more credible than the next guy because you have experienced asymetric warfare is silly. As military intelligence veteran I can assure you throwing rocks at tanks hardly gives you insight when it comes to conventional warfare. You are correct in that numbers are not everything; Israel proved that in the 6 day war when countered arab aggression.

But I digress, you keep on comparing apples to oranges bringing up Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc. If you think a war with Russia would resemble any one of those you are not as smart as you sound. Pound for pound, the U.S. military is superior to the Russian military, period. The training, the equipment, the experience, airlift capability, power projection....all things. Well, we can't drink Vodka on duty so they got us there.

I understand your point in the U.S. does not have the stomach for such a war, but I say that depends on the circumstances. Are Americans willing to go to war with Russia over Syria? Hell no. What if Russia invaded the U.S.? I'll tell you what, you have never seen guts until you back Americans up against a wall. Do not underestimate our will or capability to fight an equal or greater enemy.

You can call it a circle jerk if you want....keep hatin if you want....but sometimes we really are just better. Live with it.

Ahhh, GazaAli, hating on America as usual.

There is no "perceived" superiority of American military power, it is real, I assure you. Funny you pick on us for our conflicts not going as well as we would have liked, yet you did not mention the Soviets failed outright with their campaign in Afghanistan....in their prime. You obviously know nothing about our military because we still train for conventional war. What do you think the other million+ personnel are doing while a few are overseas fighting? Do you think our naval fleets and 5th gen aircraft are training to fight insurgents day to day? Do you think our fighter pilots do not train to fight against fighters the Russians and Chinese employ?

We have not forgotten how "real wars" work, I assure you. This is first hand knowledge, but keep believing what you want. I rather be underestimated.

The F-15E is primarily air to ground, you are thinking F-15C.