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#51 lamprey263
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I don't know when they are going to make substantial changes to the game, they seem to be committing a lot of resources still to getting a MCC on PC.

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#52 NathanDrakeSwag
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I wonder if they will at least cancel the OG Xbone version now.

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#53 BenjaminBanklin
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@kazhirai said:

So because it happened at a slightly later time while still being in the heat of the pandemic it's somehow different?

You're an idiot.

The game was done, asshole. COVID didn't stop it from being completed.

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@ProtossRushX said:
@MonsieurX said:
@ProtossRushX said:

So no exclusive for x-series at launch then why buy that thing?

Wasn't exclusive

Yeah but why play on x-series when ps5 is gonna have exclusives like spiderman 2 and the same multiplats

its like picking up ice cream at the store and only getting 1 scoop when i get 3 scoops with ps5 its just absurd. X-series better be cheaper or something to justify itself next to the ps5 exclusive game library at launch.

Just what do you think PS5 is getting at launch? 'Cos I hope you know it's not Spiderman 2....

I mean, I just don't want you to get dissapointed.

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Important Launch Titles for systems

NES - Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Excitebike

SNES - Super Mario World, F-Zero, PilotWings

N64 - Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Pilot Wings 64

Xbox - Halo, Dead or Alive 3

Wii - Zelda Twilight Princess

Xbox 360 - Dead Rising 3, Ryse Son of Rome

Switch - Zelda Breath of the Wild

X-Series X - Nothing.... cross-gen multiplats that'll look like shit. This x-series x isn't ready for next-gen this needs more time in the oven the Xbox one x just came out like a year ago why are we doing another one? FOR WHAT GAME?

I'M NOT buying this day one theirs no reason to. Get a Killer App Microsoft or get beatdown again by other systems.

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It looked really bad to begin with ... so i'm glad they will take their time to try to improve it as much as they can.

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@lamprey263 said:

I don't know when they are going to make substantial changes to the game, they seem to be committing a lot of resources still to getting a MCC on PC.

Halo MCC on PC is being made by Splash Damage while 343 is making infinite

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#58 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@fedor said:

@IMAHAPYHIPPO: Nintendo released AC and Origami King since Covid hit. They also held a Nintendo Direct and are rumored to have another this month.

Animal Crossing was finished by the time COVID became a problem, and I'm hoping the Direct rumors are true, but I'll believe it when I see it. The last rumored Direct ended up being an 8 minute third party video.

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@sealionact said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@MonsieurX said:
@ProtossRushX said:

So no exclusive for x-series at launch then why buy that thing?

Wasn't exclusive

Yeah but why play on x-series when ps5 is gonna have exclusives like spiderman 2 and the same multiplats

its like picking up ice cream at the store and only getting 1 scoop when i get 3 scoops with ps5 its just absurd. X-series better be cheaper or something to justify itself next to the ps5 exclusive game library at launch.

Just what do you think PS5 is getting at launch? 'Cos I hope you know it's not Spiderman 2....

I mean, I just don't want you to get dissapointed.

Spiderman - Miles Morales

GodFall

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@ProtossRushX said:

Important Launch Titles for systems

NES - Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Excitebike

SNES - Super Mario World, F-Zero, PilotWings

N64 - Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Pilot Wings 64

Xbox - Halo, Dead or Alive 3

Wii - Zelda Twilight Princess

Xbox 360 - Dead Rising 3, Ryse Son of Rome

Switch - Zelda Breath of the Wild

X-Series X - Nothing.... cross-gen multiplats that'll look like shit. This x-series x isn't ready for next-gen this needs more time in the oven the Xbox one x just came out like a year ago why are we doing another one? FOR WHAT GAME?

I'M NOT buying this day one theirs no reason to. Get a Killer App Microsoft or get beatdown again by other systems.

It's time for everyone to forget about XSX for a few years. Maybe in 3 or 4 years when Fable, Avowed, Outer Worlds 2 and Hellblade 2 start releasing it will be worth a look. Until then this thing is worthless.

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#61 SolidGame_basic
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Starting to remind me of Crackdown 3.

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#62 Fedor
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@IMAHAPYHIPPO said:
@fedor said:

@IMAHAPYHIPPO: Nintendo released AC and Origami King since Covid hit. They also held a Nintendo Direct and are rumored to have another this month.

Animal Crossing was finished by the time COVID became a problem, and I'm hoping the Direct rumors are true, but I'll believe it when I see it. The last rumored Direct ended up being an 8 minute third party video.

You said we haven't heard from them, we have. They also finally gave an update on SMT last Direct.

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#63 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@Ant_17 said:

@kazhirai: explay to me how grounded came out just fine, with no delay cause of covid?

Do you really need to have the difference between an indie-level, early access multiplayer game and a big-budget AAA title explained to you?

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#64 hardwenzen  Online
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This will hit their system sales bad. I wonder if the XSX is the next Mixer 🤗

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#65 Ant_17
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@IMAHAPYHIPPO: no, I was just using 1st party bone games to not be dismissed.

I can use another game,like assassin's creed, some Nintendo garbage or ghost of tsushima.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Important Launch Titles for systems

NES - Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Excitebike

SNES - Super Mario World, F-Zero, PilotWings

N64 - Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Pilot Wings 64

Xbox - Halo, Dead or Alive 3

Wii - Zelda Twilight Princess

Xbox 360 - Dead Rising 3, Ryse Son of Rome

Switch - Zelda Breath of the Wild

X-Series X - Nothing.... cross-gen multiplats that'll look like shit. This x-series x isn't ready for next-gen this needs more time in the oven the Xbox one x just came out like a year ago why are we doing another one? FOR WHAT GAME?

I'M NOT buying this day one theirs no reason to. Get a Killer App Microsoft or get beatdown again by other systems.

It's time for everyone to forget about XSX for a few years. Maybe in 3 or 4 years when Fable, Avowed, Outer Worlds 2 and Hellblade 2 start releasing it will be worth a look. Until then this thing is worthless.

your reading my mind dude, ill give it a few years or something for there studios to get a game out. I gotta get that spiderman and that was my fav open world game last gen with botw.

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#67 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@fedor said:
@IMAHAPYHIPPO said:
@fedor said:

@IMAHAPYHIPPO: Nintendo released AC and Origami King since Covid hit. They also held a Nintendo Direct and are rumored to have another this month.

Animal Crossing was finished by the time COVID became a problem, and I'm hoping the Direct rumors are true, but I'll believe it when I see it. The last rumored Direct ended up being an 8 minute third party video.

You said we haven't heard from them, we have. They also finally gave an update on SMT last Direct.

Well, first off, speaking in hyperbole clearly doesn't translate well on the internet. Of course, we've heard from Nintendo in some capacity over the course of the last four months. They announced Pikmin 3 for October, they released a Paper Mario game. But compared to every other big publisher, they've barely made a sound.

Word around town is that COVID ravaged their work flow harder than the other major publishers, and the lack of information coming from Nintendo certainly adds credibility to that rumor. But I'm hoping they actually have a big e3-replacement style Direct coming this month, as I'd love to get some Nintendo news. Having a Wii U port coming in one of their bigger holiday slots doesn't leave me with much optimism, however.

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#68 Phlop_Spencer
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@kazhirai said:
@Ant_17 said:

Lol, blaming covid. I don't see other devs having this issue. 343 must be anti mask.

There goes 1 year of the 10 year plan as well.

You couldn't be more full of shit if you tried.

Not even remotely comparable you moron LOL!

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#69 BenjaminBanklin
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Starting to remind me of Crackdown 3.

Yeah, even getting delayed a year, it'll still be lackluster. I have a feeling Phil's gonna change his mind and still try to force it out due to the negative reaction. Bad press makes the Xbox division do dumb shit.

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@ProtossRushX: dude you aren’t getting Spider-Man 2 at launch, you are getting an expansion to a PS4 game, that only is exclusive to ps5 because Sony had nothing else...

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Are any Xbox gamers who were getting the x-series with halo at launch switching to ps5 for spiderman or just skipping the launch entirely now.

No Halo seems pretty bad cuz thats a launch game many people would care about this could hurt sales.

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Like with any other game, release it when it feels ready to be released.

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@djoffer123 said:

@ProtossRushX: dude you aren’t getting Spider-Man 2 at launch, you are getting an expansion to a PS4 game, that only is exclusive to ps5 because Sony had nothing else...

dude your xbox is a worthless console LOL. And now without halo, it's somehow even more worthless.

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#74 Nonstop-Madness  Online
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This isn't very good news for Microsoft.

Halo was pretty much the only new game coming from Xbox Game Studios at launch and, their timed / platform exclusives look OK at best. They'll have to rely on multiplatforms games ... games in which Sony is spending $$$ on to get exclusive content.

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@ProtossRushX said:

Are any Xbox gamers who were getting the x-series with halo at launch switching to ps5 for spiderman or just skipping the launch entirely now.

No Halo seems pretty bad cuz thats a launch game many people would care about this could hurt sales.

No reason to get either console at launch other than not playing a completely gimped version of CP77. But then again any console version of the game will still be gimped compared to PC.

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#76 Phlop_Spencer
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But for real - 343i are incompetent developers and this only proves to me that MS are incompetent project managers. TLHBO lolololol

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#77 blamix
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I wonder what those hardcore lems gonna say abouth this. One of them was making a thread everyday on how great the Series X is. Lol..

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@djoffer123: Miles Morales is a full standalone game.

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@djoffer123 said:

@ProtossRushX: dude you aren’t getting Spider-Man 2 at launch, you are getting an expansion to a PS4 game, that only is exclusive to ps5 because Sony had nothing else...

Are you kidding me dude they showed off how fast there loading times are now with spiderman on PS5 there upgrading this game for ps5 with graphics and ssd tech, prolly some raytracing thrown in there going balls to the wall for spiderman dude.

That right there proves your wrong we know loading times are 5x faster now on spiderman what else there doing an throwing in there i dunno but ya ray tracing for sure prolly in there.

Ps4 won't be able to handle this game the same way thats why they moved on.

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@ProtossRushX said:

Are any Xbox gamers who were getting the x-series with halo at launch switching to ps5 for spiderman or just skipping the launch entirely now.

No Halo seems pretty bad cuz thats a launch game many people would care about this could hurt sales.

Imagine all the assholes paying $500+ dollars to play Ooblets and Grounded on XSX. 🤣🤣🤣

Microsoft's entire next gen strategy right now revolves around not getting outpriced by Sony, not AAA games. That is beyond fucking sad.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Are any Xbox gamers who were getting the x-series with halo at launch switching to ps5 for spiderman or just skipping the launch entirely now.

No Halo seems pretty bad cuz thats a launch game many people would care about this could hurt sales.

Imagine all the assholes paying $500+ dollars to play Ooblets and Grounded on XSX. 🤣🤣🤣

Microsoft's entire next gen strategy right now revolves around not getting outpriced by Sony, not AAA games. That is beyond fucking sad.

Correct. And the best part is even with how barren the next gen bone will be, its fans will be praising it high heavens and will continue to have faith that MS will deliver the goods in time.

”bu bu but new games take years and years to make!”

repeat ad nauseum for the next 5 years

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@ProtossRushX said:

Are any Xbox gamers who were getting the x-series with halo at launch switching to ps5 for spiderman or just skipping the launch entirely now.

No Halo seems pretty bad cuz thats a launch game many people would care about this could hurt sales.

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@phlop_spencer said:

Correct. And the best part is even with how barren the next gen bone will be, its fans will be praising it high heavens and will continue to have faith that MS will deliver the goods in time.

”bu bu but new games take years and years to make!”

repeat ad nauseum for the next 5 years

And all that talk of the "no gamer left behind" bullshit, watch the Xbox One version of Halo Infinite get cancelled due to this. 🤣🤣🤣

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This is definitely the greatest games lineup in Xbox history.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I wonder if they will at least cancel the OG Xbone version now.

That's an interesting point.

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#86  Edited By Sushiglutton
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Can’t remember that anything like this has. ever happened before. The launch title for a console completely missing the mark and the launch 😂.

MS’s entire first party conference was built around Halo. It was the first game they showed and the only game with a gameplay walkthrough. The incompetence at display is just embarrassing 🤦🏻‍♂️.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Important Launch Titles for systems

NES - Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Excitebike

SNES - Super Mario World, F-Zero, PilotWings

N64 - Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Pilot Wings 64

Xbox - Halo, Dead or Alive 3

Wii - Zelda Twilight Princess

Xbox 360 - Dead Rising 3, Ryse Son of Rome

Switch - Zelda Breath of the Wild

X-Series X - Nothing.... cross-gen multiplats that'll look like shit. This x-series x isn't ready for next-gen this needs more time in the oven the Xbox one x just came out like a year ago why are we doing another one? FOR WHAT GAME?

I'M NOT buying this day one theirs no reason to. Get a Killer App Microsoft or get beatdown again by other systems.

It's time for everyone to forget about XSX for a few years. Maybe in 3 or 4 years when Fable, Avowed, Outer Worlds 2 and Hellblade 2 start releasing it will be worth a look. Until then this thing is worthless.

Couldn't you say the same for ps5 about Spiderman 2, God of war 2, Bloodborne 2 etc which are further away than Fable, Avowed etc ?

Probably not.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

This is definitely the greatest games lineup in Xbox history.

They really need to stop using line for advertising on reddit, now that halo isn't going to be there its not the best lineup in history of xbox. The original xbox and 360 crap all over this one even the xb1.

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#89  Edited By Gifford38
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@ProtossRushX said:
@sealionact said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@MonsieurX said:

Wasn't exclusive

Yeah but why play on x-series when ps5 is gonna have exclusives like spiderman 2 and the same multiplats

its like picking up ice cream at the store and only getting 1 scoop when i get 3 scoops with ps5 its just absurd. X-series better be cheaper or something to justify itself next to the ps5 exclusive game library at launch.

Just what do you think PS5 is getting at launch? 'Cos I hope you know it's not Spiderman 2....

I mean, I just don't want you to get dissapointed.

Spiderman - Miles Morales

GodFall

plus we have games in the launch window. heck name one series x game that is coming in 2021 that is not on xbox one or even ps5?

just because hzd2 is not day one at least its in the launch window same with ratchet and clank and 2 big exclusives one at launch and one in late 2021 for sony first party. the ones that will be at the next show.

at launch ones i want are

godfall

kena bridge of spirits. on pc,ps4,ps5 not series x.

miles

one game they have not said yet.

grand 7

these alone makes my purchase worth it as well

plus ghost im saving for the ps5.

during 2021 hzd2, ratchet and clank, one big one they have not said yet. this is just the major ones from sony first party now add all the multiplat games in 2021.

rely on third party games looking a bit better will not save them when it launches.

again xbox gamers playing the waiting game for there series x games.

if hellblade 2 is a series x only game then again in 2022. no sereis x only games for the first 2 years from thre studios.

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@Sushiglutton said:

Can’t remember that anything like this has. ever happened before. The launch title for a console completely missing the mark and the launch 😂.

MS’s entire first party conference was built around Halo. It was the first game they showed and the only game with a gameplay walkthrough. The incompetence at display is just embarrassing 🤦🏻‍♂️.

Yeah, it could be that they were comfy with whereabouts they were with regards to the games looks and feel, and internet backlash made them take a step back. It really does suck, and is really embarrassing.

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#91 iambatman7986
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I have no problem with this. I would rather it get delayed than launch with issues. I'm sure there have been issues with the team considering we are in the middle of a pandemic. I just hope it is a good game when it launches.

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#92 Fedor
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@sealionact said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Important Launch Titles for systems

NES - Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Excitebike

SNES - Super Mario World, F-Zero, PilotWings

N64 - Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Pilot Wings 64

Xbox - Halo, Dead or Alive 3

Wii - Zelda Twilight Princess

Xbox 360 - Dead Rising 3, Ryse Son of Rome

Switch - Zelda Breath of the Wild

X-Series X - Nothing.... cross-gen multiplats that'll look like shit. This x-series x isn't ready for next-gen this needs more time in the oven the Xbox one x just came out like a year ago why are we doing another one? FOR WHAT GAME?

I'M NOT buying this day one theirs no reason to. Get a Killer App Microsoft or get beatdown again by other systems.

It's time for everyone to forget about XSX for a few years. Maybe in 3 or 4 years when Fable, Avowed, Outer Worlds 2 and Hellblade 2 start releasing it will be worth a look. Until then this thing is worthless.

Couldn't you say the same for ps5 about Spiderman 2, God of war 2, Bloodborne 2 etc which are further away than Fable, Avowed etc ?

Probably not.

Sony has other games that will be out sooner though, namely R&C and HZD2.

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#93 NathanDrakeSwag
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@sealionact said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Important Launch Titles for systems

NES - Mario Bros, Duck Hunt, Excitebike

SNES - Super Mario World, F-Zero, PilotWings

N64 - Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Pilot Wings 64

Xbox - Halo, Dead or Alive 3

Wii - Zelda Twilight Princess

Xbox 360 - Dead Rising 3, Ryse Son of Rome

Switch - Zelda Breath of the Wild

X-Series X - Nothing.... cross-gen multiplats that'll look like shit. This x-series x isn't ready for next-gen this needs more time in the oven the Xbox one x just came out like a year ago why are we doing another one? FOR WHAT GAME?

I'M NOT buying this day one theirs no reason to. Get a Killer App Microsoft or get beatdown again by other systems.

It's time for everyone to forget about XSX for a few years. Maybe in 3 or 4 years when Fable, Avowed, Outer Worlds 2 and Hellblade 2 start releasing it will be worth a look. Until then this thing is worthless.

Couldn't you say the same for ps5 about Spiderman 2, God of war 2, Bloodborne 2 etc which are further away than Fable, Avowed etc ?

Probably not.

Why are you pretending that Miles Morales, Horizon 2, Demons Souls, GT7 and Ratchet don't exist? That's a great first year lineup. Much better than the Xbone or PS4 had in their first years.

All Xbox has in store for the next year is an SJW visual novel and Battlefrogs. Just embarrassing.

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#94 SUD123456
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I laughed.

Right move though, given the PS2 era look.

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#95 BenjaminBanklin
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@sealionact said:

Couldn't you say the same for ps5 about Spiderman 2, God of war 2, Bloodborne 2 etc which are further away than Fable, Avowed etc ?

Probably not.

Sony's already got Ratchet and Clank, Gran Turismo, Demon's Souls Remake, Miles Morales, Horizon 2 and some other unannounced games around the corner. I doubt some of those games MS announced will even make it to market if they can't get Game Pass subs up... at full price.

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#96 Watch_My_6
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Incredibly embarrassing.

If they do not close the studio following this, I would be stunned.

Halo 4 - absolute trash

Halo 5 - ok game. Meh Halo game

Halo MCC - most broken game I've ever played. Took over a year to make it playable.

And now infinite can't even make it out in time even with an extensive dev cycle.

They should give Bungie a blank check and beg them to return.

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#97  Edited By Sushiglutton
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Sushiglutton said:

Can’t remember that anything like this has. ever happened before. The launch title for a console completely missing the mark and the launch 😂.

MS’s entire first party conference was built around Halo. It was the first game they showed and the only game with a gameplay walkthrough. The incompetence at display is just embarrassing 🤦🏻‍♂️.

Yeah, it could be that they were comfy with whereabouts they were with regards to the games looks and feel, and internet backlash made them take a step back. It really does suck, and is really embarrassing.

Yeah maybe you can get blind like that. It’s weird that they didn’t have some kind of test audience for such an important showing though. Someone looking at it from the outside.

I guess it’s easy to say from the sideline...

Maybe they have focused too hard on 4k/60 to, as you put it, take a step back?

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#98 Gifford38
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@djoffer123 said:

@ProtossRushX: dude you aren’t getting Spider-Man 2 at launch, you are getting an expansion to a PS4 game, that only is exclusive to ps5 because Sony had nothing else...

they have plenty in 2021. miles, grand 7, one more they have not told us yet plus third party exclusives like kena bridge of spirits on day one.. is more than the series x has from first party in 2021.

now add hzd2, ratchet and clank, demon souls, and one more big one they have not told us yet that is dated for nov 2021 release. thing is sony is ready for 2021 were xbox seems it has nothing for 2021 even.

plus they have not showed silent hill.

fact is sony has a more move forward approach were xbox is just gamepass.

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#99 Pedro
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Well, folks wanted the delay and they got the delay. 😮

Now, Xbox Series X is left naked at launch. 🤣

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#100 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Watch_My_6 said:

Incredibly embarrassing.

If they do not close the studio following this, I would be stunned.

Halo 4 - absolute trash

Halo 5 - ok game. Meh Halo game

Halo MCC - most broken game I've ever played. Took over a year to make it playable.

And now infinite can't even make it out in time even with an extensive dev cycle.

They should give Bungie a blank check and beg them to return.

I've been saying this for years. 343 employees must have some dirt on Phil or Satya. There's no other explanation why they continue to get chances.