@appariti0n: they are effed depending on who you ask. Obv not to the degree on how Intel effed amd in 2006 and onwards. It seems like amd is able to make a chip that finally goes toe to toe with cheaper price, better yield, sustain a profit margin per chip even at that, and beat them to 7nm punch. While Intel has no answer this year. Looks like Intel will have to finally work on their r&d heavily for once and again like the core2 and sandybridge that used to wreak havoc to amd. Assuming the numbers are real and that they broke nda than that means the 6 core already beats an 8 core Zen+ while kissing 8 core Intel's perf., that's pretty darn good.
Not much of a drinker. Hate ipa, enjoy hard a or mixed drink sometimes, call me a sissy. Coke is always great, I remember when I was freezing in northern china I still asked for a coke on ice. I think I'm accustomed to that living in socal all my life.
Definitely more of a foodie though. Any ethnic food is good be it mexican, thai, korean etc etc., fusion is a big hit or a big miss for me. Nothing beats starving on the weekends then you get together with your amigos for a grand meal.
I'm curious now how good is the ipc increase in real life benchmarks ran by reviewers and average joes like us. The leap was always going to be bigger going from zen to zen+, just how much now I have to see. I'm also curious if the chip turns out to be a good overclocker too since they are going from glofo to tsmc on top of going to 7nm. So it may only boost to 4.6GHz, but it doesn't mean thats the wall either or maybe not.
Now as for the 16c/32t, this draws back to my worrying suspicion if the x470/b450 and older boards can even handle the extra load. I can see multiple possible scenarios, they don't release it, release it but it'll be lower clocked and less headroom to fit within the tdp sort of like how threadripper are with their lineup, or pull a fast one making it only work with x570 boards. I think amd is smart for not saying anything while leaving it wild in the showroom, this keeps us on our toes without hurting the sales of the near release 3000 chips. They probably saving it to pit against intel too and this gives them time to iron the process out.
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