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#1801 Planeforger
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Oh, and there's a new civil suit in the mix: Trump and the co-founders of Truth Social are all suing each other for control of the company, while the company value circles the drain.

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#1802 LJS9502_basic
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@Planeforger said:

Back on topic: John Eastman, Trump's former lawyer and co-conspirator on the fake elector scheme, has just been disbarred in California for his efforts to help Trump overthrow the 2020 election.

It's ridiculous that they aren't all in prison yet, but eh, it's something.

A country that refuses to hold traitors accountable is destined to lose itself.

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Exclusive: Trump Media saved in 2022 by Russian-American under criminal investigation

Donald Trump’s social media company Trump Media managed to go public last week only after it had been kept afloat in 2022 by emergency loans provided in part by a Russian-American businessman under scrutiny in a federal insider-trading and money-laundering investigation.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/03/trump-media-es-family-trust-2022-loans?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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#1804  Edited By Planeforger
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Turns out Trump is still struggling to pay the (heavily reduced) $175 million bond, even after he posted the bond on Monday.

The company that underwrote the bond has so far failed to demonstrate that it is capable of paying the bond or that it is financially sound. If they can't,Trump might have to start shopping for a new moneylender or risk losing his properties.

It's fun how a former president can't find a single legitimate company in the entire country to support him financially, but I guess if you spend your life ripping people off, it eventually comes back to bite you.

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@Planeforger said:

Turns out Trump is still struggling to pay the (heavily reduced) $175 million bond, even after he posted the bond on Monday.

The company that underwrote the bond has so far failed to demonstrate that it is capable of paying the bond or that it is financially sound. If they can't,Trump might have to start shopping for a new moneylender or risk losing his properties.

It's fun how a former president can't find a single legitimate company in the entire country to support him financially, but I guess if you spend your life ripping people off, it eventually comes back to bite you.

So he gets another 10 days, right?

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Looks like the bond could be in trouble (again), essentially the insurer is over leveraged. Oh boy, not looking good for Donnie...

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@Planeforger said:

Turns out Trump is still struggling to pay the (heavily reduced) $175 million bond, even after he posted the bond on Monday.

The company that underwrote the bond has so far failed to demonstrate that it is capable of paying the bond or that it is financially sound. If they can't,Trump might have to start shopping for a new moneylender or risk losing his properties.

It's fun how a former president can't find a single legitimate company in the entire country to support him financially, but I guess if you spend your life ripping people off, it eventually comes back to bite you.

trumps lawyers trying to get him to NOT lie on his bond application.

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#1808 KathaarianCode
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I'm just disappointed that Sargent didn't bought enough Trump shoes.

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#1809  Edited By SargentD
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@kathaariancode said:

I'm just disappointed that Sargent didn't bought enough Trump shoes.

Democrats are a joke, this DA is a joke, they are making a mockery of NY and the country.

It's helping Trump win re election though.

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So let's hope they keep doing what they doing!!

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@sargentd said:
@kathaariancode said:

I'm just disappointed that Sargent didn't bought enough Trump shoes.

Democrats are a joke, this DA is a joke, they are making a mockery of NY and the country.

It's helping Trump win re election though.

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So let's hope they keep doing what they doing!!

yup I can't wait the first day he is in.

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#1811 KathaarianCode
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@gifford38: I've heard that he'll allow white men back in videogames. But only if you buy his shoes.

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@sargentd: Firstly, the only people saying "these court cases are helping Trump win" are from the right-wing media. No neutral, or international, or independent media sources are saying that. It simply isn't true.

Anyone who supported the "party of law and order" will feel conflicted about supporting a guy who is so obviously guilty of election fraud, hiding documents, etc. No moderates are going to be swayed by these court cases into suddenly voting for Trump. The only thing it does is further radicalise his base, who were already voting for him, and who were too small to win the last election.

Secondly, if these court cases were objectively unpopular and objectively helping Trump, the Democrats have access to exactly the same data and they'd pressure the various AGs to end the cases. The fact that they're still going, and that Trump is *squirming* under them, and that the right-wing media can't report on the cases truthfully without making Trump look terrible, suggests that these cases are hurting Trump now and will hurt him at the polls.

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Meanwhile, the Georgia case is going well. Trump's free speech defence was just shot down, so now he'll have to find some other way to excuse his attempts to tamper with the election there.

As a reminder, these are the criminal charges where Trump was caught on tape trying to pressure the Georgia Secretary of State to "find 11,780 votes", among other things.

Four of Trump's co-conspirators have already plead guilty to helping Trump's efforts to overthrow the election, and apologised to Georgia, so it's exciting to see what nonsense defence Trump tries next.

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#1814 lamprey263
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We can likely soon see securities fraud added to his list of crimes. I knew when DJT went public on the stock market and was overvalued that he'd likely lie to help keep the stock price up and with it tanking quick he's already sticking his foot in his mouth. Oh well, the SEC can take a ticket wait their turn perhaps they can get him into court in several years.

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@Planeforger said:

@sargentd: Firstly, the only people saying "these court cases are helping Trump win" are from the right-wing media. No neutral, or international, or independent media sources are saying that. It simply isn't true.

Anyone who supported the "party of law and order" will feel conflicted about supporting a guy who is so obviously guilty of election fraud, hiding documents, etc. No moderates are going to be swayed by these court cases into suddenly voting for Trump. The only thing it does is further radicalise his base, who were already voting for him, and who were too small to win the last election.

Secondly, if these court cases were objectively unpopular and objectively helping Trump, the Democrats have access to exactly the same data and they'd pressure the various AGs to end the cases. The fact that they're still going, and that Trump is *squirming* under them, and that the right-wing media can't report on the cases truthfully without making Trump look terrible, suggests that these cases are hurting Trump now and will hurt him at the polls.

I really hope you're right but I think you might be underestimating the Republican voters that will just default to voting Republican, even if they don't like Trump. That's a long tradition for them to break and with Democrats not really offering anything they like, it's even less likely to happen.

Hope I'm wrong, and that I'm underestimating their resolve to do the right thing.

But ya, the only folks that actually legitimately like Trump at this point are the 15-20% of the MAGA extremists out there. Even the GOP politicians are saying things are bad behind closed doors.

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#1816 uninspiredcup
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This woman aside from being a traitor is walking brain damage.

https://twitter.com/realXanderXjork/status/1777403612638966222

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#1817  Edited By Robertos  Online
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@sargentd said:
@kathaariancode said:

I'm just disappointed that Sargent didn't bought enough Trump shoes.

Democrats are a joke, this DA is a joke, they are making a mockery of NY and the country.

He lost that case with Letitia James due to the overwhelming evidence, no youtube video will alter this. It's over. It's done. Crying about it won't help you. He is factually a fraudster (and rapist).

You should be upset at Trump for constantly getting into legal trouble by doing illegal things, not at people for following the law and going after him. Don't be like that. I thought you guys were the party of law and order lol.

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@uninspiredcup: Dang, that hard turn in the middle gave me whiplash.

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@uninspiredcup said:

This woman aside from being a traitor is walking brain damage.

https://twitter.com/realXanderXjork/status/1777403612638966222

Does anyone actually buy into this shit!? It's just complete nonsense!

And lies! Why isn't it illegal to lie like that? Is it? Should it be? Or is this an example of "well it's not technically lying because you can't prove they haven't killed any Christians!"

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#1820  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@sargentd said:
@kathaariancode said:

I'm just disappointed that Sargent didn't bought enough Trump shoes.

Democrats are a joke, this DA is a joke, they are making a mockery of NY and the country.

It's helping Trump win re election though.

How much DJT Truth Social stock did you buy?

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@mrbojangles25: To the moon!

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#1822  Edited By uninspiredcup
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https://twitter.com/VABVOX/status/1777804001582481687

"If I had it my way, we would have been successful on January 6 and Joe Biden wouldn't be president"

Amazing.

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I love how the Republicans are sabotaging themselves with abortion. AZ dragging itself back to the 1800s, way to go guys. 👍🏼🙄 If Trump gets back in, expect even more. But hey, at least a few cents cheaper gas…..priorities!

The overwhelming majority of Americans are against this. The Democrats should be hammering it home every chance they get.

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@uninspiredcup: Listen.... They have a written plan for an autogulpe next year, and a failed attempt at one the prior presidential election. We don't need any more evidence that these people are traitors. Everything additional just adds to the undeniable pile.

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#1825  Edited By Planeforger
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A NY court has rejected Trump's latest attempts to delay the Stormy Daniels hush money trial.

Trump has also tried to win the court of public opinion by posting 'evidence' on his failing social media platform, but (a) it doesn't actually help his case and (b) it won't matter in a court of law.

Once again, we're in a situation where Trump will grandstand and lie to his followers online, crumple during the actual trial, then head back online for more outraged grandstanding.

Ooh, in other news, Trump's crack legal team subpoenaed the wrong guy for the hush money case. They wanted files from DA investigator Jeremy Rosenberg, but they actually subpoenaed some random guy called Jeremy Rosenberg from Brooklyn. He doesn't have any files.

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First day of trial he falls asleep. He's warned of he acts up, misses court, he'll be taken into custody.

Maybe his only victory is not having the Access Hollywood tape being played as it's at the center of motive for the capture and kill plot, but the jury will be allowed to see transcript. There's going to be quite a bit of testimony to other payments made that shape the prosecutions argument that they silenced people who had embarrassing sex stories about Trump.

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#1828  Edited By Ospi
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Confession to a crime is the 4d chess I expect from Trump.

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I wished Obama and Hillary weren't above showing up to sit in the audience just to gaslight him. He'd throw such a fit he'd be spending the rest of the trial at Rikers.

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#1830  Edited By SUD123456
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@lamprey263 said:

I wished Obama and Hillary weren't above showing up to sit in the audience just to gaslight him. He'd throw such a fit he'd be spending the rest of the trial at Rikers.

Haha, that's a genius idea. Would be hilaryous to see that.

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So Trump is trapped at court every day until this case is over, or else he'll be arrested for bail jumping. That's magnificent.

So far he has fallen asleep on both days of the proceedings. Sleepy Don, low energy, etc.

It's also hilarious that he argued he should be campaigning right now, since he was the reason this trial was delayed for so long.

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He’s falling asleep (or pretending to) as yet another way of showing disrespect and contempt to the courts and the law, and to provoke them so it gives him the opportunity to cry victim some more.

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#1833 Ospi
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@MirkoS77: that's just called being a conservative though.

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#1834  Edited By lamprey263
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Word is recently Trump is repeatedly violating his gag orders and talking about the jury. This will likely he the first thing addressed tomorrow morning in court. I expect Trump to be spending the a night or few at Rikers for this and/or future instances. The judge made it clear from the start he wouldn't tolerate this behavior, guess we'll see if it's just empty words like with other judges.

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This is an open and shut case, and Trump knows he can't possibly win this one.

So naturally, he's moved on to plan B: intimidate the jury, and intimidate the witnesses.

I guess when you're on trial for a dozen different crimes, you may as well just keep committing all of the crimes, right?

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Lol!

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#1837  Edited By Robertos  Online
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@sargentd said:

Lol!

But they did get him, and multiple times. He literally lost several major court cases and even an election since 2017.

  • Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll - The Washington Post
  • Trump ordered to pay $83.3M for defaming E. Jean Carroll - POLITICO
  • Trump ordered to pay $354.9m by New York court in civil fraud case | Donald Trump News | Al Jazeera
  • Federal court approves $25 million Trump University settlement (nbcnews.com)
  • Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds (ny.gov)
  • Presidential Election Results and Electoral Map 2020 (cnn.com)

You're living in an alternate reality lol.

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#1838  Edited By lamprey263
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He still has his $175M bond issue on the line, his lawyers will go to court without him on Monday to hash that out. If the lender can't convince the judge they have the financial leverage to cover the bond, he might learn on that very same day he starts his criminal trial the DA will have carte blanche to go after his assets (about half a billion dollars worth). The company that posted the bond has a shady past so this can go either which way, but it will be interesting to see Trump's court demeanor being reported that day should the hearing over the bond's integrity go against him. Potential epic meltdown ahead.

Plus, he has his hearings over his numerous violations the gag order the next day, Tuesday the 23rd. Here's hoping the judge is going stick to his previous warning, hold Trump in contempt, send him to Rikers during the duration of the trial, plus seize his cellphone. Still, this two sided legal system Trump complains about always shows considerable deference toward him to his own benefit. Quite possible he might get small slap on the wrist for each violation with fines, for now. Still, there's another jump ball that could go either way.

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#1839  Edited By lamprey263
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Someone just set themselves on fire on live TV outside the courthouse.

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#1840 uninspiredcup
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Do we know Sarge' location?

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this doesn't have the MO of a MAGA extremist, they'd be more likely to try attacking some federal/state building, I'd more likely assume this is some protest to Israel's current conflict, perhaps in response to Israel's attacks against Iran... anyhow, sure we'll get more information shortly.

If it is a MAGA die-hard, perhaps one that put their savings in DJT stock. Anybody's guess at this point.

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@lamprey263 said:

Someone just set themselves on fire on live TV outside the courthouse.

not the brightest idea

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#1843  Edited By SargentD
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@lamprey263 said:

Someone just set themselves on fire on live TV outside the courthouse.

I saw it live, just happened to have ABC on and saw him walking in the background on fire, thought I was tripping because the news lady wasn't saying anything about it.. then the fire spread and she kept saying their was a black bag on fire.. then they extinguished the fire and the camera panned to the "bag" that was definitely a dude.. a ashy curled up dude.. not a bag.. cameras immediately got cut off.. shit was ****ed up

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@uninspiredcup said:

Do we know Sarge' location?

I'm OK lol!!

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@sargentd said:
@lamprey263 said:

Someone just set themselves on fire on live TV outside the courthouse.

I saw it live, just happened to have ABC on and saw him walking in the background on fire, thought I was tripping because the news lady wasn't saying anything about it.. then the fire spread and she kept saying their was a black bag on fire.. then they extinguished the fire and the camera panned to the "bag" that was definitely a dude.. a ashy curled up dude.. not a bag.. cameras immediately got cut off.. shit was ****ed up

Guy who done it recently and filmed it. An idiot.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was inspired by that.

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#1846  Edited By SargentD
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@uninspiredcup said:
@sargentd said:
@lamprey263 said:

Someone just set themselves on fire on live TV outside the courthouse.

I saw it live, just happened to have ABC on and saw him walking in the background on fire, thought I was tripping because the news lady wasn't saying anything about it.. then the fire spread and she kept saying their was a black bag on fire.. then they extinguished the fire and the camera panned to the "bag" that was definitely a dude.. a ashy curled up dude.. not a bag.. cameras immediately got cut off.. shit was ****ed up

Guy who done it recently and filmed it. An idiot.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was inspired by that.

Didn't that guy do it over Palestine?

Can't imagine someone doing it over a stormy daniels hush money case.. even if that would be comical lol

Guy could just be unstable and wanted to take his life out where there were cameras.

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#1847  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Just saw clip of it put out, his legs are in the air and his arms are twitching, so he might alive.

Although he now does look like Liam Neeson in Darkman.

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@comp_atkins said:
@lamprey263 said:

Someone just set themselves on fire on live TV outside the courthouse.

not the brightest idea

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@uninspiredcup said:

Just saw clip of it put ut, his legs are in the air and his arms are twitching, so he might live.

Although he now does look like Liam Neeson in Darkman.

Yup lol.. Darwin award

If he lives he's going to be so scarred. It looked really bad

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#1850 lamprey263
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One witness nearby said the guy threw papers into the air before setting himself on fire. Word was rhe papers had some far fetched conspiracy theory dribble... hmm, perhaps it is MAGA, they love that Q-crap.