Hellblade 2 looks amazing - will run at 30fps

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#101 Gifford38
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@kvallyx said:
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So you haven't played it. Got it ;)

Nor have you.

I never claimed the areas were big nor tiny in the new unreleased Hellblade 2. I won't claim something that nobody knows yet.

but your denying the fact he is going off the first game. that's all.

most sequels are like the last game.

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#102 KvallyX
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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:
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So you haven't played it. Got it ;)

Nor have you.

I never claimed the areas were big nor tiny in the new unreleased Hellblade 2. I won't claim something that nobody knows yet.

but your denying the fact he is going off the first game. that's all.

most sequels are like the last game.

I am not denying anything. I said nobody knows. Pretty simple really. I also never claimed the game was going to have big or small areas.

But you tried ;)

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#103  Edited By Litchie
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@kvallyx said:
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You said the game is all tiny areas. I haven't seen just tiny areas in what they have shown.

No, I said it consists of tiny areas. Watching the video again now, and yes. It's all tiny areas, lol. In literally every scene. And when there's fighting (aka, the little gameplay there is) you see like 5 metres in front of you.

Were you counting the cinematics and the backgrounds when you walk on the thin tracks or something?

So you haven't played it. Got it ;)

Of course not, the game isn't out yet. Really didn't think it was needed to be said. Still don't find it very likely it'll pull a 180 from the prequel and footage and offer large areas.

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#104 GhostOfGolden
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The biggest surprise about this preview was learning that GamePro was still a thing. I had no idea!

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#105  Edited By UItravioIence
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The first movie wasn't very good imo. Not gonna watch the sequel.

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#106  Edited By Gifford38
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I don't get all the hate for 30fps for this type of game.

30fps gen after gen yet its a bad thing now a days.

yes 60 is better but these types of graphics on a 500 buck machine is expected just saying.

I love 120hrz 40fps modes. every game this gen should have that mode.

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Nothing Happened.

also simple game gameplay that donee right and cinematic walking sim are 2 different things.

simple gameplay like Max payne was one of the greatest game of all time.

If Max Payne came out today people would shit on it to.

In fact Max Payne did launch the other day, and I bet you didn't even play it.

people would talk shit about any game. just look how much good game yet got bash here.

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Rather play Life Is Strange with Ghost than this 30fps mess.

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@gifford38: What is 120 hrz 40 fps mode?

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@ghostofgolden said:

The biggest surprise about this preview was learning that GamePro was still a thing. I had no idea!

Really? I haven't look at the vid on the preview yet, but about GamePro is that GamePro was my first video game magazines got into the world of gaming media. I was a huge supporter for years and even got into my first gaming site with them. I thought they were gone as well. This also took me by surprise.

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#111  Edited By Gifford38
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@gifford38: What is 120 hrz 40 fps mode?

If you have a hdmi 2.1 or 2.2 what ever it is port on your tv you can turn it to 120hrz and get 40fps instead of 30fps. many games support it from sony. ratchet and clank,hfw2,god of war rag and more.

you get fadelty mode but in 40fps. in my opinion its the best way to play.

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#112 Gifford38
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@davillain said:
@ghostofgolden said:

The biggest surprise about this preview was learning that GamePro was still a thing. I had no idea!

Really? I haven't look at the vid on the preview yet, but about GamePro is that GamePro was my first video game magazines got into the world of gaming media. I was a huge supporter for years and even got into my first gaming site with them. I thought they were gone as well. This also took me by surprise.

is a magazine still or is a game site now?

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@gifford38: They don't do magazines anymore and as for the site, it's been merge with a different company the last time I've heard.

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#114 Gifford38
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@davillain said:

@gifford38: They don't do magazines anymore and as for the site, it's been merge with a different company the last time I've heard.

I miss gaming magazine with the demo disk in side.

some of the best to worst artwork in those magazines.

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@hardwenzen: Back under your Bridge. This thread concerns gamers actually buying games for their consoles.

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@hardwenzen: Back under your Bridge. This thread concerns gamers actually buying games for their consoles.

Imagine buying whatever garbage is coming to your system just because its available on a system you own. How foolish.

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#117  Edited By BassMan  Online
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30fps....

The game runs so shit that co-founder and chief creative director Tameem Antoniades has left Ninja Theory...

https://gamerant.com/ninja-theory-co-founder-left-why-hellblade-2/

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#118 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Not as foolish as buying a system knowing that you’re not going to buy the games that define it.

Isn’t your precious Bloodborne 30fps?

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I'll pass thanks.

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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Not as foolish as buying a system knowing that you’re not going to buy the games that define it.

Isn’t your precious Bloodborne 30fps?

My precious bloodborne, a game FROM 2015, is indeed in 30fps and under, and that was the standard. Now, if you accept this kind of performance, you're fool, a clown and a freak.

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lmao devs are running away before this disaster comes out🤣

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#122 R4gn4r0k
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Speaking of freaks, has anybody seen Freedomfreak?

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@hardwenzen: So when 60fps games were readily made, it was ok for Bloodborne to do 30fps…didn’t affect your enjoyment of the game…?

Hypocrisy Wenzen. Hypocrisy.

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@hardwenzen: So when 60fps games were readily made, it was ok for Bloodborne to do 30fps…didn’t affect your enjoyment of the game…?

Hypocrisy Wenzen. Hypocrisy.

My standards back then were your current, incredibly low standards. I upgraded while you haven't moved an inch. This is what's frustrating.

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@hardwenzen: Your standards were 30fps when there were 60fps games on ps3?

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All hail Phil Spencer, uniting 60fps and 30fps gamers alike.

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@davillain: Was it Gamepro magazine that had all different heads when they reviewed ganes? Like a 5/5 had a dude with spiked hair and a massive smile on his face and it was all in red?

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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Your standards were 30fps when there were 60fps games on ps3?

Oh look he found 4 games running in 60fps. Stop being a buffoon, sealionact.

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I look forward to the discrepancy between the earlier preview and the review. It should be entertaining.😏

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@Pedro said:

I look forward to the discrepancy between the earlier preview and the review. It should be entertaining.😏

a common thing now sadly.

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Dreamcastguy is getting pathetic at this point.

This coming from a person that used to be subscribed and watched regularly.

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@SolidGame_basic said:
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Dreamcastguy is getting pathetic at this point.

This coming from a person that used to be subscribed and watched regularly.

How does one sub to him? I don't get how someone can bitch about AJ, a guy that goes in depth in his game reviews, but also listen to this thing (not referring to you). I just don't get it.

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@navyguy21: Use to watch him regularly before as well but yeah he does seem very cringe these days as the kids would say. 😅

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#135 navyguy21
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@hardwenzen said:
@navyguy21 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
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Dreamcastguy is getting pathetic at this point.

This coming from a person that used to be subscribed and watched regularly.

How does one sub to him? I don't get how someone can bitch about AJ, a guy that goes in depth in his game reviews, but also listen to this thing (not referring to you). I just don't get it.

If you go through his earlier videos (like 4+ years), he used to do a lot of retro content and reviews. He was one of those rare people that collects retro stuff and actually entertaining when they talk about it. He was like Classic Game Rooms virgin nephew lol.

Now, he just engaged in fanboy clickbait and doesn't bother to do research , or care that his arguments are based on flimsy fanboy logic. No self awareness at all. He praised FF16 that dropped to 720p and still couldn't maintain 60, but somehow Hellblade 2 30fps is an L? Such a clown

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@navyguy21 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@navyguy21 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
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Dreamcastguy is getting pathetic at this point.

This coming from a person that used to be subscribed and watched regularly.

How does one sub to him? I don't get how someone can bitch about AJ, a guy that goes in depth in his game reviews, but also listen to this thing (not referring to you). I just don't get it.

If you go through his earlier videos (like 4+ years), he used to do a lot of retro content and reviews. He was one of those rare people that collects retro stuff and actually entertaining when they talk about it. He was like Classic Game Rooms virgin nephew lol.

Now, he just engaged in fanboy clickbait and doesn't bother to do research , or care that his arguments are based on flimsy fanboy logic. No self awareness at all. He praised FF16 that dropped to 720p and still couldn't maintain 60, but somehow Hellblade 2 30fps is an L? Such a clown

I do recall seeing his retro stuff, but since i am not into retro, i never thought of anything.

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@navyguy21: I like some of Dreamcastguys opinions or reviews. Like his reviews are out quick and still manage to reflect what most are thinking.

But yeah I can't take him serious with those clickbait 'worst ever' titles and his overall fanboyish behaviour.

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XSX peasants have to suffer yet another 30 fps release :( all their games are 30 fps.

Lucky for me, I will be playing this game day 1 on GamePass (Thank you Phil) in glorious 4K/120 fps.

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#139  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@kvallyx: It's a shame you're an xbox fanboy and this is a walking simulator cinematic Sony game, so you are not allowed to enjoy this game.

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@Mozelleple112 said:

XSX peasants have to suffer yet another 30 fps release :( all their games are 30 fps.

Lucky for me, I will be playing this game day 1 on GamePass (Thank you Phil) in glorious 4K/120 fps.

I think you mean 60fps with frame gen 🤭

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#141 R4gn4r0k
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@firedrakes said:
@Pedro said:

I look forward to the discrepancy between the earlier preview and the review. It should be entertaining.😏

a common thing now sadly.

I concur. Previews being overly positive has been a common thing for so long now. For all we know they show the best part of a game and the rest of the game is just dull as dishwater, we have no way of knowing.

I still remember Far Cry 6 previews being overly positive, and then I tried that game and it was unplayable, only became playable through a ton of modding and tweaking making it closer to previous Far Cry entries.

At the same time, the few instances where previews have been negative (Skull & Bones, SuSquad) is something publishers will look at and probably take the wrong lessons from so it doesn't happen anymore (being more restrictive what gets shown, who gets access, and what gets talked about).

A sad trend indeed.

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#142 pmanden
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I disliked the first game, but since I have Gamepass, I will at least give the new game a try. Maybe play it for a few days, marvel at the graphics and then delete it. 30 fps don't bother me.

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@R4gn4r0k: To be fair I expect the XSX version will be equal to native 1440p (FSR1 injected / reconstructed / upscaled to "4K")

While I expect a 4090 to do around 4K DLAA @ 60 fps (which is quite a bit better than native 4K). alternatively DLSS2-Q @ 90 fps or so.

If the game does support DLSS3, there's no way the 4090 aint doing 4K/120 B)

I doubt they are going to path trace this game like CP2077, AW2, and those RTX games. in which case you can only hope for 70-80 fps at best lol.

In any case the game is super slow paced and cinematic and meant to be played with controller. so 70 fps should be fine but 90-100fps is still preferred. sub-60 is a no no in any game.

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@R4gn4r0k: What mods did you use for FC6?


FC6 is now on Gamepass. I played it for 3-4 hours and while it is generic Ubisoft trash... it isn't too bad. Curious to know what mods I should get.

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#145 R4gn4r0k
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@R4gn4r0k: What mods did you use for FC6?

FC6 is now on Gamepass. I played it for 3-4 hours and while it is generic Ubisoft trash... it isn't too bad. Curious to know what mods I should get.

Haha, I used a ton of mods.

There is the libertad mod, which is highly recommended and your first place to go. It's a collection of mods, so you can pick and match.

But on top of that I used:

  • Barefoot mod
  • Stratosphere mod (lets you fall and dive from the stratosphere)
  • Weapon rebalance
  • Removing useless effects
  • Removing weapon DOF, ugly vignette, chromatic aberration
  • Reworked weapon zoom

Overall with all the mods I used I felt it was a 8/10, the horses were a nice addition. All these mods can be found on Nexus by the way, and usually on Nexus I just sort it on "top unique downloads" to see what people are using :)

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@pmanden said:

I disliked the first game, but since I have Gamepass, I will at least give the new game a try. Maybe play it for a few days, marvel at the graphics and then delete it. 30 fps don't bother me.

Exacta mundo

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@R4gn4r0k: Ok. Barefoot mod? gonna have to elaborate on that one homie.

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#148  Edited By BassMan  Online
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@navyguy21 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@navyguy21 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
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Dreamcastguy is getting pathetic at this point.

This coming from a person that used to be subscribed and watched regularly.

How does one sub to him? I don't get how someone can bitch about AJ, a guy that goes in depth in his game reviews, but also listen to this thing (not referring to you). I just don't get it.

If you go through his earlier videos (like 4+ years), he used to do a lot of retro content and reviews. He was one of those rare people that collects retro stuff and actually entertaining when they talk about it. He was like Classic Game Rooms virgin nephew lol.

Now, he just engaged in fanboy clickbait and doesn't bother to do research , or care that his arguments are based on flimsy fanboy logic. No self awareness at all. He praised FF16 that dropped to 720p and still couldn't maintain 60, but somehow Hellblade 2 30fps is an L? Such a clown

Of course he is a clown. He is a console gamer who is complaining about frame rate. How are we supposed to take any of these clowns seriously unless they are PC gamers? If you truly care about the hobby and quality, you play on PC. Everything else just isn't good enough. At least AJ plays on PC.

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#149 R4gn4r0k
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@R4gn4r0k: To be fair I expect the XSX version will be equal to native 1440p (FSR1 injected / reconstructed / upscaled to "4K")

While I expect a 4090 to do around 4K DLAA @ 60 fps (which is quite a bit better than native 4K). alternatively DLSS2-Q @ 90 fps or so.

If the game does support DLSS3, there's no way the 4090 aint doing 4K/120 B)

I doubt they are going to path trace this game like CP2077, AW2, and those RTX games. in which case you can only hope for 70-80 fps at best lol.

In any case the game is super slow paced and cinematic and meant to be played with controller. so 70 fps should be fine but 90-100fps is still preferred. sub-60 is a no no in any game.

Yup, there'll be no benefit from playing with KB/M. As for the technologies and performance we can expect:

The 3080 is about twice as strong as a 1080ti, and the 4090 is about twice as strong as a 3080, give or take.

But games really don't get optimized like that. Like you can see a 2 times framerate increase in some games, not in every game.

UE 5 is also a special beast:

It uses ray tracing for all of its lighting, but it is a software based kind. So it doesn't make use of any of your GPU Ray tracing cores.

I have to say the lighting looks spectacular in Aveum, and it allows the developers to skip a few steps that traditional lighting requires.

But Robocop both looks and runs great, and there are a lot of artifcating there. In fact I would say the reflections looks traight up bad. They look smeared and very fizzled. I don't like it and I far prefer screen space or planar reflections. Heck GTA V From 11 years (!!) ago has way better looking reflections.

So yeah UE 5 is a special beast, it can look a gen ahead and it can look quite disappointing at the same time. And it's also very heavy to run. Look at some UE 5 performance reports on DSOGaming, even the 4090 is struggling to run it at 4K.

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#150 R4gn4r0k
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@R4gn4r0k: Ok. Barefoot mod? gonna have to elaborate on that one homie.

Yeah there is some crazy mod that turns your Danny and every woman in the game barefeet.