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#1  Edited By foxhound_fox
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@n64dd said:

@foxhound_fox: Stick to driving trucks and ranting about your communist insane viewpoints. You comparing antifa to the troops that stormed Normany is one the of the dumbest things i’ve ever read. Go to the middle east or one of the african country hell holes that have real issues

You call people facists but support laws against freedom of speech.

God some of the people on these boards are just ignorant.

Ah, finally the Trumpers come out of hiding.

Dude... the Americans, Brits and Canadians that stormed the Normandy beaches were all Antifa. That's the point. Antifa stands for "anti-fascism", as they were all fighting against fascism.

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And wow, not that I'm surprised, but that's really racist and American-exceptionalist to call Middle East/African countries "hell holes". There's lots of beautiful countries in those places, with lots of beautiful people that have been suffering under British, French, Belgian, Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish and American colonialism for the last 500 years.

Communism is the ideology of empathy, equality and solidarity, and it's very easily corrupted by authoritarianism and capitalism, especially when a communist society needs to interact on the world stage on the international trade market. And when you have a massive world power like the United States defending it's capital interests by initiating anti-socialist coup d'etats, imposing economic sanctions and deposing progressive governments at all corners of the globe, it's difficult for it to establish itself.

Nazi Germany learned fascism from the United States, and was brought to power through help from American capital investors (famously Prescott Bush). They mastered suppression of the working class and true freedom of thought very early on, and have spent the last 75 years building up a very clever system of political propaganda that makes American voters believe there is tangible differences between the two major political parties, when in reality, they both are literally the same group of corporate-sponsored, highly-corruptible, career-politicians that couldn't care less about the constituents they represent. They are merely agents of capital.

People talk about the "cult of personality" around leaders like Mao or Stalin, and I just look at people like Obama and Trump and see exactly the same issues, except instead of unifying all people under one leader against one cause, they create this "us versus them" sentiment and thus massive amounts of divisiveness among the working class, making neighbours enemies rather than friends/allies, so as they can maintain their stranglehold on the wealth they create.

But I didn't write this out for your benefit, you are so fast asleep in the "American Dream" that you won't even understand half of what I said, but for anyone who comes along to this thread and has a chance of waking up.

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Edit: And "laws against freedom of speech", that's so misleading, since anyone with a working brain would support restrictions on racist, discriminatory, libelous or any sort of hateful speech.

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#2  Edited By foxhound_fox
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@SOedipus said:

For the second time, I'm not claiming that they are a terrorist group. And a group doesn't need a leader, and for all we know they do have one or a few, we just don't them. Again, I'll go with multiple corporate-owned media outlets, that state they are a group(s), over you.

Antifa super-soldiers landing on beach in France c. 1944:

Antifa is not a group. It is not organized. It is not a terrorist organization.

Antifa is an ideology that means "against fascism". If you are against fascism, you are Antifa. A large contingent of like-minded anti-fascists stood in solidarity together against a colossal, excessively violent fascist threat over 75 years ago and won.

But, it seems like the leaders of part of those who did win ended up inheriting the same fascist system they fought against and it's finally rearing it's ugly head.

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@SOedipus said:

I am saying that I am against fascism. You are ignoring that because I am claiming that Antifa is an extreme group. I'll take multiple sources like that over some random dude over the internet, especially someone being dishonest and claiming that I'm a fascist....

News outlets are not sources on what makes a "terrorist group". I asked for proof that Antifa was a group, and you have failed to provide it. Who's their leader? Where do they organize?

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@SOedipus said:

I am not fascist. But I'm not Antifa. So that means I'm pro-fascist? That's cool fox.

ADL: "a loose collection of groups, networks and individuals who believe in active, aggressive opposition to far right-wing movements."

CNN: "The term is used to define a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left -- often the far left -- but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform. The group doesn't have an official leader or headquarters, although groups in certain states hold regular meetings."

NYTimes: "Its followers acknowledge that the movement is secretive, has no official leaders and is organized into autonomous local cells."

CTV: "The group is known for causing damage to property during protests."

It sounds like a group to me. Like I said, not that well organized.

Not sure why you brought up the KKK, but yeah they're a disgusting group. Are they relevant now though? Is the group getting bigger and more powerful? Are they committing terrorist acts? Seriously, I don't know. I'm aware of their history and how they murdered blacks and other minorities. But I had the sense the KKK is fading away and they're highly criticized by the masses.

A bunch of corporate-owned media outlets claim it's a group and you think that amounts to proof?

If you aren't Antifa, you are a fascist. It's pretty straight forward. Why is it so hard to admit? Wouldn't you want to be wholly against fascism?

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@SOedipus said:

They're punching people for more mundane things than that and you know it. And if they're not a group than why the name, the symbol, organizing events and arming themselves?

I am anti-fascist. I am NOT Antifa. They're a group whether you like it or not. They're not an organized group, I'll give you that.

Do I? Can you prove it?

No, it shouldn't need to be repeated to you. Antifa is Anti-fascism. It isn't a group, cabal or organization. They don't have a leader and aren't getting funding because it's an ideology. If you don't support Antifa, that makes you pro-fascism. Period.

You can't be anti-antifa, because that's a double negative.

Just because the orange guy said they are a "terrorist organization" doesn't make them one. Do you know who ISN'T listed as a terrorist organization by the US? The mother fucking Ku Klux Klan.

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@SOedipus said:

@foxhound_fox: While those two groups are not the same, or even close, for obvious reasons, it's clear that Antifa isn't something an average person want to admit being part of. Considering Antifa's actions in the past, assaulting people they don't agree with, for example. It's ironic that they claim to be anti-fascists but they share some similarities to fascist ideals, such as suppressing freedom of speech....

So punching someone who calls for the extermination of all non-white people's is a bad thing? You think giving fascist racists a platform to speak is a noteworthy goal? That liberal apathy is why they've continued to exist to this day and grown in power and infiltrated police organizations around the world (and especially in the US).

Antifa is not a "group" or "organization". It merely stands for anti-fascism. Anyone can be Antifa so long as they agree that it's okay to

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@Xabiss said:

Have a nice day. I don't support terrorist organizations thanks or groups that support violence.

If Antifa is a terrorist organization, then you should be able to list their recorded terrorist attacks, no?

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@Xabiss said:

Dude grow up you have no idea. Just stop you are looking very foolish. Check your American privilege at the door please. Think I found one of those terrible Antifa members.

I'm Canadian friend, and definitely not proud of being one.

And Antifa? Of course I'm Antifa. Are you not? Antifa is short for anti-fascism. So you say you're pro-fascism?

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@Xabiss said:

Seriously some of you people really need to leave the country and go to Iran, Somalia, Libya, Afghanistan, just to name a few to see what it really like. Seriously people who think like this are part of the problem! We are no where near a damn dictatorship Jesus!

Just because you don't understand how a dictatorship works, or how fascism has been on the rise in the west in the last 20 years doesn't make it untrue. Fascism is how capitalism suppresses the working class back into a state of submission to the ruling class, so they'll continue producing wealth for them without fighting back.

And what's central to a fascist regime? A massive, militarized police force that is used to physically and psychologically intimidate the citizenry.

How many things on this list has the US not checked off?

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@pimphand_gamer said:
@drunk_pi said:

Hey now, they have a difficult job. Do you know how hard it is to to punch, kick, and kill people who aren't doing no harm?

Is it as easy as a citizen not putting themselves into obvious situations?