Hellblade 2 looks amazing - will run at 30fps

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#51 R4gn4r0k
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Graphics is the only thing that it'll have, and that's only because you'll be walking in a straight line the whole playthrough. Forget about large environment, this game might as well be on rails.

Guy jealous his favourite game of the generation looks like it could run on the Nintendo 64.

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#52 Litchie
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@kvallyx: First true next gen game, lmao. It consist of tiny areas and plays itself.

How far in the game are you? Asking for a friend.

You think it's going to be completely different from what they've shown? How so?

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#53 KvallyX
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@davillain said:

most console gamers don't like digital-only option is a turnoff for most gamers.

Most console gamers buy digital over physical.

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#54 R4gn4r0k
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@kvallyx said:
@davillain said:

most console gamers don't like digital-only option is a turnoff for most gamers.

Most console gamers buy digital over physical.

I really wonder what the split is these days as whenever we sales numbers people be like:

"Well we gotta wait for digital sales to take into account"

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#55 dabear
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It's funny seeing all these cows in here criticizing HB2 for 4k/30 fps, while at the same time not being able to STFU about Stellar Blade... which runs at 4k/30fps.

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#56 R4gn4r0k
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@dabear said:

It's funny seeing all these cows in here criticizing HB2 for 4k/30 fps, while at the same time not being able to STFU about Stellar Blade... which runs at 4k/30fps.

Enemies also look a fair bit more detailed in Hellblade 2 🤭

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@dabear said:

It's funny seeing all these cows in here criticizing HB2 for 4k/30 fps, while at the same time not being able to STFU about Stellar Blade... which runs at 4k/30fps.

Dude. Shallow no-name Korean jiggly boobs DMC ripoff is gonna be amazing.

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Very good. I ended up enjoying the first game more then I was expecting so am really looking forward to this sequel. Game is looking fantastic.

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@Litchie said:
@dabear said:

It's funny seeing all these cows in here criticizing HB2 for 4k/30 fps, while at the same time not being able to STFU about Stellar Blade... which runs at 4k/30fps.

Dude. Shallow no-name Korean jiggly boobs DMC ripoff is gonna be amazing.

We haven't had boob physics since Dead or Alive Xtreme 3, throw a man a bone.

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#60 R4gn4r0k
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Very good. I ended up enjoying the first game more then I was expecting so am really looking forward to this sequel. Game is looking fantastic.

Hell yeah dude, same here: day one on gamepass 💪

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

Graphics is the only thing that it'll have, and that's only because you'll be walking in a straight line the whole playthrough. Forget about large environment, this game might as well be on rails.

Guy jealous his favourite game of the generation looks like it could run on the Nintendo 64.

Art direction is superior to anything out there, and it won goty for a reason. This, tho, this is Made For Gamepass Shovelware that they don't even have the audacity of selling for full price cuz its just linear garbage.

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@R4gn4r0k: Absolutely. Thank you Phil! 🙏

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@kvallyx said:
@davillain said:

most console gamers don't like digital-only option is a turnoff for most gamers.

Most console gamers buy digital over physical.

I really wonder what the split is these days as whenever we sales numbers people be like:

"Well we gotta wait for digital sales to take into account"

I forgot to say the first Hellbalde was digital-only but that still doesn't give the excuse to not offer physical to those who still enjoy owning the game even though we know physical disc means jacked by today's standard. I may be PC/digital gamer, but I still like seeing more options for gamers to have.

And you can argue Game Pass gets a pass (no pun intended) but for me, I like buying my games to support developers for those who have earned my money.

As for digital sales, Epic said AW2 was a success and I personally enjoy AW2.

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#64  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@hardwenzen said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

Graphics is the only thing that it'll have, and that's only because you'll be walking in a straight line the whole playthrough. Forget about large environment, this game might as well be on rails.

Guy jealous his favourite game of the generation looks like it could run on the Nintendo 64.

Art direction is superior to anything out there, and it won goty for a reason. This, tho, this is Made For Gamepass Shovelware that they don't even have the audacity of selling for full price cuz its just linear garbage.

They ported Portal to N64 the other day, pretty sure Elden Ring would take less work because damn that is some bland and empty looking world, should work on that limited RAM.

"Art direction is superior to anything out there"

Also WTF Is this even supposed to mean? You made two threads bashing Rise of the Ronin and now pull a 180? I thought you had spine but you just twist to whatever bullshit helps you out of the moment, shameless.

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@davillain said:

I forgot to say the first Hellbalde was digital-only but that still doesn't give the excuse to not offer physical to those who still enjoy owning the game even though we know physical disc means jacked by today's standard. I may be PC/digital gamer, but I still like seeing more options for gamers to have.

And you can argue Game Pass gets a pass (no pun intended) but for me, I like buying my games to support developers for those who have earned my money.

As for digital sales, Epic said AW2 was a success and I personally enjoy AW2.

As long as Remedy gets to make more great games, that's all good for me.

Both Control/505 and AW2/Epic have had their fair share of controversies, and I can happily say I didn't care one bit.

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Lmao 30fps. Xbox love their movie games 🤣🤣

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#67  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@dabear said:

It's funny seeing all these cows in here criticizing HB2 for 4k/30 fps, while at the same time not being able to STFU about Stellar Blade... which runs at 4k/30fps.

Well, that's because Stellar Blade has 3 modes: (And I dare say I'm super hype for Stellar Blade myself)

  1. Performance mode at 60fps
  2. Resolution mode at 4K/30fps
  3. Balanced mode with a balance between the two previous modes

The main difference is, PS5 has those options available, but Hellblade 2 for Xbox Series does not...especially for the X to not have a performance option is a question cause the X is supposed to be the most powerful console right? I always go for Performance mode on PS5, always because I prefer better framerates to better graphics myself.

Look, I'm a PC gamer, I don't like 30fps at all! But I don't disagree with the choice Ninja Theory is making with Stellar Blade. Being 30fps will make the use of motion blur to hide 30fps so that's one of the reasons motion blur is good for. The problem is, that Ninja Theory is behind the times because 60fps should have been the target choice is where the criticism is coming from.

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#68 R4gn4r0k
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@sakaixx said:

Lmao 30fps. Xbox love their movie games 🤣🤣

On the bright side this game looks a fair bit better than Starfield did.

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#69 R4gn4r0k
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@davillain: I think these modes are becoming deceptive and diluted.

You'd think selecting "performance" mode in any game would give you a locked 60fps but this wasn't the case for Rise of The Ronin nor Outcast 2.

This is not an attack on Stellar Blade as it's more a general constatation.

IMHO What's the use of a performance mode when they know it can't get 60fps? Might as wel not have one to be honest.

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#70 Warm_Gun
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Will it be another one out of five game? Signs point to yes.

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#71  Edited By hardwenzen
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

Graphics is the only thing that it'll have, and that's only because you'll be walking in a straight line the whole playthrough. Forget about large environment, this game might as well be on rails.

Guy jealous his favourite game of the generation looks like it could run on the Nintendo 64.

Art direction is superior to anything out there, and it won goty for a reason. This, tho, this is Made For Gamepass Shovelware that they don't even have the audacity of selling for full price cuz its just linear garbage.

They ported Portal to N64 the other day, pretty sure Elden Ring would take less work because damn that is some bland and empty looking world, should work on that limited RAM.

"Art direction is superior to anything out there"

Also WTF Is this even supposed to mean? You made two threads bashing Rise of the Ronin and now pull a 180? I thought you had spine but you just twist to whatever bullshit helps you out of the moment, shameless.

Rise of the Ronin might as well be a gamepass exclusive, its exactly the kind of games i expect it to have.

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#72 DaVillain  Moderator
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@sakaixx said:

Lmao 30fps. Xbox love their movie games 🤣🤣

On the bright side this game looks a fair bit better than Starfield did.

Just be glad Stellar Blade 2 is not a FPS game because if it were...

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Ninja Theory does story well for their games but combat was never been a strength... well, I have to make an exception over their DMC game, not sure how they pulled that off. Glad to hear it was a focus for improvement in this upcoming game, now we'll see how well they did that when it release in a few weeks.

I'd out Bloober in a similar boat on Sony's side of things with the Silent Hill 2 remake. Love their games but combat has been pretty non-existent with them, also utilizing UE5, and should release later this year.

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#74  Edited By KvallyX
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@Litchie said:
@kvallyx said:
@Litchie said:

@kvallyx: First true next gen game, lmao. It consist of tiny areas and plays itself.

How far in the game are you? Asking for a friend.

You think it's going to be completely different from what they've shown? How so?

You said the game is all tiny areas. I haven't seen just tiny areas in what they have shown.

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@SecretPolice said:

OMG, OMG, OMG!!

Thank you GamePass!! lol :P

bahahaa, game looks great tho!

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What's killing me about the 30 FPS thing is that it's also dynamic resolution. Normally this gen you drop resolution when you're trying to hit 60, not 30. I'll be playing this on PC anyway but geez.

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#77  Edited By Litchie
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@kvallyx said:
@Litchie said:
@kvallyx said:
@Litchie said:

@kvallyx: First true next gen game, lmao. It consist of tiny areas and plays itself.

How far in the game are you? Asking for a friend.

You think it's going to be completely different from what they've shown? How so?

You said the game is all tiny areas. I haven't seen just tiny areas in what they have shown.

No, I said it consists of tiny areas. Watching the video again now, and yes. It's all tiny areas, lol. In literally every scene. And when there's fighting (aka, the little gameplay there is) you see like 5 metres in front of you.

Were you counting the cinematics and the backgrounds when you walk on the thin tracks or something?

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Sounds like it would be more enjoyable to watch then play.

Heavenly Sword and DMC2012 were solid action games, the direction they've gone since has been disappointing.

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@hardwenzen said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

They ported Portal to N64 the other day, pretty sure Elden Ring would take less work because damn that is some bland and empty looking world, should work on that limited RAM.

"Art direction is superior to anything out there"

Also WTF Is this even supposed to mean? You made two threads bashing Rise of the Ronin and now pull a 180? I thought you had spine but you just twist to whatever bullshit helps you out of the moment, shameless.

Rise of the Ronin might as well be a gamepass exclusive, its exactly the kind of games i expect it to have.

Yeah it's not like cows are interested in buying Sony games anyway, they're more interested in buying Microsoft offerings.

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@kvallyx said:
@davillain said:

most console gamers don't like digital-only option is a turnoff for most gamers.

Most console gamers buy digital over physical.

I would never buy this game digitally at full price, what a waste of money.

I'll try it on gamepass

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

They ported Portal to N64 the other day, pretty sure Elden Ring would take less work because damn that is some bland and empty looking world, should work on that limited RAM.

"Art direction is superior to anything out there"

Also WTF Is this even supposed to mean? You made two threads bashing Rise of the Ronin and now pull a 180? I thought you had spine but you just twist to whatever bullshit helps you out of the moment, shameless.

Rise of the Ronin might as well be a gamepass exclusive, its exactly the kind of games i expect it to have.

Yeah it's not like cows are interested in buying Sony games anyway, they're more interested in buying Microsoft offerings.

Its not a game made by Sony. We rejected it.

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@davillain said:
@dabear said:

It's funny seeing all these cows in here criticizing HB2 for 4k/30 fps, while at the same time not being able to STFU about Stellar Blade... which runs at 4k/30fps.

Well, that's because Stellar Blade has 3 modes: (And I dare say I'm super hype for Stellar Blade myself)

  1. Performance mode at 60fps
  2. Resolution mode at 4K/30fps
  3. Balanced mode with a balance between the two previous modes

The main difference is, PS5 has those options available, but Hellblade 2 for Xbox Series does not...especially for the X to not have a performance option is a question cause the X is supposed to be the most powerful console right? I always go for Performance mode on PS5, always because I prefer better framerates to better graphics myself.

Look, I'm a PC gamer, I don't like 30fps at all! But I don't disagree with the choice Ninja Theory is making with Stellar Blade. Being 30fps will make the use of motion blur to hide 30fps so that's one of the reasons motion blur is good for. The problem is, that Ninja Theory is behind the times because 60fps should have been the target choice is where the criticism is coming from.

So, because Ninja Theory doesn't think a performance mode, with scaled back visuals (Stellar Blade's Performance mode is 1080p), is warranted, somehow that's a rationale to crap oh Hellblade II?

That pretty weak, even for cows.

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@hardwenzen: So it has to be made by Sony and have big boob ladies?

What insane cult is this?

And how can I join?

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@hardwenzen: So it has to be made by Sony and have big boob ladies?

What insane cult is this?

And how can I join?

You can't. Its exclusive.

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@Litchie said:
@kvallyx said:

You said the game is all tiny areas. I haven't seen just tiny areas in what they have shown.

No, I said it consists of tiny areas. Watching the video again now, and yes. It's all tiny areas, lol. In literally every scene. And when there's fighting (aka, the little gameplay there is) you see like 5 metres in front of you.

Were you counting the cinematics and the backgrounds when you walk on the thin tracks or something?

So you haven't played it. Got it ;)

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#86 KvallyX
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@sargentd said:
@kvallyx said:
@davillain said:

most console gamers don't like digital-only option is a turnoff for most gamers.

Most console gamers buy digital over physical.

I would never buy this game digitally at full price, what a waste of money.

I'll try it on gamepass

Day one, full price for me. $49.99 is cheap. I buy a single margarita in Chicago at Mercaditos for more than that. I piss it out an hour later.

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game seems amazing, heck yeah

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#88 hardwenzen
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

game seems amazing, heck yeah

gamepass shovelware, bro. Calm down. It ain't full price for a reason, they'll use it as ammunition to damage control its short mediocrity.

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#89 R4gn4r0k
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Wonder why there's only one hater for Gamepass in this thread and everyone else loves it or just prefers to buy their games.

Best deal in gaming. Blessed Phil Spencer.

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#90 hardwenzen
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Might as well show Elden Scrolls 7 on there😆Perfect Dark and Fable won't be out by 2037, so it only makes sense to include titles that won't be available even 10 years from now.

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#91 R4gn4r0k
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@hardwenzen said:

Might as well show Elden Scrolls 7 on there😆Perfect Dark and Fable won't be out by 2037, so it only makes sense to include titles that won't be available even 10 years from now.

Even if 2024 is Hellblade, Commandos, Avowed and Age of Mythology that's still a better deal than anything on PS5.

You're paying 40 bucks for an expansion pack.

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Combat looks like garbage, just like the original

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#93 hardwenzen
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@R4gn4r0k: Even if? Who said that those 4 will be out? Avowed for example looked like its pre pre pre pre alpha stage, and i am supposed to believe its coming out this year? Commandos and Hellblade2 is what you'll get, proper shovelware.

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#94  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@hardwenzen: let's bet. I bet you those four will be out by Dec 31st 2024. You bet they won't.

Show me you got a spine Hardwenzen and bet with me.

Loser can't post on here for a month or has to wear some loser signature for a month the other guy chooses.

Show me you don't believe in Phil Spencer, show me you're not all talk, show me you got a spine.

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Nothing Happened.

also simple game gameplay that donee right and cinematic walking sim are 2 different things.

simple gameplay like Max payne was one of the greatest game of all time.

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#96 hardwenzen
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@hardwenzen: let's bet. I bet you those four will be out by Dec 31st 2024. You bet they won't.

Show me you got a spine Hardwenzen and bet with me.

Loser can't post on here for a month or has to wear some loser signature for a month the other guy chooses.

Show me you don't believe in Phil Spencer, show me you're not all talk, show me you got a spine.

I am always right, so betting against me is suicide.

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#97 R4gn4r0k
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@ghosts4ever said:

Nothing Happened.

also simple game gameplay that donee right and cinematic walking sim are 2 different things.

simple gameplay like Max payne was one of the greatest game of all time.

If Max Payne came out today people would shit on it to.

In fact Max Payne did launch the other day, and I bet you didn't even play it.

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#98 Gifford38
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@kvallyx said:
@Litchie said:
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You said the game is all tiny areas. I haven't seen just tiny areas in what they have shown.

No, I said it consists of tiny areas. Watching the video again now, and yes. It's all tiny areas, lol. In literally every scene. And when there's fighting (aka, the little gameplay there is) you see like 5 metres in front of you.

Were you counting the cinematics and the backgrounds when you walk on the thin tracks or something?

So you haven't played it. Got it ;)

Nor have you. its going to be small areas just like the first one.

gameplay just like the first one with maybe added movies.

safer to go off of the first game than you guess its not small areas.

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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:

So you haven't played it. Got it ;)

Nor have you.

I never claimed the areas were big nor tiny in the new unreleased Hellblade 2. I won't claim something that nobody knows yet.

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#100 Gifford38
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

Might as well show Elden Scrolls 7 on there😆Perfect Dark and Fable won't be out by 2037, so it only makes sense to include titles that won't be available even 10 years from now.

Even if 2024 is Hellblade, Commandos, Avowed and Age of Mythology that's still a better deal than anything on PS5.

You're paying 40 bucks for an expansion pack.

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Hellblade, Commandos, Avowed and Age of Mythology. really that is better than steller blade,final fantasy(9), helldriver2(9), rise of ronin(7)?

age of Mythology came out in 2002 and is a remake.

commandos another strategy game.

hellblade 2,avowed,indian. better be scoring better than ones above.

so 3 exclusives vs 3 third party exclusives.

40 bucks for expansion pack what game?