FTC Vs Microsoft Thread

@Antwan3K: After all the 💩 randy says, it's fun to see him eat crow 🤣

@blaznwiipspman1: Maybe tag dabear as he might have it. I can't tag anyone on my mobile. I know I posted in that thread, so maybe I can find it if I get time later on.

@ghostofgolden: Shitty can mean anything. I’m talking about competency and the standards have definitely been lowered.

You can tag on mobile. You just have to “request desktop website,” and all the normal features become available.

@ghostofgolden: Yeah nah, the writing is so small that it's not worth the effort zooming in on it.

Okay, this has to be the BIGGEST L with this. Oh my god... Kotick is not planning on leaving. MS isn't cleaning up leadership at all.

What a f***ing waste of money.

@nintendoboy16: For sure, it will be terrible if Microsoft keeps him. Although that's him basically wanting to keep his place.

We'll see. But I think maybe MS won't reveal any plans for Activision changes to anyone even at Activision until the inks dry, but who knows.

I think despite what he wants, it'll be a PR problem MS don't need to keep him around. MS can't have that.

@nintendoboy16: Even if he does stay he will have his wings clipped, so he will be basically useless.

"I've committed to Microsoft for as long or as little as they need me for the integration."

It's about continuity and stability. Translation, we need to maintain the stock price so we don't cause a sell off or market fluctuations, which shareholders don't like.

He's done at Activision, no way they'll keep him on other than as a consultant, probably unpaid

@nintendoboy16: Bobby kotic wasn't the one harassing women, at least not recently. It was other workers harassing other female workers. When you run a massive company you can't really oversee every little thing.

I hope MS starts making ActiBlizz games exclusive asap. After what Sony did to FF16, making me wait for the non trash version.

@blaznwiipspman1: Mate, don't make excuses for that douchebag, it's common knowledge what happened.

You're only making yourself look bad. If MS were smart they would get rid of him as soon as the deal is signed off. Or at the very least have him sweeping the floors and nothing else.

Well, looks like Sony IS giving something of theirs to Xbox... that is monopolized (as I keep pointing out).

I admit. Kinda hilarious.

Please tell me you are kidding with the monopoly claim.

@nintendoboy16: Geez everything is a monopoly to you, speaking of when are you going after Nintendo for having a monopoly on the handheld console market?

I am not! Crunchyroll (both the platform AND the company), which also includes Funimation (Dragon Ball and One Piece being their biggest licenses... hell, Funi already had a lot of licenses before they were bought... now you know my theory that Sony could buy someone like Bandai Namco in retaliation?) are owned by Sony and have a hell of a hold on the anime localization history. They even own Aniplex and now RightStufAnime. And a lot of anime enthusiasts cannot STAND them for that (in addition to out of touch criticisms of how localization works, and how Sony screwed WB/Toonami/Adult Swim). I can't stand it either.

You mean the same handheld market that was damaged by mobile gaming and hasn't exactly recovered? Nintendo DID eventually pay the price for it (to the point where even THEY were forced on that market because Wii U was doing so terribly and investors wouldn't STFU). Plus, their competition (Atari with Lynx, SEGA with Game Gear, Sony with PSVita even though PSP was successful) continuously f***ed up every time they tried to compete.

@nintendoboy16: So, you are saying that Sony holds a monopoly in anime because of localization? Am I understandung you correctly?

@nintendoboy16: None of those you mentioned were handheld consoles like the Switch is, that is what I am referring to.

Because of the companies, which includes the biggest of them all (Crunchyroll/Funimation), they own. That's what I'm saying. And that's what makes Game Pass allowing two and a half months of Crunchyroll (Sony owned) subscriptions free, hilarious.

That's interesting. Nintendo was "forced", but the others "continually f***ed up every time they tried to compete".

Sounds a bit like a double standard there. :-S

@HalcyonScarlet: Double standards (and hypocrisy) is one of the traits of being a gaming fanboy, as fanboys like to impose their standards on others, but they almost never impose these same standards on themselves.

PC handhelds are now a thing.

YES they are 😎

I found this funny too, but business is just business. As for crunchy roll, im a subscriber, but the fact that sony charges netflix money for the service is a joke. I pay the discount rate that its worth.

The worst part is as you said, funimation is also owned by sony, so its a true monopoly for anime.

@HalcyonScarlet: Miss the part where I said the Wii U struggled and investors wouldn't shut up about Nintendo needing to be mobile, if not third party? That's what I mean by "forced".

But the "others f***ed up frequently" was about their former hold on the now dead handheld market.

A-HAHAHAHAH! Microsoft critizising other games. Good one.

Like it matters what Microsofts says. I explicity wrote:

Anyone who does a little research can see that.

For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Microsoft_franchises

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sony_Interactive_Entertainment_franchises

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_franchises

"Not even close"

Show me the post where i "blamed Microsoft for Redfall". The main issue was Microsofts statement about the state of the game. They thought the game would be reviewed a lot better! It aligns with their "hands off approach". Or "we don't care about quality and innovation". Their only investment in the game was canceling the PS5 version.

Where's Sony's current gen 10/10? Must be their management. I mean Sony is awesome right, three games last year, two were only 8s. *shrug. Must be the management. Why is there only one game this year from Sony? Must be the management. Damn they SUCK. I mean what happened at the Sony Showcase this year... That management... Right?

What nonsense. Helldivers2 is scheduled for 2023. A Sony game IP for 10 years and anticipated by many. So much for your little "analysis", the usual attempt to narrow down the subject to digestable timeframes and items, trying to block out the greater picture, in order to support your fanboy narrative.

LOL you sound REAL mad here.

So when you think MS praised Sony's games THEN it matters what they say. No consistency. And yes they can criticise others games.

What is the context of showing me how many franchises each has? Half of SIE's franchises are sports or other licences or shit no one cares about or are from defunct studios.

LOL Helldivers 2. It's a 3rd party exclusive game. What are Sony's Studios doing? "Bu bu bu teh management" Yeah, I "did a little research". :-S

And you call that a fanboy narrative which is funny, because I'm just parodying the shit the cows say. HOW did you not see that. Were you so busy foaming at the mouth you missed it. I was literally mocking cow rhetoric. I still am, I'm just using your own cow nonsense against you and it seems cows can dish it out but they can't take it.

The funny things is, I was never involved in your shit arguments. I was just commenting on what you said about MSs business, and since I pulled all of that apart, then you put all your nonsense on me.

That is why I am always serving them.😂

You'll have to teach the ways:

You are the one that taught me that, and it works in Safari on my iPhone. But I can't get it to work in Chrome on my iPhone.

Did Sony buy Arrowhead Game Studios now? Last I heard they are the developers of Helldivers 2, not Sony.

Really?

Tell me again... no wait... you actually never gave an explanation to why the "normalization" was started by Sony 10 years ago, and nobody else but them. Not 20, not 30, not 40 years. Why 10? What happened 10 years ago? Wait... are you saying, Microsofts undeniably worst console, the TV TV TV, the kinecting water cooler, DRM backpaddling, secret sauce, made Microsoft quit hardware sales, cloud power, xtothebone gohome was all Sonys doing?

Palasata said,No matter how comprehensible, no matter how exact i express myself.

Palasats also said,Dealing with you people is like handling a bunch of birthday-retards.

Look at you expressing yourself all comprehensible and shit.

Palasta is incorporating the typical raging Sony hate boy. That's cool, we've been a few months without one of those.

"Did you find this out all by yourself? Conglatulations. Alas. You're doing it again, you always try to narrow the narrative down to your fanboy BS."

That's the cows narrative not mine. 'Only counts when MS/Sony studios do it themselves.'.

Continuing with the cows narrative, putting pen to paper and signing a deal doesn't count as creativity coming from MS/Sony.

You might want to hold a cow meeting and find out what's what before coming back to me, get your ducks in order.

"This in contrast to Microsofts panic acquisitions because they suck at developing games and managing studios."

What panic acquisitions did MS make? Was it 3.4B for bungie, while allowing them to act independently? Glass houses. NO ONE gets the point of that purchase, it's that dumb. MS bought Zenimax and ABK. That, in contrast, is a lot of talent and a lot of ips. Bungie barely even owns any ips. Talk about knee jerk purchases. Yeah MS must have felt owned for all of 5 minutes.

Why in the **** are you now telling me about Xdev. You still don't get it. Same with your frachise thing. If you don't add your context, what do you want me to do with this information?

Dude, you are the one acting special needs. It just looks like you rushed out another BS reply. Your last paragraph is pure fanboyism, it takes into consideration nothing about how the industry works, just your own opinion.

I can't believe you buy the myth that Sony "cultivates" or nurtures studios. ALL they do is leave them alone, don't rush them and give them a big budget. That's it. The rest in nonsense.

He's too busy frothing at the mouth with anger to make sense.

@palasta: You still bitter over me referring to more current behavior versus behaviors over 2 decades ago? 😂 You truly are entertaining with the amount of spinning and raging just to damage control Sony's behavior.

Now look what you did, Microsoft... *keeps an eye on Bandai Namco and Square Enix, even through investments*

@nintendoboy16: this is all sonys fault. They started this nonsense with paid 3rd party exclusives, exclusive content, marketing scam deals. MS just going to war now. I don't blame Sony, if they didn't do it, some other scumbag company would have. Blame capitalism and the current system of patents, trademarks, IP.

Personally I don't see MS doing too much damage to Sony. Since MS is all about multiplats with gamepass, and subscription services. Sony will just have to shift more to their first party games. I trust MS with this more than I do Sony.

I think MS should raise the price and get rid of day 1 for big games like cod and halo. They should be profitable. FTC and other regulators should definitely question MS intentions by blowing so much money without having idea of making that money back. I would question their motives to be honest, nobody is a Saint, we all have ulterior motives.

@nintendoboy16: The video game industry oligopoly is inevitable now. We'll all have to accept it sooner or later.

It's easier for them to excuse Sony and blame MS.

They think that Sony is just doing what Nintendo does, but they're not.

If this was just business, Sony would be like Nintendo and focus on their own 1st party games only, while leaving 3rd party games free. There was no need for Sony to strangle the competition with 3rd party exclusive contracts too. If Nintendo, Sony and MS just focused on their own games, everyone would be doing great business, it would quite literally be a "fair game".

It's interesting that no one points out that Sony wants to strangle MS out of the market. Only difference is, Matt Booty said it in an email for MS. But Sony shows it through their actions.

Eventually when you corner someone, they lash out. MS has quite a lot of money to lash out with.

Maybe this won't impact Sony too much. But I think it's also about making Xbox's businesses more immune to Sony's dirty exclusive contract game. Between MS, Zenimax and ABK, that's a metric ton of ips. So even if Sony gets big game exclusives here or there, interest won't drop for Xbox services in the future. So I think in that way it may even the playing field.

Before, SFV, and all these Final Fantasy games and whatever other deals Sony had, were big blows to Xboxs business. But now Xbox also has all these other ips, I don't see how even these big game deals can effect Xbox as badly in the future. Sure, you're going to buy PS to play Final Fantasy for example, but you're going to have to come back if you want games like Doom, Elder Scrolls and whatever else. That's what I think MS is trying to do.

The real question here is if you're ready to be drafted to fight in the console wars.

@lebanese_boy: Issue is: no one should. If Disney is harped on for it.

Funny how Phil claims how he hates the console wars, yet this incident proves that is as much a lie like anything the three princes of lies (Peter, Randy, Todd) in the games industry would say.

@nintendoboy16: I mean sure, we shouldn't. But we'll have to whether we like it or not. At the end of the day our opinion is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The oligopoly is inevitable, so much that I was confident from day 1 that the Microsoft deal was going to go through.

Also **** Disney.

Oh look! My MAIN problem with this. With any company. Including Sony. Including Nintendo. Just don't bring those two up... in a thread about Microsoft, doesn't mean I'm white knighting this when anyone else does it. Why do you think I bring up Sony and their hold on the anime localization industry (Crunchyroll)?

Microsoft is an abuser of this. And all I see was cheerleading to "own Sony", and look at Sony's plan now. They're gonna retaliate. And there will be loads of hypocrisy over this. We're already seeing "but that's different" excuses over Tencent being top investor of Techland recently.

Yeayeayea. Answer the request, stop trying to weasel your way out.

As a reminder:

Over two decades ago you say. What do we have here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Xbox_360-only_games

The following 200 pages are in this category, out of approximately 212 total.

212

Among those 212 games:

Ace_Combat_6:_Fires_of_Liberation, 3rd party, non MS IP

Dance Dance Revolution, 3rd party, non MS IP

Dead Or Alive 4, 3d party, non MS IP

Dead Or Alive Extreme 2, 3rd party, non MS IP

Gear Of War 1, 2, 3, 3rd party, non MS IP till 2014

Naruto: Rise of a Ninja, -"-

Dead Rising, 3rd party, 7th gen 360 exclusive

three Bomberman games, 3rd party, non MS IP

FIFA: Road to FIFA World Cup ...

Saints Row, 3rd party, non MS IP

Timed exclusives like Mass Effect and Oblivion not included.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_3-only_games

The following 181 pages are in this category, out of 181 total.

Tell me again, in what way did Sony misbehave in comparison to the behavior both did plenty of in the previous generation. Why is it that Microsoft didn't "behave" the same way in 8th gen as in the generation before, unable to go en par with Sony.

Where is that list of 200 games Sony allegedly moneyhatted. The list certainly will not include Death Stranding, or SFV, or Helldivers, or Spiderman, or Bloodborne, or NMS...

Take your time, i'm sure your emotional support group is here for you, i have utmost confidence that you will give me a satisfying answer this time.

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The effects of the console war are real,this Sony Troopers posts are obviously signs they suffer from xbox studios winning the war,years defending his beloved gaming machine lie in tatters.spare a thought for the poor souls searching for the starfield pre load and the terrible reality their biggest and best selling game is made by their enemy