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#151 nintendoboy16
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I haven't followed this series in years:

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#152  Edited By Chozofication
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Gawd, this new Sony oled is insane. It’s like I’m playing every game for the first time again.

Now to start astral chain.

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#153 jg4xchamp
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@ghosts4ever said:

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Champ,

watch this. how is this a movie game in any sense?

It took 3 and a half minutes before the player did anything. After that you drove for a bit and barely do anything, then you get to shoot at something from the car, no real depth to any of it. It took until 7:25 to get to the core mechanic of the actual game, the enemy who clearly flanked angelo couldn't shoot over a fucking bar like a putz and missed shots.

Because the shooting n moving n overall combat in Mafia is somehow even more shallow than a cover shooter.

I'd continue, but I'd be wasting effort explaining the point. Yeah it's every bit the movie game you bitch about with other movie games. Primitive at the movie part maybe, but it is every bit devoid of depth as the games you pretend to bitch about. @ me when you play a real video game, any lazy counter point you post is going to be promptly responded with a "STFU"

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@jg4xchamp said:

It took 3 and a half minutes before the player did anything. After that you drove for a bit and barely do anything, then you get to shoot at something from the car, no real depth to any of it. It took until 7:25 to get to the core mechanic of the actual game, the enemy who clearly flanked angelo couldn't shoot over a fucking bar like a putz and missed shots.

of course game is set in sandbox location so you were driving a car. there was nothing like Mafia in past that a linear game with sandbox design set in big city. GTA3 was just pure open world game that is parody of real life. so yes you are doing alot, driving throw the doc as story progress.

@jg4xchamp said:

Because the shooting n moving n overall combat in Mafia is somehow even more shallow than a cover shooter.

It is. you have recoil, there is no regen health, game require patience and crouch behind object to shoot enemies. its not a fast paced shooter niether its cover based one. it appears to be realistic and kinda tactical.

@jg4xchamp said:

I'd continue, but I'd be wasting effort explaining the point. Yeah it's every bit the movie game you bitch about with other movie games. Primitive at the movie part maybe, but it is every bit devoid of depth as the games you pretend to bitch about. @ me when you play a real video game, any lazy counter point you post is going to be promptly responded with a "STFU"

If it was movie game. there would be more cutscene interruption, there would be QTE, there would be more and more scripted sequence like tomb raider and uncharted but the fact is game require strategy in every mission.

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#155 jg4xchamp
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@ghosts4ever said:

It is.

That's what I said, it is shallower than a cover shooter. Now STFU until you come back to me with a real video game.

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#156 Chutebox  Online
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@jg4xchamp: Why does ghost have a chub for you?

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#157 UItravioIence
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Week 2 in the bag and still no Nintendo Switch found. Almost had one but by the time I reached for my card someone else already scooped up the last one online.

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#158 Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp:

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This is champ game that is cover shooter where health regenerated.

Ghost game that is Mafia doesnot feature this kind of stuff. also have amazing story ie plus point. here story is "whats going on??"

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#159 ConanTheStoner  Online
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Damn, Ghosts posted a vid of an actual video game?

Progress.

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#160 ConanTheStoner  Online
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All jokes aside Ghosts.

Not sure how you can watch that vid, then watch a Mafia vid, and actually think you're coming out on top here. It's absurd.

That dude wasn't even flexing on the game and it still looks way the **** cooler.

It's like watching Street Fighter 1, then watching a vid of any modern fighter and thinking SF1 is the winner lol.

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#161 jg4xchamp
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@ghosts4ever said:

@jg4xchamp:

This is champ game that is cover shooter where health regenerated.

Ghost game that is Mafia doesnot feature this kind of stuff. also have amazing story ie plus point. here story is "whats going on??"

Regenerating health is a perfectly fine thing to have in your system when you want to create a more aggressive action title and are going to use enemies that largely use hit scan weapons. It's why Mafia has to be played as those slow plodding shooter, because Ghost games don't give the player options to do anything fun, but play in the most brain dead way possible.

As you can see that player much like you can't do anything fun, because he is learning the systems and is going to stick to his safety net the cover shooter. But Vanquish on top of having multiple difficulties also has a grading system, to encourage players to get out of their safety net.

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As you can see, Champ game, unlike ghost games, allow for better players to manipulate said mechanics to play far more aggressively n stylishly on enemies in a way that Ghost and frankly boring ass cup games never let you, because they prefer to not actually let the player have options.

Once again another L for ghost, further proof that Doom Eternal is a Champ game, and say it loud, say it proud with me brothers n sisters. Can I get an amen and a stfu Ghost!

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#162 jg4xchamp
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@Chutebox said:

@jg4xchamp: Why does ghost have a chub for you?

Same reason that stripper puts in that extra bit of work when she's performing for a much older gentlemen, some people just trying to get Daddy's love.

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#164  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp said:

Regenerating health is a perfectly fine thing-

No its never a fine thing. Health regen and cover system are 2 of worst mechanics introduce during last decade. im glad many games going away from Health regen because there was a time when ever game used to had regen health.

also champ, why do you like COD4? the game that ruined FPS genre?

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#165 DaVillain  Moderator
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I'm rewatching Avatar: The Last Airbender on Netflix and I gotta say, this cartoon series has aged well, its like its still brand new. Dave Filoni needs to come back to this series but he's too busy with Star Wars at this moment.

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I guess the gun control debate is all but dead now

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@pinkribbonscars said:

I guess the gun control debate is all but dead now

pinky, we rather not discuss politics here.

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#168 jg4xchamp
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@ghosts4ever said:

its nev

stfu

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#169 jg4xchamp
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@ghosts4ever said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Regenerating health is a perfectly fine thing-

also champ, why do you like COD4? the game that ruined FPS genre?

Haven't replayed COD4's campaign since 07, haven't touched the multiplayer since 08ish? They've rereleased that game and effectively remade that game? I have no idea what the new modern warfare counts as.

So kind of confused at the assumption I like CoD4.

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#170 DaVillain  Moderator
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Regenerating health is okay in my books and it doesn't ruin the game for me. You either have it or you don't.

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#171 ConanTheStoner  Online
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Yeah, just another bad take from Ghosts. Can't spare a modicum of thought for how one element of a game feeds into the greater whole.

Analytic skills = 0

Not only do you see this in his gaming opinions, it even reflects in the type of games he enjoys. Problem solving and decision making = no thanks.

Parents definitely should have bought him this one.

Shit, probably still should, better late than never.

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#172 Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Regenerating health is a perfectly fine thing-

also champ, why do you like COD4? the game that ruined FPS genre?

Haven't replayed COD4's campaign since 07, haven't touched the multiplayer since 08ish? They've rereleased that game and effectively remade that game? I have no idea what the new modern warfare counts as.

So kind of confused at the assumption I like CoD4.

actually you once said you like COD1 and 4 only in series thats why i asked champ.

@ConanTheStoner said:

Yeah, just another bad take from Ghosts. Can't spare a modicum of thought for how one element of a game feeds into the greater whole.

Analytic skills = 0

Not only do you see this in his gaming opinions, it even reflects in the type of games he enjoys. Problem solving and decision making = no thanks.

Parents definitely should have bought him this one.

Shit, probably still should, better late than never.

I have done Masters in Human resource management my friend so dont tell me about problem solving and decision making skills.

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#173  Edited By ConanTheStoner  Online
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@ghosts4ever said:

I have done Masters in Human resource management my friend

Yikes.

An indictment on your countries education system my friend.

Realistically I know plenty of idiots with degrees tho, doesn't mean shit.

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#174 jg4xchamp
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@ghosts4ever said:

actually you once said you like COD1 and 4 only in series thats why i asked champ.

Relative to the rest of the series, yeah 100%.

but I'm not fond of it beyond like meh its dumb fun and it has its moments. Never felt the need for a replay.

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#175 jg4xchamp
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Any idiot can be HR, so I think it should still be against him given the degree.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@ghosts4ever said:

actually you once said you like COD1 and 4 only in series thats why i asked champ.

Relative to the rest of the series, yeah 100%.

but I'm not fond of it beyond like meh its dumb fun and it has its moments. Never felt the need for a replay.

COD4 was among most overrated game of all time. barely FPS. ruined FPS genre. short and scripted that many clones follow it.

also in COD4 the american campaign fighting in brown middle east was most generic theme in gaming.

but then again i thought MW2 was just a better version of COD4 despite it was also just dumb on rail shooter.

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#177  Edited By ConanTheStoner  Online
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Funny thing is, CoD4 > Mafia.

Imagine Ghosts in a HR position.

"Hello friend, looking over paper you seem very qualify. Unfortunately you are woman, better luck next time."

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#178 Ghosts4ever
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Funny thing is, CoD4 > Mafia.

sure if you like scripted 3 hour do nothing. even a one Mafia mission offer more than entire COD4.

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#179 ConanTheStoner  Online
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@ghosts4ever said:

sure if you like scripted 3 hour do nothing.

Oh I don't. But I also don't like playing a tps that feels like an older Hitman game minus the actual fun stealth shit.

It's like playing Silent Assassin as a shooter, but with some bum ass driving between encounters. Gross.

CoD4 campaign better. CoD4 multiplayer way better.

Not to be mistaken for me liking it.

@ghosts4ever said:

even a one Mafia mission offer more than entire COD4.

One segment from an actual good game offers more than Mafia series in its entirety.

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#180 Ghosts4ever
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@ghosts4ever said:

sure if you like scripted 3 hour do nothing.

Oh I don't. But I also don't like playing a tps that feels like an older Hitman game minus the actual fun stealth shit.

It's like playing Silent Assassin as a shooter, but with some bum ass driving between encounters. Gross.

CoD4 campaign better. CoD4 multiplayer way better.

Not to be mistaken for me liking it.

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even a one Mafia mission offer more than entire COD4.

One segment from an actual good game offers more than Mafia series in its entirety.

COD4 was responsible of dumbing down FPS (actually it was MOH allied assault first). it was not until Doom save FPS games once again. it was mainstream game that is overpraised by mainstream critics.

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@ghosts4ever said:

COD4 was responsible of dumbing down FPS (actually it was MOH allied assault first). it was not until Doom save FPS games once again. it was mainstream game that is overpraised by mainstream critics.

Neat.

Has nothing to do with anything.

I'm not in here cheering for CoD4. I just find it funny that you're once again shitting on a game that's better than the game you're shilling.

As far as arguing a games quality goes, can't say I give a shit about external factors. CoD4's influence, ratings, praise, etc. doesn't mean shit.

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@jg4xchamp: Champ, what do you think of song segments in bollywood movies? do you think they break the pace? or useless time filler?

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#183  Edited By ConanTheStoner  Online
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Ghosts my friend.

Just because Cup left for cigarettes and never came back. Doesn't mean Champ will adopt you in his absence.

Sorry friend.

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#184 clone01
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Ghosts my friend.

Just because Cup left for cigarettes and never came back. Doesn't mean Champ will adopt you in his absence.

Sorry friend.

lol

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#185 deactivated-5f381b7b4ba30
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Why is Ghost spamming Mafia screenshots in every single thread?

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#186 speedfreak48t5p
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Ghosts wishes he was a fraction of the gamer that champ is. He‘s jelly of champ’s greatness.

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@pinkribbonscars said:

Why is Ghost spamming Mafia screenshots in every single thread?

The only reasonable answer, is that it's "Ghost." He has a chubby for Champ and Mafia.

Also, I had a chuckle at your avatar.

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I do not know why would GameSpot support a controversial organization like Black Lives Matter, but I feel that gaming sites and businesses should stay out of partisan issues. I do not go to gaming sites and businesses to hear or even be lectured on what issues they want to force on the public.

I saw this under "All Games News" which has nothing to do with gaming.

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@onesiphorus said:

I do not know why would GameSpot support a controversial organization like Black Lives Matter, but I feel that gaming sites and businesses should stay out of partisan issues. I do not go to gaming sites and businesses to hear or even be lectured on what issues they want to force on the public.

I saw this under "All Games News" which has nothing to do with gaming.

No offense but why do you always complain about stuff like this? Let GS do whatever and if you don't wanna see stuff like BLM or whatever, do not click on it. Just ignore it and move to something relevant.

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@onesiphorus: Black Lives Matter isn’t an “organization”, it’s an ideology. An ideology that is about black people being needlessly killed at the hands of police officers. GameSpot has long since covered topics outside of gaming and become more of an entertainment place. This is an extremely important issue that affects everyone and everything so unsurprisingly most any place, including GameSpot, will cover it and/or support it. This really isn’t or shouldn’t be a partisan issue because nobody should be needlessly killed by a police officer. I would hope that something like that would be unanimously supported.

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#191  Edited By deactivated-5f381b7b4ba30
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You can protest police brutality without supporting a black supremecy movement like Black Lives Matter. The gaming industry supporting a literal insurrection that's resulted in the death and destruction of innocents peoples lives. "Cities can we rebult"- Sony. Tell that to the children who were trapped inside their burning home after a Black Lives Matter supporter threw a molotov cocktail through their window. Fucking clown world, and **** everyone who supports these riots.

Anywho, here's Antifa asking someone to call 911 after getting bashed up by suburban militia

https://twitter.com/awakened_q/status/1268029713940975616

lol

Sorry I know you don't want politics here this will be the last time I post (hell you can ban me if you want) I just need to vent

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@ghosts4ever said:

@jg4xchamp: Champ, what do you think of song segments in bollywood movies? do you think they break the pace? or useless time filler?

I don't watch Bollywood movies. Prefer straight up musicals compared to how Bollywood does it tho.

Additionally #BlackLivesMatter the rest of you rats are welcome to crawl back to the sewer you came from.

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#193 Ghosts4ever
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@pinkribbonscars said:

@Archangel3371

You can protest police brutality without supporting a black supremecy movement like Black Lives Matter. The gaming industry supporting a literal insurrection that's resulted in the death and destruction of innocents peoples lives. "Cities can we rebult"- Sony. Tell that to the children who were trapped inside their burning home after a Black Lives Matter supporter threw a molotov cocktail through their window. Fucking clown world, and **** everyone who supports these riots.

Anywho, here's Antifa asking someone to call 911 after getting bashed up by suburban militia

https://twitter.com/awakened_q/status/1268029713940975616

lol

Sorry I know you don't want politics here this will be the last time I post (hell you can ban me if you want) I just need to vent

come on pinky, i dont want anyone to ban you but please keep politics out of it and go to political gamers board.

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#194  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Archangel3371 said:

@onesiphorus: Black Lives Matter isn’t an “organization”, it’s an ideology. An ideology that is about black people being needlessly killed at the hands of police officers. GameSpot has long since covered topics outside of gaming and become more of an entertainment place. This is an extremely important issue that affects everyone and everything so unsurprisingly most any place, including GameSpot, will cover it and/or support it. This really isn’t or shouldn’t be a partisan issue because nobody should be needlessly killed by a police officer. I would hope that something like that would be unanimously supported.

Just in case anyone is unaware: The phrase "Black Lives Matter" is not actually saying only black lives matter, it's saying black lives matter too. Not sure why they don't include that in the actual slogan. Maybe less catchy or something. Definitely causes confusion for the uninformed.

Edit: I don't think it matters if anyone agrees or not what's happening in the real world. It's far more important to try and figure out why it's happening, and not just subscribe to the dominant narrative. Looting and destroying private property is wrong. Lynch mob violence against random bystanders is wrong. Police brutality and racism is wrong too, and happens far more often.

Would George Floyd's murder have ignited all this if there was no Covid-19? I don't think so. I hope for the best and most positive outcome but I'm too concerned with what I'm doing with my very limited time to show that I care. Is it wrong? Sure, but when all this is over I still have to make sure I'm taken care of and my family as well. There's a reason why Gamespot is covering this and that's okay.

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#195 ConanTheStoner  Online
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It's something that should go without saying Dav.

And while I'm sure there's someone out there who is actually fucking stupid enough to be confused about it, I'd wager most are just being deliberately obtuse. Especially so at this point.

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#196  Edited By Chutebox  Online
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@ConanTheStoner said:

It's something that should go without saying Dav.

And while I'm sure there's someone out there who is actually fucking stupid enough to be confused about it, I'd wager most are just being deliberately obtuse. Especially so at this point.

It's not the slogan, it's how some of them acted and what was said (not all), or the cops getting shot back in Dallas way back when (people affiliated that with BLM). It's like the cop shit going on now, a few ruin it for the majority.

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Currently catching up on Agadmators Lindores Abby chess coverage (Nakamura vs Dubov)

tfw no cutie chess GM to teach you how to play

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#198  Edited By Chozofication
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@jg4xchamp: Quite insufferable to call someone a rat over a different yet peaceful outlook.

All lives matter, but gratz on the extra division.

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@chozofication said:

Gawd, this new Sony oled is insane. It’s like I’m playing every game for the first time again.

Now to start astral chain.

If you like Sci-Fi I recommend re/watching movies and tv show's set in space... OLED brings those to a whole new level.

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#200  Edited By deactivated-5f381b7b4ba30
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Man, why are 80s/90s aethestics so much cooler than modern day aesthetics?

Looks like a scene from Hardboiled

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