Xbox multiplatform details coming [Update: Business update is coming Feb 15th on the Official Xbox Podcast]

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Microsoft plans Starfield launch for PlayStation 5

According to sources, we understand that currently Microsoft are planning a launch for Starfield on PlayStation 5 post the release of the already announced “Shattered Space” expansion for Xbox and PC, which is on target to arrive at some point later this year. We’ve also been informed that Microsoft have made additionalinvestment into PlayStation 5 dev kits to support ongoing development efforts – adding further fuel to the fire.

As the already existing rumours have suggested, the idea of bringing 1st party titles to competing console platforms marks a massive change in strategy for Microsoft and from what I understand, it’s not been without fierce internal debate on this new direction. Releasing Starfield on PlayStation 5 contradicts the original statement around exclusivity made by President of Xbox Sarah Bond, during the Xbox and Bethesda Games Studios summer showcase of 2021.

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#104  Edited By sealionact
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Is this post still up? The source has already been debunked and idlesloth deleted his post.

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#105  Edited By lamprey263
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Despite all the dialog about MS going third party, I feel each title hinted at here would go multiplatform for different reasons.

Sea of Thieves going multiplatform I think is more about it becoming too big to just keep on Xbox. And it's a milestone of sorts. The MS owned IPs they have through acquisitions, the games are too big to just make exclusive, like Minecraft or COD. But Sea of Thieves would be an IP they built themselves that reached this considerable point. It's also smart to keep the community active by adding more players. I'd be curious what kind of cross-system support it has, and whether MS is using this as an exercise to develop cross-console and PC platform support. I can see this being made available across both PS and Switch to maximize the pool of players.

As for HiFi Rush, I'm more of the opinion this is being done simply to quell the precarious situation of Tango Gameworks. I can't imagine Japanese devs want to work making games on hardware that has practically no footprint in Japan. I'm more of the opinion such a move would need only limit releasing it on the Nintendo Switch. I don't think MS is threatened by the idea of releasing HiFi Rush on Nintendo's platform. It might also go to PS consoles too, but again, this is about keeping Tango Gameworks from falling apart. Honestly I'm surprised it didn't when Shinji Mikami left, and glad it didn't.

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#106 Pedro
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@sealionact said:

Is this post still up? The source has already been debunked and idlesloth deleted his post.

All Xbox games are being ported to the PS5 and Switch.

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#108  Edited By Saint-George
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@BenjaminBanklin:

Yip,that's been celebrated by saps who said nothing when ps first party went multiplat.....but here yous are all vocal and shit because xbox are gonna give you games and make money from you.

So is it about the games? Or profit and sales....I can't remember where the goalposts got moved too 😂🤣

Good job Xbox has more games,bigger franchise and makes more money 💰

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@ghostofgolden said:

Microsoft plans Starfield launch for PlayStation 5

According to sources, we understand that currently Microsoft are planning a launch for Starfield on PlayStation 5 post the release of the already announced “Shattered Space” expansion for Xbox and PC, which is on target to arrive at some point later this year. We’ve also been informed that Microsoft have made additionalinvestment into PlayStation 5 dev kits to support ongoing development efforts – adding further fuel to the fire.

As the already existing rumours have suggested, the idea of bringing 1st party titles to competing console platforms marks a massive change in strategy for Microsoft and from what I understand, it’s not been without fierce internal debate on this new direction. Releasing Starfield on PlayStation 5 contradicts the original statement around exclusivity made by President of Xbox Sarah Bond, during the Xbox and Bethesda Games Studios summer showcase of 2021.

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🤣 didn't Lems say Microsoft wouldn't spend all this money to make Bethesda games multiplat 🤣🤣

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@SolidGame_basic:

Didn't cows say ps first party wouldn't go multiplat 🤣😂

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@ghostofgolden said:

Microsoft plans Starfield launch for PlayStation 5

According to sources, we understand that currently Microsoft are planning a launch for Starfield on PlayStation 5 post the release of the already announced “Shattered Space” expansion for Xbox and PC, which is on target to arrive at some point later this year. We’ve also been informed that Microsoft have made additionalinvestment into PlayStation 5 dev kits to support ongoing development efforts – adding further fuel to the fire.

As the already existing rumours have suggested, the idea of bringing 1st party titles to competing console platforms marks a massive change in strategy for Microsoft and from what I understand, it’s not been without fierce internal debate on this new direction. Releasing Starfield on PlayStation 5 contradicts the original statement around exclusivity made by President of Xbox Sarah Bond, during the Xbox and Bethesda Games Studios summer showcase of 2021.

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Pete Hines gets pissed that Activision gets to stay on PS5 but Starfield and Redfall didn't. Then Pete Hines leaves. Now they're planning on putting Starfield on PS5. I tell you MS just doesn't know what they're doing. Like at all...

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#112  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@ghostofgolden said:

Microsoft plans Starfield launch for PlayStation 5

According to sources, we understand that currently Microsoft are planning a launch for Starfield on PlayStation 5 post the release of the already announced “Shattered Space” expansion for Xbox and PC, which is on target to arrive at some point later this year. We’ve also been informed that Microsoft have made additionalinvestment into PlayStation 5 dev kits to support ongoing development efforts – adding further fuel to the fire.

As the already existing rumours have suggested, the idea of bringing 1st party titles to competing console platforms marks a massive change in strategy for Microsoft and from what I understand, it’s not been without fierce internal debate on this new direction. Releasing Starfield on PlayStation 5 contradicts the original statement around exclusivity made by President of Xbox Sarah Bond, during the Xbox and Bethesda Games Studios summer showcase of 2021.

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🤣 didn't Lems say Microsoft wouldn't spend all this money to make Bethesda games multiplat 🤣🤣

A lot of the things I told lems would happen are starting to happen. This is one of them. It wasn't that hard either because their CFO at the time of the acquisition said as much.

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@saint-george said:

@SolidGame_basic:

Didn't cows say ps first party wouldn't go multiplat 🤣😂

PlayStation isn't putting their games on Xbox silly 🙃

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@SolidGame_basic: this is devastating. Xbox might want to hold that conversation now and not wait till spring because this is just gonna get worse for them. It went from Hi Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves to Starfield and Indiana Jones…what’s next? I’m just gonna plug my PS5 back in if this is the case.

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#116  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@ghostofgolden said:

Same with Blade. It's far out enough out that their strategy shift will be in full swing.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@loudheadphones said:

Actually it won't be case by case as hinted by Schreier that axe are gonna fall soon. Pretty much MS going all in 3rd party. Case by case games won't bring +80$ bil. back.

I think the axe was something about his book. I'm not sure if MS is gonna be all in yet. They're gonna still try to float the dead horse that is Game Pass. Stuff is gonna trickle to rival platforms though. The market is cornering them to do it

They can't float dead horse that is Gamepass. Xbox hardware sales are.....basically non existent in Europe and Asia, only US keep Xbox hardware. But that isn't enough in any way. Gamepass is very tied to Xbox hardware sales. Also, just like it was with Xbone, now with XSeries is the same. Xbox hardware had huge firesales/discounts during holidays....and what happened? Same as with Xbone. Sales goes downhill since January till next October because Xbox is now a holiday console. Everyone will wait for next firesales. I mean, XSX for 349$ and then go back to 499$.

Oct-Dec 2023 vs. 2022, so holidays, XBS is down in units

  • US : ~ -6%
  • EU : Oct -52%, Nov -26%, Dec -19%
  • UK : ~ flat

For this very reason, MS is going all in 3rd party. They need to bring back that +80$ bil. somehow. which they've spent in last 2 and a half years.

It is happening

@thatforumuser said:

Every thing now is all Xbox - the Xbox PC Xbox Play Station - every player will thank Uncle Phil and bring money for Xbox games. Game Pass and Xbox Every Where. What plastic you buy and phyisical is the old way to think - the platform is the Xbox it is the future!!

Xbox's future is on other platforms, yes. Its own hardware won't cut it. Therefore, Xbox will became the biggest 3rd party publisher

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@SolidGame_basic said:

🤣 didn't Lems say Microsoft wouldn't spend all this money to make Bethesda games multiplat 🤣🤣

Microsoft also didn’t spend $80 billion for 40% growth over 2022’s numbers. Folks didn’t want to believe me when I said the math was gonna have to start making sense. The day of reckoning is here.

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Lems thinking Zenimax and Activision acquisition is expanding xbox exclusive line up but it turns out Xbox is expanding, on PlayStation lmaooooo 🤣🤣

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@ghostofgolden said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

🤣 didn't Lems say Microsoft wouldn't spend all this money to make Bethesda games multiplat 🤣🤣

Microsoft also didn’t spend $80 billion for 40% growth over 2022’s numbers. Folks didn’t want to believe me when I said the math was gonna have to start making sense. The day of reckoning is here.

@sakaixx said:

Lems thinking Zenimax and Activision acquisition is expanding xbox exclusive line up but it turns out Xbox is expanding, on PlayStation lmaooooo 🤣🤣

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Open the floodgate

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Somebody is leaking this shit to the press. Somebody that doesn’t want to wait until “Spring” to get the ball rolling.

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@daredevils2k: You have been acknowledged.🙄

thanks amigo !

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#124  Edited By dabear
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@BenjaminBanklin: If Xbox games go to PS5 and PS games stay off Xbox, I'm done with MS.

Sony can have the gaming industry. I got my motorcycle, archery, and fishing.

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@dabear said:

@BenjaminBanklin: If Xbox games go to PS5 and PS games stay off Xbox, I'm done with MS.

Sony can have the gaming industry. I got my motorcycle, archery, and fishing.

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#126  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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If Indiana Jones comes out on the ps5 just a couple of months later, this confirmes exactly what i was saying from the very beginning - Starfield did EXTREMELY poorly, and Microsft now knows that they can't develop games for a platform nobody buys video games for. Their competition is NEEDED for them to survive, since their own fans don't support them even a tiny bit.

Really is disgusting to think that their own fans don't care about their favorite company.

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@dabear: You're done, then. Sell your X before the resale value drops to $50.

It just shows how disrespectful Microsoft is toward their fans. There is ZERO chance of Sony exclusives ever being available on an Xbox because Sony isn't desperate. If Microsoft offers their service to all systems, what difference is there between the Xbox and a prostitute? Ask yourself that simple question, dabear, and don't forget that we, cows, we would gladly see you join us on the Blue side, and no questions asked either. You have a couple of months to decide, but the quicker you jump over, the better you will feel.

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@sealionact said:

Is this post still up? The source has already been debunked and idlesloth deleted his post.

You're gonna mald so hard when its official, that i expect you to completely disappear from SW out of shame, just like the majority of Sheep when the WiiU came out. Extremely difficult times are approaching, and my best guess is that most of you aren't ready.

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@loudheadphones said:

They can't float dead horse that is Gamepass. Xbox hardware sales are.....basically non existent in Europe and Asia, only US keep Xbox hardware. But that isn't enough in any way. Gamepass is very tied to Xbox hardware sales. Also, just like it was with Xbone, now with XSeries is the same. Xbox hardware had huge firesales/discounts during holidays....and what happened? Same as with Xbone. Sales goes downhill since January till next October because Xbox is now a holiday console. Everyone will wait for next firesales. I mean, XSX for 349$ and then go back to 499$.

Oct-Dec 2023 vs. 2022, so holidays, XBS is down in units

  • US : ~ -6%
  • EU : Oct -52%, Nov -26%, Dec -19%
  • UK : ~ flat

For this very reason, MS is going all in 3rd party. They need to bring back that +80$ bil. somehow. which they've spent in last 2 and a half years.

It is happening

@thatforumuser said:

Every thing now is all Xbox - the Xbox PC Xbox Play Station - every player will thank Uncle Phil and bring money for Xbox games. Game Pass and Xbox Every Where. What plastic you buy and phyisical is the old way to think - the platform is the Xbox it is the future!!

Xbox's future is on other platforms, yes. Its own hardware won't cut it. Therefore, Xbox will became the biggest 3rd party publisher

Holy shit. I can't believe it. I though MS would try to hold out forever. I truly believe that Starfield was the straw the broke the camel's back. You can't do Game Pass and try to sell huge titles at the same time. But, yeah. Looks like Xbox is in the 3rd party publishing business.

I actually think Game Pass was a hail mary to try and pull the market for itself... and it just didn't work. There's no way it could have. If what's happening is truly happening, then they're overturning Phil Spencer's decisions too. This is absolutely WILD!

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Rip Xbox.. it's over.

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Xbox needs to come out and clear the air on this mess; it has the potential to dramatically hurt its brand. Be clear and honest about the future of Xbox no matter what it is.

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#132  Edited By SargentD
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MS knows that the money is in software sales. These companies aren't living on hardware sales whether it's PS, SX, Switch.

Xbox already been day 1 PC with all its 1st party, it's a natural first step.

Cows won't think it's funny when the most played games on Playstation are made by MS.

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@uitravioience: Sarah is a beautiful woman, uncle Phil had good taste in his hiring.

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But to be honest, we do need a competitive 1st party console publisher so that Sony doesn't get greedy. Nintendo is not trying to dominate the living room anymore but they now facing competition from Steamdeck + major PC builders like Lenovo and Asus doing handhelds as well. Leaving Sony alone may have disastrous consequences.

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Damn, didn’t know Jim Ryan was so jacked

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@BenjaminBanklin: how many alt accounts do you have mr butthurt? You probably have way more posts than Pedro, when you count all your raging alts.

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Would Sony allow Gamepass on Playstation?

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I love MS and uncle Phil's strategy. We're Trojan horsing the shit out of the cows, and soo their turd console will be called Microsoft Xbox Playstation.

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@sargentd said:

Would Sony allow Gamepass on Playstation?

No. And there would be no need.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@BenjaminBanklin: how many alt accounts do you have mr butthurt? You probably have way more posts than Pedro, when you count all your raging alts.

You're not taking this well, I see. Why do I need alt accounts when I've always owned every lem on this one? I mean. I won! 🤣🤣🤣

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I can't wait for the day the war is over. The Playstation fanbase lived to see the unconditional surrender of those who review bombed PS games for decades, only to see their own stuff on Playstation and the death of their platform's identity.

Playstation and Nintendo keep their identity and xbox, well. It never stuck.

What kind of name is "XBOX" anyway, it always sounded dumb to me.

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@sakaixx said:

But to be honest, we do need a competitive 1st party console publisher so that Sony doesn't get greedy. Nintendo is not trying to dominate the living room anymore but they now facing competition from Steamdeck + major PC builders like Lenovo and Asus doing handhelds as well. Leaving Sony alone may have disastrous consequences.

I mean, that can always still happen. Any of the major tech firms, groups of publishers or computer hardware makers can throw their hat in the game if things get out of control with Sony. I mean, it's not like anyone can't be challenged, you just have to offer the right product.

The problem with Xbox is they didn't try to do it organically. Their method was to powerspend through gaming to hopefully get their rivals to submit, and that cost was way too high apparently. But, really though. It's hard to say what the market would even look like by that time anyway.

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@sakaixx said:

But to be honest, we do need a competitive 1st party console publisher so that Sony doesn't get greedy. Nintendo is not trying to dominate the living room anymore but they now facing competition from Steamdeck + major PC builders like Lenovo and Asus doing handhelds as well. Leaving Sony alone may have disastrous consequences.

No! We don't need competition. Sony is will continue to compete with itself. This is great for console gaming.😏

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@Nonstop-Madness: Xbox says they’ll address it in the spring but honestly it’s boiled over now. It can’t wait. They should take a couple days to build a script and address it. No more hiding, what’s the plan?

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@Pedro: your meltdown is glorious 😎

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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Pedro: your meltdown is glorious 😎

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@Pedro: Exactly. Now that Sony will have less competition they won’t have to try as hard. Surely they will pass these savings on to the consumer. 😎

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#148  Edited By Pedro
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@Pedro: Exactly. Now that Sony will have less competition they won’t have to try as hard. Surely they will pass these savings on to the consumer. 😎

I can't wait. By the end of the week we will be rich with all the savings and free rent.😏

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Laying off all the Community Managers may not have been the best move right now lmao

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#150  Edited By SargentD
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

I love MS and uncle Phil's strategy. We're Trojan horsing the shit out of the cows, and soo their turd console will be called Microsoft Xbox Playstation.

Pretty much how I see it. MS sees the writing on the wall clear as day, put your software on max amount of hardware = more profit. It's not complicated. Cows scoffed at MS day one on PC on 1st party, now Sony is porting thier games to PC but don't have as good of integration. None of these company make thier money off hardware. If MS is selling shit tons of software on PS PC SX and Switch.. there really isn't a downside. They don't need to be #1 in hardware sales to be successful and they will continue to make hardware because they are good at it. Playstation and Switch going to make Xbox MONEY. Just like PC ports making both Sony and MS MONEY